Looks like Dell is getting a little Mac envy.

[SuperSnake2012]

New Dell XPS M2010 starting at $4000. (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m2010?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=design#tabtop)

I'll state the obvious by saying that Dell is overpricing these extremely and they are ripping off the iMac. :rolleyes:

The specs are nearly identical to the 20" iMac besides the graphics (Mobility X1600 vs. Mobility X1800) but this costs 2.5x as much. :eek:

[mode]

The remote accessory looks ugly.

It's not a very bad-looking package, but for the hardware its way too expensive, I think.

[FleurDuMal]

New Dell XPS M2010 starting at $4000. (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m2010?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=design#tabtop)

I'll state the obvious by saying that Dell is overpricing these extremely and they are ripping off the iMac. :rolleyes:

The specs are nearly identical to the 20" iMac besides the graphics (Mobility X1600 vs. Mobility X1800) but this costs 2.5x as much. :eek:

It really is about time Dell cut its losses and concentrated on their lovely monitors ;)

*looks dewy-eyed at his 24" monitor*

[MovieCutter]

I wonder if it "moos"

[Copland]

Yes, the machines are very similar, except:
The Dell is much less good looking.

Also, what's the point of having a folding screen if the machine isn't a laptop? I think Dell is trying to copy the iMac without blatantly copying the design.

[TsuaSai]

It really is about time Dell cut its losses and concentrated on their lovely monitors ;)

*looks dewy-eyed at his 24" monitor*

no joke, speaking of which my new dell monitor should be here monday :D

[FleurDuMal]

I wonder if it "moos"

If it did, Apple would probably sue for copyright infringment.

Maybe Dell seeks to tap into a wider market by concentrating on other farmyard animals?

[Kernow]

I don't like the look of this at all - particularly the whole foldaway to a briefcase thing. Either you want a laptop or you want a desktop - this seems like some horrible hybrid.

[mattcube64]

If it did, Apple would probably sue for copyright infringment.

Maybe Dell seeks to tap into a wider market by concentrating on other farmyard animals?

Maybe it'll bark? :eek:

[andiwm2003]

.............................Also, what's the point of having a folding screen if the machine isn't a laptop? .............................

i thought exactly the same. it's not a real all in one machine either because the base is separated from the monitor. somehow more like a G4 imac. the folding screen make no sense and the base wastes desk space. not a good concept and way too expensive.

[FleurDuMal]

Maybe it'll bark? :eek:

Hope not. That'd force many Dell owners into a tough situation as to which stays: the cat or the Dell.

[Philberttheduck]

I looked at this on Engadget and immidately laughed out loud. They're just desperate now.. I mean, before the LCDs, the Retail Stores, then the "accidental" Mac OS Drivers, now the wannabe iMac killer? Will I be surprised if they create a Dell Mini? This is hillarious and low..

4 thousand BUCKS!? WTF!?

[kildraik]

I personally think that the "Sophisticated Briefcase" look is rather ugly, and should at least have regular hinges. It just might cut the cost down $1000.;)

[macsrockmysocks]

That thing is so fugly and way overpriced:eek: ....... Who in the world would buy that?

[milozauckerman]

Didn't they try this once before?

I could swear I remember an all-in-one 'iMac killer' from them around the time the G5 iMacs debuted.

[gloss]

Honestly, I think it's a nifty machine, and I can see gamers shelling out the money for one. It's essentially a powerful gaming desktop with the option of portability, which, if you attend as many LAN parties as some people do, is very handy. Also, the expandability far outstrips the iMac.

People shouldn't assume that every all-in-one is targeting Apple. It's a high-end gaming rig, and they're not even trying to say otherwise.

[mkrishnan]

More power to them (redux!). I think it's a cute concept (well, I think the keyboard is atrocious, but the rest is reasonably cute). Yes, it's probably overpriced. But then again, who pays list for anything at Dell anyways? :rolleyes: It's good to see them actually try to make something that's not exactly like everything else on the market for their XPS line... so far their XPS hardware has smacked of rebadging in the automotive industry.... :(

[Kingsly]

New Dell XPS M2010 starting at $4000.
They're joking, right?
Am I right?
Anyone?

[imacintel]

Remember how the eMachines eOne and it was similar to the iMac G3 and how apple sued eMachines....:rolleyes:

[FragTek]

I think this is a pretty ridiculous machine to be honest. And the price tag, omfgwtfbbq???? How in the hell is that machine worth $4000? Let's be realistic now, that's just completely outrageous. I guess Dell fanboys will buy anything *sigh*

The design and styling of the unit itself seems pretty retarded. It's a cross between a desktop and a laptop which probably weighs 20 lbs. Certainly not portable enough to take with you everywhere like you could with a high end laptop that you could buy for at least $1000 less. I can't wait to see the first person trying to set one of these up on a plane flight, trying to figure out how to fit it on to his little folding table overflowing in to the people next to him.

Wow... this has got to be Dell's worst invention ever. Gotta respect the iSight rip-off, rofl.

[California]

There is something so "80's geek-tech" about Dell. Maybe it's the black. Maybe it's the fact you know it'll be ready for the garbage in a few years. It's not that it's ugly, it is just that Dell's designers don't understand design or the history of industrial design. At Apple, the guys understand and integrate.

[Eidorian]

Sony made one too. :rolleyes:

[Kingsly]

Sony made one too. :rolleyes:
I think I just Threw up a little in my mouth™

[m-dogg]

Sony made one too. :rolleyes:

Well...I guess the Dell is nicer looking than the Sony...

[Eidorian]

It comes with a TV-tuner but at $1999 and with a lower resolution LCD...

Yes, the iMac was/is cheaper.

[YS2003]

That was an ugly looking PC. Is it a rule that the run of the mills PC makers have to churn out un-attractive looking hardware? For Windows machines, I only find certain SONY notebook and Panasonic Toughbook models are attractive enough for my personal purchase.

[CoMpX]

Sony made one too. :rolleyes:

OMG this thing looks like its a foot thick and about 70lbs. :rolleyes: :eek:

[azzurri000]

it sort of reminds me of the iBook g3 clamshell due to the handle...

[Philberttheduck]

The damn dell is 40 pounds. LAN PARTY MY ASS

[mkrishnan]

The damn dell is 40 pounds. LAN PARTY MY ASS

It comes with a copy of Abs for Geeks™. :D

[DISCOMUNICATION]

Pretty stupid. Glad I made the switch to the real thing, 17" iMac 250GB hdd, 1GB ram. It should be arriving Saturday. Can't wait :D !

[CaptainCaveMann]

New Dell XPS M2010 starting at $4000. (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m2010?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=design#tabtop)

I'll state the obvious by saying that Dell is overpricing these extremely and they are ripping off the iMac. :rolleyes:

The specs are nearly identical to the 20" iMac besides the graphics (Mobility X1600 vs. Mobility X1800) but this costs 2.5x as much. :eek:

Great looking machine, but it still runs windows. :rolleyes:

[Aperture]

I can't believe how unbelievably overpriced that Dell is. Who would pay $4000 for a desktop that looks like a fake laptop. If you can't even easily move it, why would you even WANT to close the screen?? Can anyone post a link to the Sony one? I was looking at Sony's site and can't seem to find it. It is extremely ugly, I just want to check out the specs. Those are so clearly copying the iMac (especially the Sony).:eek:

[bobdgil]

This must be some kind of belated April Fool's joke by Dell... It doesn't even seem like they are letting you buy one... When you click customize it lets you select a warranty. After that they let you customize your... XPS 400? What happened to the XPS M2010? What a sick, sick joke...

[Mac_Freak]

Here is Dell's philosophy/resoning (http://news.com.com/1606-2-6078647.html?part=rss&tag=6078647&subj=news) behind this hideous thing, thanks to guys at news.com. :D

[Xeem]

Remember how the eMachines eOne and it was similar to the iMac G3 and how apple sued eMachines....:rolleyes:

Yeah, but the eMachine was so similar to the iMac that my friends couldn't tell me which was which when I put a G3 iMac down next it. Nobody should mistake this thing for an iMac.

[Pistol Pete]

I wonder if it "moos"

haha to the comment...

and hahahahhahahhahahhaha to that crap that runs xp.

if dell was a person. i would love to punch them in the neck :)

[BurtonCCC]

Let's take a few quotes from the news.com article and extend them to more realistic terms:

"You can watch a DVD on a beautiful 20-inch screen, but then take that device to the office to do a presentation. You can play the latest video game, while recording TV and streaming live video. You can chat with friends while using video while riding the train," Parra said. "The PC is now the personal entertainment engine, until the piece of garbage that is Windows XP gives you the blue screen of death in about five minutes and renders the computer completely useless in a year or two."

"The design was inspired by jet engines, allowing for airflow cooling so that hard drives stay quiet and components stay cool, and we tried to mimic the sheer size of jet engines as well," Gruzen said.

Parra was careful to emphasize that service would be a large part of the product line, and that those on the other end of the phone line would be tenured, trained gamers who understand the needs of other gamers, but also don't speak English.

"The PC has evolved from a productivity platform into a digital entertainment platform, said Gruzen. "These products epitomize that space, while taking up every inch of space on your desk. Dell intends to be on the cutting edge here, now and into the future."

The customizable XPS 700 is also immediately available to order, but takes approximately 18 days for customization build, making it available no earlier than June 27. At least the Dell fans will get something while waiting another year for Windows Vista to come out.

Daniel.

[BurtonCCC]

if dell was a person. i would love to punch them in the neck :)
I think I'd prefer to stab them in the jaw.

I actually used that line at my office tonight. We had to introduce ourselves and say something that people find strange about you. I proceeded to say, "I love Apple computers. If you even say Windows XP, I will stab you in the jaw." Needless to say, we have a very laid-back work environment.

Daniel.

[Nate4747]

Blatant concept rip-off or not, that thing is expensive! It's not really targeting the average consumers price point... which is the idea behind the iMac.

What were they thinking?

[BurtonCCC]

What were they thinking?
It's Dell. They weren't.

Daniel.

[DrFrankTM]

The damn dell is 40 pounds. LAN PARTY MY ASS

Are you serious or are you just making fun of the concept? I wouldn't ever pay 4000$ for that kind of machine, but at the same time, I think it's an interesting concept. If you work hours and hours on your computer every day, I think a big screen is neat. And being able to just fold and go is a big plus too.

You can get an iLugger for the iMac, but as I found out the hard way, some airlines enforce the weight limit very strictly, so I couldn't take my beloved 20-inch iMac with me to South Korea. IF - and I have no clue whether it's the case or not - the Dell weighs under the 10kg limit for carry-on luggage, then it's a decent fit for a certain class of people who want a very mobile desktop. I can toss my new Mini in my backpack, but the Dell 2405FPW screen I got for it will have to be shipped whenever I move, which is slightly annoying (and costs some $ too - something mobile workers would consider).

I would love to see a similar machine with a higher screen resolution though. I think Dell makes a 17-inch laptop with a 1920x1200 screen. (They do, right?) Why can't I get that same resolution on a 20-inch?!? The new Dell isn't a perfect machine, but it's a great concept... for some people.

Slightly off-topic, but I wish Apple offered a 20-inch iMac with a 1920x1200 screen. That'd be pretty cool!

[SuperSnake2012]

Are you serious or are you just making fun of the concept? I wouldn't ever pay 4000$ for that kind of machine, but at the same time, I think it's an interesting concept. If you work hours and hours on your computer every day, I think a big screen is neat. And being able to just fold and go is a big plus too.

You can get an iLugger for the iMac, but as I found out the hard way, some airlines enforce the weight limit very strictly, so I couldn't take my beloved 20-inch iMac with me to South Korea. IF - and I have no clue whether it's the case or not - the Dell weighs under the 10kg limit for carry-on luggage, then it's a decent fit for a certain class of people who want a very mobile desktop. I can toss my new Mini in my backpack, but the Dell 2405FPW screen I got for it will have to be shipped whenever I move, which is slightly annoying (and costs some $ too - something mobile workers would consider).

I would love to see a similar machine with a higher screen resolution though. I think Dell makes a 17-inch laptop with a 1920x1200 screen. (They do, right?) Why can't I get that same resolution on a 20-inch?!? The new Dell isn't a perfect machine, but it's a great concept... for some people.

Slightly off-topic, but I wish Apple offered a 20-inch iMac with a 1920x1200 screen. That'd be pretty cool!

PC companies love to pack dense screens into small computers. You probably won't see these until Leopard and the resolution independent OS thingy.

[stunna]

Thats a lan partyers dream computer.

[ModestPenguin]

Okay, It costs more. It's moderately fugly. But It's dell what did we expect.
Personally I was thinking, eh, could be worse, then I realize.

1. No DL Superdrive. Does not burn DL DVDs, not that anyone really does that cause its ridiculously expensive but still...cheap ass dell...

2. Max HDD space is 240gb over 2 HDD....wtf dell....cheap asses

Edit: 3. WOAH...are they seriously marketing that as a portable....no...no way....an iMac with a handle is more of a portable than that....it doesnt have a spec for weight that I can find....means that it actually weighs more than the country of Japan.

[Jiddick ExRex]

At least Dell had the balls to put in an x1800 card in it. Something I would very much love to see in the iMac!

And I think it looks nice, but for 4000 it's a no-go.

[wako]

Sony made one too. :rolleyes:




sony actually made similar things like this way before the iMac came to be what it is today. I think they came up with the concept like 5. I remember playing with it at CompUSA :)

[FragTek]

Thats a lan partyers dream computer.
I hope you're joking... It's FOURTY pounds!!!

[ImNoSuperMan]

Not really a bad looking design (considering it`s coming from Dell. Not Apple:p ) But it`s priced 4000$ WTF. Price it at 2500 and it might just sell. The market needs variety. Not everyone can be satisfied with a White iMac(But I`ll be definitely:D )

But it`s good to see that atleast Dell is trying something. If you forget bout the price than the Machine is not that bad at all. There cant be any real harm in incresed competetion. If they try and somehow(just dont know how though) get an iMac Killer. It`d mean we,apple users, will definitely get an even better iMac which`ll blow away anything anyone else is offering:D

[Project]

Um, this is nothing like an iMac, both in design and in concept. What are you people talking about?

[FragTek]

Not really a bad looking design (considering it`s coming from Dell. Not Apple:p ) But it`s priced 4000$ WTF. Price it at 2500 and it might just sell. The market needs variety. Not everyone can be satisfied with a White iMac(But I`ll be definitely:D )

But it`s good to see that atleast Dell is trying something. If you forget bout the price than the Machine is not that bad at all. There cant be any real harm in incresed competetion. If they try and somehow(just dont know how though) get an iMac Killer. It`d mean we,apple users, will definitely get an even better iMac which`ll blow away anything anyone else is offering:D
Revenge of the reverse ' key! lol Sorry had to do it :p

[idkfa]

I don't go to LAN parties....but I cannot see someone paying this much for this thing.

If I was a LAN gamer, I would buy a Power Mac with the money, suffer with fewer games, and lug it to the party... :p

[gloss]

I hope you're joking... It's FOURTY pounds!!!

18 pounds. That's 3 pounds more than Alienware's gaming notebook.

[BurtonCCC]

I like where they actually say "A Front Row Seat" on the page. Sounds familiar. Where have I heard "Front Row" before?

Daniel.

[gloss]

I like where they actually say "A Front Row Seat" on the page. Sounds familiar. Where have I heard "Front Row" before?

Daniel.

Possibly if you've ever been in a theater.

Apple didn't invent the phrase, you know.

[Abstract]

Thats a lan partyers dream computer.

If you buy a 17" MBP, and you end up a computer that has:

- smaller screen, but same resolution
- a larger HD size (17" MBP has a 120GB, the Dell only comes with 80 GB)
- slightly worse video card
- $1200 more money saved in the bank
- faster CPU (2.16 GHz Core Duo rather than Dell's 1.83 GHz)
- 8x Double-Layer DVD-RW (the Dell's isn't double layer)

but oh wait....... it's 6.8 lbs rather than the Dell's 18.3 lbs!!! Including the AC adapter "brick", the Dell comes in at 20.8 lbs.


So really, what benefits are there for LAN parties if you were to bring that Dell along? It's slower, and it's bigger. Oh, and the keyboard is pretty much wireless, and who wants to play games using a wireless keyboard?

The design is nice, but overall, it does suck and was a bad idea. Even if this Dell was the same price as a 17" MBP, I'd still take the 17" MBP because of the weight and gain in CPU speed and HD size.

The remote is cool though. Something like that would be a good accessory to the Airport Express. :)

[stunna]

I hope you're joking... It's FOURTY pounds!!!

I"m dead serious
my monitor alone is 45 pounds
having the power of a PC and having that portablity is a lan partiers dream.

[stunna]

If you buy a 17" MBP, and you end up a computer that has:

- smaller screen, but same resolution
- a larger HD size (17" MBP has a 120GB, the Dell only comes with 80 GB)
- slightly worse video card
- $1200 more money saved in the bank
- faster CPU (2.16 GHz Core Duo rather than Dell's 1.83 GHz)
- 8x Double-Layer DVD-RW (the Dell's isn't double layer)

but oh wait....... it's 6.8 lbs rather than the Dell's 18.3 lbs!!! Including the AC adapter "brick", the Dell comes in at 20.8 lbs.


So really, what benefits are there for LAN parties if you were to bring that Dell along? It's slower, and it's bigger. Oh, and the keyboard is pretty much wireless, and who wants to play games using a wireless keyboard?

The design is nice, but overall, it does suck and was a bad idea. Even if this Dell was the same price as a 17" MBP, I'd still take the 17" MBP because of the weight and gain in CPU speed and HD size.

The remote is cool though. Something like that would be a good accessory to the Airport Express. :)
It also has a 2.1ghz duo core
Its a faster gaming machine
It also has the ability for a raid config and 7.1 surround sound
I can see this being sold as a entertainment/ gaming / portable system

[Cloudgazer]

It also has a 2.1ghz duo core
Its a faster gaming machine
It also has the ability for a raid config and 7.1 surround sound
I can see this being sold as a entertainment/ gaming / portable system

Is there even such a thing? entertainment/gaming/portable???

I don't think they've been able to define a target market.
entertainment systems are not supposed to be portable. Traditionally neither are gaming systems (although that is changing).

I think they tried to make it all things for all people.... and like they say "you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time"

It might be nice machine, but Dell is gonna have trouble selling it, especially at that price.

I'm also a bit dubious about this:
In just seconds, your XPS M2010 turns from a stylish and portable briefcase with a leather-like back, gloss accents, and lines and curves like a fine sports car, into a complete entertainment center

Leather like? sounds cheap!
Gamers don't want a stylish corporate looking briefcase.
And business people ain't gonna lug that monster around, especially if it isn't real leather.

EDIT: it may only weigh 20pounds, but what about the 7.1 speakers you gotta take with you... might need a moving truck.

[FragTek]

I"m dead serious
my monitor alone is 45 pounds
having the power of a PC and having that portablity is a lan partiers dream.
MBP 17" does the trick for me :p hehe

I suppose I can see what you're getting at though. But would you spend $4000 on one? ;)

[jdechko]

Yeah, I don't really see how that can be considered a gamers wet dream. I mean, sure its got a really sweet video card in there (for now). But is it upgradable (something most hardcore gamers would demand)? Even if it is, it's still really expensive for what you get. The CoreDuo 1.83 is practically a joke on this system. And what about all the PC people who can build a/an (arguably) better system for much cheaper. I think the design is ugly, and I'd never buy one. At a $4000 price point, I'd go for a quad with a 20" ACD and be much happier.

[plinden]

I hope you're joking... It's FOURTY pounds!!!
It's 18.3lbs or more depending on how you configure it.

It's hard to find the weight, but it's listed in the Notebook comparisons (http://www.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/notebooks?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs) (well, it's an all-in-one that folds up, so I suppose it is a notebook)

I don't have any love for Dell, but let's not add our own FUD.

[DrFrankTM]

I hope you're joking... It's FOURTY pounds!!!

Where did you get that info??? I couldn't find any mention of the weight anywhere...

[DrFrankTM]

18 pounds. That's 3 pounds more than Alienware's gaming notebook.

Ok. 18 pounds sounds much more like it. You can keep it with you on the plane then. That's something rather cool, I think, but then again, as I said previously, I'd like to have a higher resolution on the screen if I'm carrying such a huge thing around (or else I'd just go with a laptop).

[odedia]

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m2010?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

Ofcourse i wouldn't mind a better design too, but the idea of being able to move around a 20" iMac around the house (and rarely out of the house) sounds cool to me.

[treblah]

17in MBP?

[odedia]

Na... this has a 20" display, ATI x1800, 2 Hard drives, 7.1 speaker system, full size, reall keyboard, and a display that is at the eyes level. The MBP is great (and will be greater when it will be in normal operating tempartures), but this one is more of a desktop than a laptop, but has "portable" possibilities.

[japanime]

Na... this has a 20" display, ATI x1800, 2 Hard drives, 7.1 speaker system, full size, reall keyboard, and a display that is at the eyes level. The MBP is great (and will be greater when it will be in normal operating tempartures), but this one is more of a desktop than a laptop, but has "portable" possibilities.

And it runs XPee! All right! ;)

[uaaerospace]

And it runs XPee! All right! ;)

And costs $3500 ????


There is already another thread on this topic (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=205446&highlight=M2010). Please use it instead.

[jsw]

Threads merged....

[DCBass]

I find it funny that the desktop background on that machine features a mean-looking Panther.

Surely they jest.

This must be what happens when marketers just totally give up at their job. Personally, I'd never buy a computer that looks like a lawn chair for 4-year olds.

-DCBass

[Josias]

Dude, that is an iMac wannabe!:mad: 3 times the price of an iMac, slightly better graphics, less storage capability (500 vs. 240), same processor, it may hold up to 4 GB instead of 2, but that doubles the price...:p Though it has a battery, this is not a laptop. The keyboard is external.:D

[treblah]

Na... this has a 20" display, ATI x1800, 2 Hard drives, 7.1 speaker system, full size, reall keyboard, and a display that is at the eyes level. The MBP is great (and will be greater when it will be in normal operating tempartures), but this one is more of a desktop than a laptop, but has "portable" possibilities.

The Dell with 2.16 Core Duo, 2 7200RPM 100GB Drives, 1GB RAM (2x512MB), and HD Audio = $4,275.

17in MBP with 2.16 Core Duo, 1 7200RPM 100GB Drive, 1GB RAM (1x1GB) = $2,799.

That leaves you $1,476 to buy a Dell 20.1 LCD ($415), 100GB 7200RPM HD (~$100), Apple Bluetooth KB + Mouse ($118) and 7.1 System ($200) which only comes out to $833 saving you over $600! ;) :D

[bbrosemer]

Gateway ...LOL... has been making a all in one computer for I think 2 years now and it still looks like puke. However Dell does make lovely monitors.... and it is working great right now with my MBP :p

[sunfast]

Yuk. That dell looks nasty

[tristan]

Makes no sense to me - look at the desktop real estate it takes up. Might as well have an old CRT monitor.

[Collin973]

no joke, speaking of which my new dell monitor should be here monday :D

I love my 20" Dell FP. It's beautiful!!! Beats the 17" Old school flat I had before that (a dell as well) and before that a dell 17" CRT.

[w_parietti22]

BLEK! thats ugly! that slot load optical drive is really cool though. :rolleyes:

The funny thing is is that they cant call it a notebook... they call it a briefcase. :rolleyes:

[FragTek]

Where did you get that info??? I couldn't find any mention of the weight anywhere...

Some chode earlier in the thread mentioned it was 40lbs and sounded pretty serious so I went with it :p

[aricher]

I think I'd prefer to stab them in the jaw.

I've always been a fan of a punch to the back of the head. They never see it coming.