View Full Version : Even worse than lack of 3G, the phone is too large...
The new member
Jan 22, 2007, 04:22 PM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
adrianblaine
Jan 22, 2007, 04:26 PM
I wouldn't care about the size. That screen is really nice. I would just use the blue tooth headset all the time, then it doesn't really matter as much how big the phone is.
I will say though that Apple is going to have to make a "simpler" consumer phone though. I see an iPhone Nano on the horizon...
psychofreak
Jan 22, 2007, 04:34 PM
I agree to an extent...
I believe that apple shoud release an iPhone mini along with the regular iPhone, at a more normal size...
NewSc2
Jan 22, 2007, 04:34 PM
It doesn't look that much bigger than a Razr. I've seen comparison shots. Don't get me wrong, it's quite obviously bigger than a Razr, but just by like 1cm-2cm on each side.
Most smart phones (Treo, etc.) look pretty big too. Especially with their stupid antenna...
The new member
Jan 22, 2007, 04:36 PM
I agree to an extent...
I believe that apple shoud release an iPhone mini along with the regular iPhone, at a more normal size...
I hope too! Cannot put such a brick in my trousers. Especially in summer..
dpaanlka
Jan 22, 2007, 04:36 PM
Us Americans tend to love large things.
The new member
Jan 22, 2007, 04:44 PM
Us Americans tend to love large things.
This is why mobile phone market is quite different in Europe. We do prefer small phones. Here in Europe we have 3G network in every countries since 2 years and even our 3G phones are small. iPhone has a too large form factor for our customer requirements.
Mr. Anderson
Jan 22, 2007, 04:51 PM
But its not just a phone. I think as a first offering its quite cool, but if you look at the changes in the iPod since its first version its much smaller/thinner/etc.
Give it some time and it will be even better. The thing is, I wouldn't want it much smaller since you want to have a big screen - there has to be a trade off at some point.
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Applespider
Jan 22, 2007, 04:52 PM
This is why mobile phone market is quite different in Europe. We do prefer small phones. Here in Europe we have 3G network in every countries since 2 years and even our 3G phones are small. iPhone has a too large form factor for our customer requirements.
Rubbish - 3G is only really starting to come into its own. I pick up a new phone every year and my N73 is the first one where I've bothered getting a 3G handset or card and it was an afterthought. There's still not enough compelling content and the networks (aside from T-mobile) need to sort out their data rates. In all honesty, until very recently, it was 3G handsets which were too big to be attractive for the features they offered.
I'm in Europe and the problem with the P800/P900 (which I owned) was that it was bulky. The iPhone isn't. It's thin and that's the difference - it's also probably less likely to crash regularly which is what narked me with my p800. Looking at my current N73 and the iPhone pictures side by side, the iPhone looks far more sleek and pocketable.
RichP
Jan 22, 2007, 05:01 PM
Thats the thing that bothers me about the nokia phones (E61 excluded) is that they are THICK phones. I had a Moto Razr, and now I am using a Samsung Blackjack SGH-i607 (112 X 58 X 13 mm; although its more like 11mm or so thick, because the 13 is from a small camera protrusion on the back). It is roughly the same size as the iphone. I often carry my phone in front jeans pocket, and can say that there is little difference between the Blackjack and the Razr, in terms of "pocketability" However, the Nokias were too thick to pocket, even though their length and width is less.
I think the size is about perfect. Honestly, its smaller than you think.
The new member
Jan 22, 2007, 05:02 PM
Rubbish - 3G is only really starting to come into its own. I pick up a new phone every year and my N73 is the first one where I've bothered getting a 3G handset or card and it was an afterthought. There's still not enough compelling content and the networks (aside from T-mobile) need to sort out their data rates. In all honesty, until very recently, it was 3G handsets which were too big to be attractive for the features they offered.
I'm in Europe and the problem with the P800/P900 (which I owned) was that it was bulky. The iPhone isn't. It's thin and that's the difference - it's also probably less likely to crash regularly which is what narked me with my p800. Looking at my current N73 and the iPhone pictures side by side, the iPhone looks far more sleek and pocketable.
I live in France and we have 3G network since Q4 2005. In UK and Italy since 2003. So what?
BTW I confirm what a friend (who is working for a phone retailler) told me: iPhone is too large :(
As a proof, people don't want to walk in the street with a 30Gb iPod because the device is too large. They do prefer iPod nano so far. And if you consider the iPhone even bigger than a 30Gb iPod... so.
Rodimus Prime
Jan 22, 2007, 05:06 PM
lol finally something we can complain about that can not be debated to much.
I had not though about it much but the size of the iPhone is a HUGE turn off for me.
The iPhone is 0.4 inches longer than the 30gig iPhone and it is .03 in more in dept. Same width and weight (2.4in and 4.8 oz) all specs yank from apple website.
For me that is just 2 big for something I like to carry in my pocket. Hell I do not like carrying my iPod around in my pocket because it is a little on the heavy side and it is 2 big. I like the smaller cell phones. My current cell phone is 3.2 x 1.8 x 0.9 and 3.3 oz. For me that is a good size. All measurement when the phone is closed are pretty small. That is a huge reason why I like flip phones is they are much more compacted when not in used.
For people thinking about the iPhone think about where you put your current cell phone (for most guys that is your pocket) and instead of that being in imagine always carrying around your iPod. It be quite a bit heavier and it will be a lot larger in size than what most people currently have.
I really do think a lot of people will be turn off by the size of the phone because it is little large to be among the items people almost always take with them (keys, wallet, cell phone) and any of those 3 getting bulky to me would drive me nuts.
Applespider
Jan 22, 2007, 05:08 PM
As a proof, people don't want to walk in the street with a 30Gb iPod because the device is too large. They do prefer iPod nano so far. And if you consider the iPhone even bigger than a 30Gb iPod... so.
A mate in a phone shop and a pal who doesn't want to carry an iPod isn't proof. It's your opinion and not fact.
Most people buy a Nano rather than a full-size iPod because it's cheaper and because they don't have 30GB of music to fill it up - there are several reports which suggest that the average person has less than 500 songs on their MP3 players. In Europe, there's also a lack of video content so why bother unless you're tech-savvy enough to encode your own.
So... if you think it's too big, then don't buy one. I suspect that more people will be put off by the pricing/network than the size. And, remember, that there are 9 months before this will appear in Europe - that's enough time for 3G to appear in a second revision for Europe and Asia.
clevin
Jan 22, 2007, 05:12 PM
well, ppl, wait...
I know negative things will float to the surface when ppl have hands on it. But u guys at least wait until it comes out. large or not, are subjective. wait and see.
Rodimus Prime
Jan 22, 2007, 05:23 PM
A mate in a phone shop and a pal who doesn't want to carry an iPod isn't proof. It's your opinion and not fact.
Most people buy a Nano rather than a full-size iPod because it's cheaper and because they don't have 30GB of music to fill it up - there are several reports which suggest that the average person has less than 500 songs on their MP3 players. In Europe, there's also a lack of video content so why bother unless you're tech-savvy enough to encode your own.
So... if you think it's too big, then don't buy one. I suspect that more people will be put off by the pricing/network than the size. And, remember, that there are 9 months before this will appear in Europe - that's enough time for 3G to appear in a second revision for Europe and Asia.
not exactly. I do not like carrier around my iPod in my pocket because it is to large and heavy for it. I like my iPod but it just not an object I carry with me every where I go because it is a little large to be a daily object like that. it ok to carry it around some time but simple truth of the matter is the iPod is a little large for people to want to carrier with them everywhere.
My brother and sister are the same way. One reason the Mini and the nano are doing/did so well is because they where smaller and lighter. They where smalled enough to be an object that is carried in the pockets for a lot of stuff. Light enough to go running and work out in. Smaller cell phones are ok for running in because they are small in size.
A lot of people do not like the current smart phones on the market because they are 2 big in size. That is one huge reason why I do not know a smart phone. they are just to big.
if you want some more concrete proof to work with. Look at how well small cells phones have historically sold. Even when where more expensive and had less features. People like the small cell phones because they are small. the size of the iPhone will be a huge turn off for a lot of people.
Passante
Jan 22, 2007, 05:48 PM
People don't feed the trolls.
Project
Jan 22, 2007, 06:15 PM
Yeah its big compared to small form factor phones, but at the same time it will be replacing the iPod in my pocket, which I ALWAYS carry around.
mrkramer
Jan 22, 2007, 07:04 PM
Have any of the people that are complaining about the size of the phone actually seen it in person?
SMM
Jan 22, 2007, 07:16 PM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
take a hike troll
Rodimus Prime
Jan 22, 2007, 07:17 PM
Have any of the people that are complaining about the size of the phone actually seen it in person?
a lot of us really do not have 2. I for example have a really good size comparison sitting right next to me on my desk and that happens to be my iPod.
And for me my iPod is to large for an object I would take with me almost everyone. I am 100% sure an object the size of the iPhone I would dislike even more. Any one who is like me in that case would know that this phone is 2 large for them.
Top it off the iPhone is to wide for my to comfortably use it as a phone and that much I can tell just off my iPod. I can easly translate an object that almost the same size and weight as the ipod. the only difference between the 2 is the iPhone is 0.4 inches longer than the 30gig iPod.
From that any one who owns an iPod can easily get a good feel for what they would think of the iPhone. try holding it your hand and see how it would feel holding it next to your head. it is almost the exact same the size and weight and close enough for an good comparison.
and from the iPod test I can tell you that it is just way to large for my taste.
phuong
Jan 22, 2007, 07:44 PM
like i said in the other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=270421&page=2), i'll consider the iPhone once they release the nano version of it. i dont mind some features that only work better on larger screens being stripped off.
cellphones, that's probably the only thing a man don't want it big!
Felldownthewell
Jan 22, 2007, 07:47 PM
take a hike troll
People don't feed the trolls.
Hey, be nice.
I'd much rather argue/discuss size/network/whatever than sit around and post multiple bulletins about how great all apple products are.
Anyway, I think that size is totally in the eye of the beholder (cue lube joke).
There are people who love 17in MBPs and those who buy 12 inchers because they could never carry around anything bigger. Again, there are those who use treos and carry them everywhere, and there are those in the RAZR and BlackJack camp who only like smaller phones.
However, there are two distinct advantages and disadvantages here. Small size gets you great pocketability but little in the way of features- Just try comparing a RAZR and a Treo. The bigger phones give you great features but are huge. I think the iPhone struck a nice balance by giving great features, a big screen, and tackling size in the most important part- the thickness.
In the end, this is all going to be up to the end consumer. For you, the iPhone may be a monster- and accordingly, you won't buy it. For some, especially those coming from BlackBerries and Treos, this is a device with all the features they need and half the weight and thickness- and so they will buy it. As with any product, there are those who will love it and those who will hate it, and nothing you can say will convince the other camp.
MisterMe
Jan 22, 2007, 10:31 PM
It doesn't look that much bigger than a Razr. I've seen comparison shots. ...You don't have to guess. The iPhone's physical dimensions are available here (http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html) for all to see. Its dimensions are 4.5" x 2.4" x .46." When folded, the MOTORAZR™ (http://www.store.motorola.com/mot/en/US/adirect/motorola?cmd=catProductDetail&_bcs_=-1%08%23%23%08%23%23%08http%3A%2F%2Fwww.store.motorola.com%2Fmot%2Fen%2FUS%2Fadirect%2Fmotorola%3Fcmd %3DcatLanding%08%23%23%08true%08%070%08600506%2F600745*%08MOTORAZR%26trade%3B%08http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sto re.motorola.com%2Fmot%2Fen%2FUS%2Fadirect%2Fmotorola%3Fcmd%3DcatDisplayStyle%26DispStyle%3DB2CStyleC ategory%08%23%23%08false%08%07200%0893471XQBSA%0893471XQBSA%08%23%23%08%23%23%08false%08&showAddButton=true&productID=93471XQBSA&tabName=Specifications)'s dimensions are 3.86" x 2.08" x 0.54." The iPhone is clearly larger, but you won't need bearers to carry it for you.
solvs
Jan 22, 2007, 11:36 PM
It's not that big. I was at MacWorld, I saw it in person. It looks smaller than a Treo (even though it's about the same size, but thinner). Pics online don't do it justice.
Bill Gates
Jan 22, 2007, 11:43 PM
I think it being large is a good thing. Thin phones such as the RAZR are awkward to hold.
laidbackliam
Jan 23, 2007, 12:11 AM
I live in France and we have 3G network since Q4 2005. In UK and Italy since 2003. So what?
BTW I confirm what a friend (who is working for a phone retailler) told me: iPhone is too large :(
As a proof, people don't want to walk in the street with a 30Gb iPod because the device is too large. They do prefer iPod nano so far. And if you consider the iPhone even bigger than a 30Gb iPod... so.
i walk around with my 30 gig ipod in my pocket all the time. i've used my roomates nano, and it's smaller, but i would say both work in my pocket.
Rodimus Prime
Jan 23, 2007, 12:32 AM
I think it being large is a good thing. Thin phones such as the RAZR are awkward to hold.
you will have to explain how the razr is awkward to hold. The razer is really wide for a cell phone. Most cell phones are narrow than the razr. The length of the razr when open and in talk mode is going to longer than the iPhone.
The razr is one of the wides cell phones out there really the only phones that are larger in that way are the smart phones.
Bill Gates
Jan 23, 2007, 12:41 AM
you will have to explain how the razr is awkward to hold. The razer is really wide for a cell phone. Most cell phones are narrow than the razr. The length of the razr when open and in talk mode is going to longer than the iPhone.
The razr is one of the wides cell phones out there really the only phones that are larger in that way are the smart phones.
The only time I really experience what I mentioned is when texting other people. I just prefer something meatier.
everhage
Jan 23, 2007, 12:58 AM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
The P800 wasn't too large. It was too UGLY. It looked like a blue brick. That's one major difference with the iPhone. Second, smartphones are increasing in popularity and the tendency is towards somewhat bigger phones. Third, the iPhone is more than a phone. People all seem to forget that. It's a phone & ipod in one. If you want a small phone, you buy a small phone. If you want an iPod and phone in one, you buy the iPhone. It;s about teh size of an iPod.
JLatte
Jan 23, 2007, 01:29 AM
a lot of us really do not have 2.
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Music_Producer
Jan 23, 2007, 01:32 AM
The 30 GB ipod is larger than the nano because it has a HARD DRIVE in it.
And the iPhone.. now whining about size?
WTF? What do you want? A phone so small that you can't even see who you are calling? Or can't see when you're flipping through albums? Seriously, for every innovative product that comes out there are a thousand, make that a million 'critics' who seem to be better at designing phones themselves.
I have always wanted a phone, a photo management tool and an ipod in one.. this is it, and much more of course. And thankfully, it's a good size so i can bloody see the videos, pictures, etc.
PS - Why don't you all complain about how big Digital SLR cameras are? How about a nikon d50 that fits on your pinkie finger? Ooooh.. that would make everybody drool.. but try using the bloody thing!
dpaanlka
Jan 23, 2007, 01:44 AM
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Sadly, I did not see any actual "too" in any of those quotes.
MacNut
Jan 23, 2007, 02:11 AM
Personally I like a good old flip phone, Something that fits in the pocket and does not feel awkward against the face.
CallistoJag
Jan 23, 2007, 04:45 AM
Sadly, I did not see any actual "too" in any of those quotes.
I think that is the point! :p
ImNoSuperMan
Jan 23, 2007, 04:53 AM
My Dream Apple Combination wud be a 60 GB WideScreen iPod(with all the features of iPhone sans the phone) with an ultra small iPhone Nano. And both of them not costing more than 600$ together. I`d buy em without any second thoughts et all.
MacBoobsPro
Jan 23, 2007, 04:57 AM
From what I can tell its no bigger than an SLVR. I have no problem with mine. Apart from the damaged speaker :rolleyes:
.Andy
Jan 23, 2007, 05:04 AM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Quickly! Email Apple and alert them of this FACT so they don't make a mistake.
I'll wait here and keep guard until you return.
Max Payne
Jan 23, 2007, 05:30 AM
I just called Steve. He told me the second generation iPhone will have 300GB HD, 12" multi-touch screen, fully functional Mac OS X 10.10, A3 printer and scanner, Fax, size of 1"X1"X0.2" and will be free with a free tariff for 24 months contract and 5000 free minutes. :eek:
What exactly do you want? Nothing comes for free and for each added option, space and money is required. Sit back, relax and wait for the damn thing to hit the streets. :)
whooleytoo
Jan 23, 2007, 05:48 AM
Rubbish - 3G is only really starting to come into its own. I pick up a new phone every year and my N73 is the first one where I've bothered getting a 3G handset or card and it was an afterthought. There's still not enough compelling content and the networks (aside from T-mobile) need to sort out their data rates. In all honesty, until very recently, it was 3G handsets which were too big to be attractive for the features they offered.
I'm in Europe and the problem with the P800/P900 (which I owned) was that it was bulky. The iPhone isn't. It's thin and that's the difference - it's also probably less likely to crash regularly which is what narked me with my p800. Looking at my current N73 and the iPhone pictures side by side, the iPhone looks far more sleek and pocketable.
My last 2 phones (N70, and 6680) have had 3G too, but I don't use it. Not with the current price plans from Vodafone - the last time I tried using it (and not even heavily) my monthly bill came to 300 euros, far more than how much the phone cost me. I know the networks here are very disappointed with the take-up of 3G, I can only assume they don't use (or have to pay for!) their own network.
I used to have a Motorola V50 which I loved the size of, but if you need email, web usage etc. you can't do it well in that form factor.
IMO, the two biggest mistakes Apple are making with the iPhone are:
- they're pricing it too high, so people assume it's designed to compete with smartphones aimed at the business/enterprise market, when I believe it's more an (expensive) phone aimed at the huge consumer market.
- they called it the iPhone, instead of a name indicative of a portable computer with a phone built in.
scan
Jan 23, 2007, 09:07 AM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
Perhaps... but I can tell you that in Asia the trend is the larger the better now. Personally, I don't look just look a the phones size but the relation with the screen. i.e. Nokia 8800 I don't like because its such a small screen for the size. The iPhone I think is perfect size but then again I'm not the ones who keep my phone in my pocket. For those that do, that might be a problem. We'll see I guess.
dejo
Jan 23, 2007, 09:27 AM
This is a fact.
No, it's your opinion. Next.
m-dogg
Jan 23, 2007, 12:10 PM
Man, when did full-size iPods become too big to pocket? Wasn't even the original iPod pocketable, hence the tagline 'a thousand songs in your pocket?'
I missed that memo. And to think, I've been cayrying my big old 30gb 3rd gen iPod around with me at all times all these years. What a sucker I am! :rolleyes:
The main reason the minis/nanos sell so well is because they the cheapest ipods that come with a screen. Most people have small music libraries and don't need to larger capacity of the hard-drive based iPods. Why pay more money for more space if you aren't going to use it anyway?
I think the iPone has a nice blend of size and features. The price is (might be?) the problem. That and Cingular in the US.
slffl
Jan 23, 2007, 12:12 PM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
Then don't buy it! Why post this? Do you think Steve himself is going to read it and all of sudden redesign the iphone just because you don't like the size?
IJ Reilly
Jan 23, 2007, 12:51 PM
Face it, all mobile phones are a pain to carry around, especially for men. Most of us rely on some kind of a holster anyway. If Apple or someone else comes up with a really slick one for the iPhone, then size is no problem.
Grakkle
Jan 23, 2007, 08:26 PM
Give it some time and it will be even better. The thing is, I wouldn't want it much smaller since you want to have a big screen - there has to be a trade off at some point.
D
It's true that there has to be a minimum size for it to be useful, but a huge phone that won't even fit in a pocket isn't much use either.
I tend to agree with the people who think the iPhone is a bit too large for comfortable use. I like small phones myself.
blueflame
Jan 23, 2007, 09:32 PM
my input from having been allowed to actually see the iphone up close and personal. it is not too big. it is pretty much the same as the razr. almost an inch taller, and not at all noticably wider. the pictures on the apple page are actual size, print it out cut it out, and put it up to 90% of phones ive seen here in the USA, and it will seem quite comparable, not at all overly bulky.
as someone earlier here said. i am also going to personally wait till the nano version. All i really want is an ipod video/phone. let me play movies, music and my sell, thats it. make it the size of a nano, i will buy same day. regardless of almost anyhting else. just do all 3 well
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islandman
Jan 23, 2007, 09:39 PM
It's not much larger than my razr, so I see nothing wrong with it.
ChrisA
Jan 23, 2007, 09:54 PM
This is why mobile phone market is quite different in Europe. We do prefer small phones. Here in Europe we have 3G network in every countries since 2 years and even our 3G phones are small. iPhone has a too large form factor for our customer requirements.
You may be right. Notice that Apple is not selling the iPhone in Europe until after it has been out in the US for about a year. By then there will be another phone.
wako
Jan 23, 2007, 09:55 PM
In my opinion you if you are going to compare the size of the iPhone, you cant compare it with the rest of the wireless industry. You are comparing apples and oranges if you do, even though they are fruits.
In the keynote Jobs is clearly out to target the Smartphones sector of the wireless industry, so it would only be fair to compare it them. As of right now the iPhone is not that big at all, it is decently sized and well designed.
To the OP, the reason why the Sony Ericson P800 flopped is not because of the size. If you were around when the phone came out or even got a good look at one yourself, the phone was also decently sized. The problem with that damn phone was that it ran for 1000 USD that no carrier wanted to carry it! The phone was just too expensive for any ordinary people to buy! It soon became a boutique item that even today that line of phones are still sold at mostly boutique stores.
MultiMediaWill
Oct 26, 2011, 12:42 AM
Ironic thing is we all want 4" screens now.
Night Spring
Oct 26, 2011, 12:46 AM
Ironic thing is we all want 4" screens now.
LOL, great find! Thanks for the laugh!
dejo
Oct 26, 2011, 12:47 AM
Ironic thing is we all want 4" screens now.
No, we all don't.
MarcBook
Oct 26, 2011, 01:34 AM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
I think that's a slight overgeneralisation. Here in the UK, the iPhone (and large Android phones) sell extremely well and I've never heard anyone complain about the size. I'm speaking from a youth perspective, though, and I get that older generations might prefer larger phones.
Students such as myself, however, think that the iPhone is the perfect size for a phone. Many are fans of BlackBerry phones, which are of a similar size or somewhat more squat (shorter and wider).
thenerdal
Oct 26, 2011, 01:55 AM
No, we all don't.
Most people do.
eaglesteve
Oct 26, 2011, 02:09 AM
I think iPhone is too small. I prefer bigger phones.
The Game 161
Oct 26, 2011, 02:19 AM
Don't like huge phones
thats what my ipad is for.
iBreatheApple
Oct 26, 2011, 02:36 AM
Holy resurrect!
Chundles
Oct 26, 2011, 02:41 AM
This thread is awesome. The iPhone equivalent of Thread 500.
daneoni
Oct 26, 2011, 02:44 AM
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
They do? funny i've been seeing a lot of HTC Sensation/HTC Desire/HTC HD7 and Samsung Galaxy S II lately.
autigerMark
Oct 26, 2011, 03:11 AM
I think that's a slight overgeneralisation. Here in the UK, the iPhone (and large Android phones) sell extremely well and I've never heard anyone complain about the size. I'm speaking from a youth perspective, though, and I get that older generations might prefer larger phones.
Students such as myself, however, think that the iPhone is the perfect size for a phone. Many are fans of BlackBerry phones, which are of a similar size or somewhat more squat (shorter and wider).
Hey man, you do realize the post you are responding to was written way back in 2007 right?
boomhower
Oct 26, 2011, 03:24 AM
Holy thread redirection Batman!
Metal Dice
Oct 26, 2011, 03:47 AM
I agree with the OP, consumers are definitely not demanding bigger screens.
AlvinNguyen
Oct 26, 2011, 03:51 AM
lol great find actually - I don't know why but I always LOVED the iPhone - even from day 1. I was coming from a T-Mobile Dash at the time (windows mobile 6? LOL) and some previous Nokia devices - all were huge compared to the iPhone. I actually don't think the first generation iPhone looks bad at all compared to the current one. Sure it's not as modern but it holds its own - thanks to Apple's futuristic designs.
Bernard SG
Oct 26, 2011, 03:53 AM
Most people do.
No we don't.
thenerdal
Oct 26, 2011, 04:04 AM
No we don't.
Yes, most people do, more than twice as much people who don't want a larger screen do want a larger screen. I've posted a poll and that proves what I said that most people do want a bigger screen.
Here's my thread that proves it: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1258541&highlight=
boss.king
Oct 26, 2011, 04:08 AM
Yes, most people do, twice as much people who don't want a larger screen do want a larger screen. I've posted a poll and that proves what I said that most people do want a bigger screen.
Here's my thread that I did: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1258541&highlight=
I want a bigger screen, but that poll is not representative of "most people". It's representative of 'some people who browse the iPhone board on MacRumors'.
thenerdal
Oct 26, 2011, 04:11 AM
I want a bigger screen, but that poll is not representative of "most people". It's representative of 'some people who browse the iPhone board on MacRumors'.
I was replying to this post at first: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13725568&postcount=55
So I mean most people on here. But, I'm pretty sure most people who have iPhones want a bigger screen.
mickbab
Oct 26, 2011, 04:13 AM
What are you talking about, the iPhone does have 3G ?!?!!? :rolleyes:
Why (now, clearly not in 2007) the big push for larger screens? I'm perfectly happy with the current screen size. What's the attraction to these enormous screens coming out now? (e.g. 4.65" Galaxy Nexus)
stevebubble
Oct 26, 2011, 04:25 AM
I was replying to this post at first: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13725568&postcount=55
So I mean most people on here. But, I'm pretty sure most people who have iPhones want a bigger screen.
326 people is not most of the people on Macrumors. Yes some people do want a bigger screen but you cant say from a poll with a tiny number of participants, that it means most people want an Ipohne with a bigger screen
thenerdal
Oct 26, 2011, 04:26 AM
326 people is not most of the people on Macrumors. Yes some people do want a bigger screen but you cant say from a poll with a tiny number of participants, that it means most people want an Ipohne with a bigger screen
Okay, I can estimate that most people who have an iPhone want a bigger screen. I can use the poll results and use it as an estimation.
jcorbin
Oct 26, 2011, 04:27 AM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
htc thunderbolt, samsung galaxy s 2, samsung galaxy prime, motorola bionic, motorola droid x, motorola droid x2, motorla droid, motorla droid2, motorla droid3, htc rezound, htc evo 4g
shall i continue?
there are way to many other gargantuan phones out there for the iPhone to be considered "big". at least in the U.S.
Chundles
Oct 26, 2011, 04:30 AM
htc thunderbolt, samsung galaxy s 2, samsung galaxy prime, motorola bionic, motorola droid x, motorola droid x2, motorla droid, motorla droid2, motorla droid3, htc rezound, htc evo 4g
shall i continue?
there are way to many other gargantuan phones out there for the iPhone to be considered "big". at least in the U.S.
Dude, thread is from 2007.
This is hilarious!
MonkeySee....
Oct 26, 2011, 04:32 AM
htc thunderbolt, samsung galaxy s 2, samsung galaxy prime, motorola bionic, motorola droid x, motorola droid x2, motorla droid, motorla droid2, motorla droid3, htc rezound, htc evo 4g
shall i continue?
there are way to many other gargantuan phones out there for the iPhone to be considered "big". at least in the U.S.
I love it when old threads come up and people think they are new. :cool:
eaglesteve
Oct 26, 2011, 04:38 AM
Dude, thread is from 2007.
This is hilarious!
LOL, exactly. The mobile phones in mid 80 were the size of car batteries. Then they became smaller and smaller until they almost disappeared in users hand. But that's when they were only phones and not computer yet. Nowaday it s more a computer than a phone, and the OP may no longer agree with his own statement made so many years ago.
mickbab
Oct 26, 2011, 04:39 AM
I love it when old threads come up and people think they are new. :cool:
Oh, you mean we're not in January 2007? :p
omegaphil6
Oct 26, 2011, 04:47 AM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
Its shame, I really liked the iPhone, too bad it never caught on! :o
eaglesteve
Oct 26, 2011, 04:52 AM
When iPhone was first designed, there was no plan to run third party applications. I wonder if the intention was to anticipate all kinds of applications to run on it right from the beginning, I wonder if Apple could have made a different decision regarding screen size.
Sedrick
Oct 26, 2011, 04:58 AM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
You're joking, right? The iPhone is the smallest smartphone on the market. I think you want the 'Droid forums. And in case you haven't noticed, smartphones (3.5" and up) are already massively popular and widespread. If you want to browse the web or anything else on a 'phone', you'll need at least a 3.5" phone. Otherwise, you don't need a smartphone.
peterjcat
Oct 26, 2011, 05:06 AM
The little box at the top of the post tells you when it was written.
decafjava
Oct 26, 2011, 05:09 AM
You're joking, right? The iPhone is the smallest smartphone on the market. I think you want the 'Droid forums. And in case you haven't noticed, smartphones (3.5" and up) are already massively popular and widespread. If you want to browse the web or anything else on a 'phone', you'll need at least a 3.5" phone. Otherwise, you don't need a smartphone.
2007 thread. ;)
MultiMediaWill needs to be hung, drawn and quartered. :mad:
Night Spring
Oct 26, 2011, 06:35 AM
2007 thread. ;)
MultiMediaWill needs to be hung, drawn and quartered. :mad:
He has annoyed me before, but not this time -- seeing that OP from back in 2007 is hugely entertaining! How quickly we've gone from "too big" to "too small." LOL!
jcorbin
Oct 26, 2011, 06:54 AM
Oh, you mean we're not in January 2007? :p
woops, just saw the thread at the top of the forums. meaning it was still active because people were updating it today.
honestly if a thread is no longer relevant (i.e almost 5 years old) it should be closed. but w/e its still entertaining
bbplayer5
Oct 26, 2011, 07:03 AM
Its a real shame it never caught on, I agree... This blackberry sucks.
Interstella5555
Oct 26, 2011, 08:55 AM
Yes, most people do, more than twice as much people who don't want a larger screen do want a larger screen. I've posted a poll and that proves what I said that most people do want a bigger screen.
Here's my thread that proves it: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1258541&highlight=
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Obscurelight
Oct 26, 2011, 09:05 AM
If the Op thought iPhone was big, then the op might've fainted when he saw an android phone :D
spades1412
Oct 26, 2011, 09:24 AM
OP nailed it in 2007. The iPhone has turned out to be a huge failure. :mad:
MultiMediaWill
Oct 26, 2011, 11:51 AM
OP nailed it in 2007. The iPhone has turned out to be a huge failure. :mad:
The sarcasm...
BoxerGT2.5
Oct 26, 2011, 11:57 AM
We drive SUV's, you drive matchboxes. Iphone is small by US standards.
Namji
Oct 26, 2011, 12:05 PM
This thread is proof to show how many people actually pay attention...
Too many fails.. lol
lilo777
Oct 26, 2011, 12:52 PM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
Here in US, where the prevailing method of transportation is a car, larger phones work very well. In my own experience, there is a huge difference between city living (Europe) and small town/suburb living. When in cities, people tend to talk on the phones a lot. For us here, the media/computer part of the phone is much more important. Phones are used more for video, gaming, web browsing than for voice calling (obviously this varied from person to person but compared to Europe in general this is the case). For this type of usage larger screen becomes a must. And if out pockets need to grow to accommodate this life style - they will.
HeatherA
Oct 26, 2011, 01:04 PM
The original post in this ancient thread just made my day. Love how the OP was so dead on in his prediction! :rolleyes:
Givmeabrek
Oct 26, 2011, 01:18 PM
Ha, ha, made my day too. Really funny. Can't fit it in my pocket because it's too big!! LOL :D
MultiFinder17
Oct 26, 2011, 01:29 PM
Oh goodness, I love it when one of these necrothreads rises from the before times, the long long ago and haunts our present.
MultiMediaWill
Oct 31, 2011, 03:39 PM
I wonder if the OP has a change of opinion now.
andyprit
Oct 31, 2011, 03:43 PM
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I (honestly) belive my iPhone is the perfect size. If a bigge one came out, I wouldn't buy it.
Cuneyd
Oct 31, 2011, 04:03 PM
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
Thanks for telling us which countries are in Europe.
xraydoc
Oct 31, 2011, 05:19 PM
Man, I really wish that the iPhone caught on. I've had like 5 of them now and I can't make anyone else get one...!!
/ah, July 2007... those were good times.
szolr
Oct 31, 2011, 05:25 PM
This is a fact. Four years ago, the most advanced smartphone ever, Sony-Ericsson P800, failed to be a mass product because it was too large. Same thing will happen to Apple iPhone :(
Here in Europe (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ...) people hate large phones. What about in the USA?
This is brilliant! :D :D I remember when people used to say this sort of thing. And now people are complaining 3.5 inches is too small to be competitive. What a joke... I still think, like I did in 2007, that 3.5 inches is a very nice size for a phone-it fits in my pocket; sorted. :cool:
Mr.C
Oct 31, 2011, 06:11 PM
I wonder if the OP has a change of opinion now.
I wonder when people will stop resurrecting old threads that don't need to be because they are ridiculous and pointless. :eek: :rolleyes:
ericrwalker
Oct 31, 2011, 06:22 PM
I think a 3 inch phone would be awesome.
xraydoc
Oct 31, 2011, 06:28 PM
I wonder when people will stop resurrecting old threads that don't need to be because they are ridiculous and pointless. :eek: :rolleyes:
Why? This one I found quite funny. Interesting to see what the opinions were when the iPhone was first introduced compared to today where the iPhone is the single best selling phone on the planet.
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