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wmmk
Feb 7, 2007, 10:33 PM
Hey-
Not that I'm in the market for a new phone, but I'd be interested to see what everyone around here thinks the iPhone's top competitor is. I'm thinking something that either has way more features or costs considerably less.



tominated
Feb 8, 2007, 01:31 AM
i mreckon the lg prada will give the iPhone a little competition

clevin
Feb 8, 2007, 08:19 AM
smart phone market is small, u can count them easily

palm
blackberry
windows mobile (a bunch)

market leader is blackberry, but i do like palm
http://www.palm.com/us/images/products/smartphones/treo680/overview_680_photo.jpg
$199 with cingular, 399 unlock

MisterMe
Feb 8, 2007, 08:26 AM
As of this writing, the iPhone is not a shipping product.

Assuming that we know everyone about the product that will ship, it will be much more than a feature list. It is a game-changing product with no real competition.

The iPhone is still in development. We don't know what capabilities it will have when it ships.

clevin
Feb 8, 2007, 08:32 AM
As of this writing, the iPhone is not a shipping product.

Assuming that we know everyone about the product that will ship, it will be much more than a feature list. It is a game-changing product with no real competition.

The iPhone is still in development. We don't know what capabilities it will have when it ships.

change ur "will" to "may", it would be a perfect statement.

But, I do admire your confidence. :D

jsw
Feb 8, 2007, 08:35 AM
I find this (http://www.myiphone.com/samsungs-answer-to-the-iphone-07344.php#more-344) to be a seemingly compelling near-future alternative. Sadly, of course, its 3G capabilities are worthless here in the States.

clevin
Feb 8, 2007, 08:39 AM
I find this (http://www.myiphone.com/samsungs-answer-to-the-iphone-07344.php#more-344) to be a seemingly compelling near-future alternative. Sadly, of course, its 3G capabilities are worthless here in the States.

i think Op want either 1. lot more features than iPhone, or 2. way cheaper...:D

jsw
Feb 8, 2007, 09:03 AM
i think Op want either 1. lot more features than iPhone, or 2. way cheaper...:D:o Good point.

Well, it has, oh, 40 or so more keys that the iPhone. Does that count? ;)

tutubibi
Feb 8, 2007, 09:55 AM
I find this (http://www.myiphone.com/samsungs-answer-to-the-iphone-07344.php#more-344) to be a seemingly compelling near-future alternative. Sadly, of course, its 3G capabilities are worthless here in the States.

I like "real" keyboard on this Samsung and slide factor.
Nice phone and available pretty soon. And it will probably be available unlocked -- big plus when compared with iPhone.

More pictures:
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/en/news-13261-When+the+Korean+GOD+awake%2C+he+gives+us...+the+Samsung+Ultra+Smart+F700.html

jsw
Feb 8, 2007, 10:14 AM
I like "real" keyboard on this Samsung and slide factor.
Agreed. Maybe Apple will come out with a nice BT KB accessory, but, really, the touchscreen pad doesn't cut it for me. I use the phone for email as well as calls, and a keypad is a must. Or at least a strongly-desired.

fozy
Feb 8, 2007, 10:25 AM
Keyboards are definitely a must for those users already accustomed to them. I went ahead and replaced my Treo 650 with a Treo 680 and couldn't be more pleased. With increased ram and slightly faster processor it's a definite upgrade. While the Treo doesn't handle music well I also must carry an iPod when music is desired increasing devices to 2.


Agreed. Maybe Apple will come out with a nice BT KB accessory, but, really, the touchscreen pad doesn't cut it for me. I use the phone for email as well as calls, and a keypad is a must. Or at least a strongly-desired.

iShak
Feb 8, 2007, 11:25 AM
oh apple will probably sue samsung for having a single button on the face and a very similar earphone slit ... plus it is black .. why dont sue them for this too?

anyways .. a very very decent device indeed, good multimedia suport (do i read h.264 and AAC??) also full html browsing <whatever that means ... etc.

tutubibi
Feb 8, 2007, 01:37 PM
oh apple will probably sue samsung ...

I don't think Apple will risk losing supply of flash memory for iPods :p

harveypooka
Feb 8, 2007, 01:47 PM
I find this (http://www.myiphone.com/samsungs-answer-to-the-iphone-07344.php#more-344) to be a seemingly compelling near-future alternative. Sadly, of course, its 3G capabilities are worthless here in the States.

It has a nicer camera at 5MP.

starflyer
Feb 8, 2007, 01:53 PM
As of this writing, the iPhone is not a shipping product.

Assuming that we know everyone about the product that will ship, it will be much more than a feature list. It is a game-changing product with no real competition.

The iPhone is still in development. We don't know what capabilities it will have when it ships.

God! We know that the iPhone hasn't shipped yet. He is asking hypothetically, and asking about the iPhone with the features as we know them right now. Quit hi-jacking everyones thread that asks a question about the iPhone and trying to look smart by telling them that "the iPhone hasn't shipped yet. We know! If you dont have anything to contribute than don't post.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=271895

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=273596

vniow
Feb 8, 2007, 01:53 PM
More pictures:
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/en/news-13261-When+the+Korean+GOD+awake%2C+he+gives+us...+the+Samsung+Ultra+Smart+F700.html

Ooh, I like. A lot.

Agreed. Maybe Apple will come out with a nice BT KB accessory, but, really, the touchscreen pad doesn't cut it for me. I use the phone for email as well as calls, and a keypad is a must. Or at least a strongly-desired.

I have a Windows Mobile phone and am seriously looking at the iPhone when it comes out but one of the main reasons I got this particular phone is because it has a slide-out QWERTY keyboard like the Samsung linked above. I was disappointed that the iPhone's keyboard was screen only until I did a little experiment.

Windows Mobile phones have a on screen keyboard too but its tiny and really only accessible by stylus. Not very good for typing at any reasonable speed. But it has another input method known as Phone Pad which is pretty much what it sounds like, a small 3x3 on-screen pad of numbers, each one being about the same size as the iPhone's keys. I went into Word and started typing pretty much gibberish but I found out that it was actually easier to use the onscreen Phone Pad than the hardware QWERTY keyboard. If the pad was an actual keyboard and not just numbers I would use it a lot more often.

Ok, that was a bit long and off on a tangent but anyhoo...

Stella
Feb 8, 2007, 02:19 PM
Nokia N95 - poor battery life though, otherwise, an excellent phone. More features than the iPhone and plenty of 3rd party apps. For a communicator, the Nokia E90 will be an excellent device, of course there's already the E61, E70 and 9200 / 9300 communicators.

Hey-
Not that I'm in the market for a new phone, but I'd be interested to see what everyone around here thinks the iPhone's top competitor is. I'm thinking something that either has way more features or costs considerably less.


Oh, you forgot Symbian, the worlds #1 smartphone OS, not BlackBerry actually. Nokia have the most marketshare for smartphones. :-)

The smartphone market is pretty large actually. There are only around 5 different smartphone OSes but however:
- Symbian
- Palm
- BB
- Linux
- Windows mobile / smartphone

There are a lot of manufactures who make such devices -
Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, BenQ, Blackberry, Palm, HP, to name a few.

You could not count all the devices on one hand, and I'd be surprised if anyone could name ALL the smartphone devices out there

smart phone market is small, u can count them easily

palm
blackberry
windows mobile (a bunch)

market leader is blackberry, but i do like palm
http://www.palm.com/us/images/products/smartphones/treo680/overview_680_photo.jpg
$199 with cingular, 399 unlock

Macnoviz
Feb 8, 2007, 02:55 PM
I find this (http://www.myiphone.com/samsungs-answer-to-the-iphone-07344.php#more-344) to be a seemingly compelling near-future alternative. Sadly, of course, its 3G capabilities are worthless here in the States.

Yet over here in Europe, the iPhone is being criticised for not having 3G, for which we have excellent cover (with HSDAP (I may have screwed up the letter order)) being faster than most broadband connections. (still along the expensive side, though, €30 per month for 2GB, I believe)

Though America has always been a bit slower in the cellphone businness, still using CDMA and such and such

EDIT: of course, the US is a totally different country than for example Belgium, which is extremely densely populated.

wmmk
Feb 8, 2007, 10:21 PM
I find this (http://www.myiphone.com/samsungs-answer-to-the-iphone-07344.php#more-344) to be a seemingly compelling near-future alternative. Sadly, of course, its 3G capabilities are worthless here in the States.

Ooh, I like. A lot.

It would be awesome (5MP camera!!!), but has pinstripes ala OS 10.0 beta

Are the other smartphone OSes skinnable? If some weren't so FUGly, I'd get them. I don't have enough $$$ right now to care about an apple logo on a phone. Also, are there any smartphones out there geared towards photographers/creative people? I know the iPhone is one answer, but I'm not willing to pay for it right now.

Stella
Feb 9, 2007, 08:06 AM
I don't know about others, but I know Symbian based phones are:
Nokia , SonyErcisson and a few others.

It would be awesome (5MP camera!!!), but has pinstripes ala OS 10.0 beta

Are the other smartphone OSes skinnable? If some weren't so FUGly, I'd get them. I don't have enough $$$ right now to care about an apple logo on a phone. Also, are there any smartphones out there geared towards photographers/creative people? I know the iPhone is one answer, but I'm not willing to pay for it right now.

awhitaker
Feb 9, 2007, 11:58 AM
My alternative to the iphone is a RAZR, ipod, and a PSP. I really only want an ipod and a cell phone in one package. Three priorities for me are: talking, listening to music, and playing games. The PSP has a wifi browser but I don't ever use it. The ipod plays my music and I talk on my phone. Throw some ducktape around those babies and I've got the perfect gadget for me.:)

ijimk
Feb 9, 2007, 08:25 PM
My alternative to the iphone is a RAZR, ipod, and a PSP. I really only want an ipod and a cell phone in one package. Three priorities for me are: talking, listening to music, and playing games. The PSP has a wifi browser but I don't ever use it. The ipod plays my music and I talk on my phone. Throw some ducktape around those babies and I've got the perfect gadget for me.:)

lol the razr and ipod video are my perfect combo. I will probably not be an early adopter of the iphone due to its small HD. I need my 60 gigs :p and my razr is just fine for now that is.

zap2
Feb 9, 2007, 09:09 PM
If i had to go buy a smart phone right now, it would be a Palm Treo

Rasheem
Feb 10, 2007, 10:22 AM
God! We know that the iPhone hasn't shipped yet. He is asking hypothetically, and asking about the iPhone with the features as we know them right now. Quit hi-jacking everyones thread that asks a question about the iPhone and trying to look smart by telling them that "the iPhone hasn't shipped yet. We know! If you dont have anything to contribute than don't post.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=271895

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=273596

Thank You for saying that.

Jon'sLightBulbs
Feb 10, 2007, 12:17 PM
I find this (http://www.myiphone.com/samsungs-answer-to-the-iphone-07344.php#more-344) to be a seemingly compelling near-future alternative. Sadly, of course, its 3G capabilities are worthless here in the States.

Worthless in Andover, maybe! Perfectly loving my 720 kbps in chicago on a blackjack :)

The Talking Mac
Feb 10, 2007, 02:31 PM
My answer to the iPhone was to take my old RAZR and hack the iPod and wire them together. GO DIY. I will put up a site on how to do it soon. GO APPLE:apple: :apple:

wako
Feb 10, 2007, 04:24 PM
honestly I think the best alternative to the iPhone, I would even go to say the better phone to the iPhone are PocketPC phones. Despite what Steve Jobs want you to think, as slick as the iPhone maybe with the touch features built in, you are confined to the programs that are built in. Probably even worse, you are confined to what AT&T will allow you to download for a fee.

On PocketPC phones you can customize the bananas out of the phone with a bunch of applications that have already been made, largely thanks to Windows CE programmers. There are dozens of freeware out there that you can do alot more than what the iPhone is offering.

If only the iPhone would allow 3rd party programmers to make applications and take use of how OSX is integrated into the phone I would quickly join the bandwagon. Until v2 of the iPhone i guess for me...

bloodycape
Feb 11, 2007, 03:35 AM
Anything from HTC that has a touch screen.

tjcampbell
Feb 11, 2007, 04:55 AM
I have had my XDA Orbit (o2) for a few weeks now and it's the best phone I have ever owned. :D

Clear calls.
It's small and light.
Built in Wi-Fi
Built in internal Sat Nav antenna! I run TomTom 6 no problem.
Syncs with everything via missing sync which makes it pefect for me.
I put skype on it and it works like a charm.
Micro SD slot. Got a 2gb card on ebay (syncs with iphoto, itunes so life is good)

An Excellent product. I wont consider an iPhone until it has satnav. This feature is just too handy for me.

Supa_Fly
Feb 11, 2007, 11:55 PM
I have had my XDA Orbit (o2) for a few weeks now and it's the best phone I have ever owned. :D

Clear calls.
It's small and light.
Built in Wi-Fi
Built in internal Sat Nav antenna! I run TomTom 6 no problem.
Syncs with everything via missing sync which makes it pefect for me.
I put skype on it and it works like a charm.
Micro SD slot. Got a 2gb card on ebay (syncs with iphoto, itunes so life is good)

An Excellent product. I wont consider an iPhone until it has satnav. This feature is just too handy for me.

Sat Navigation I find expensive and overrated. Where are you going to get lost with such a delicate & expensive & nice device hmm?!!!! Exactly. But great phone non the less. Question Sat Nav & TomTom will it ONLY update/DL maps over the provider wireless data connection (GSM/GPRS/EDGE)??!!

Well it ALL depends what you want out of your smartphone and what you know you WILL intend to do with it within the near future - standard 4mths - as applications debut for it.

> From my great experience & knowledge of continuously working in the cellular field and now supporting networks & BlackBerry devices.

> That Samsung Ultra Smart F700 LOOKS nice but what can it do daily. Great feature is 7.2 Mbps HSDPA support > but unless you plan on connecting to your Mac Pro to do presentations & also deliver presentation connecting to your Mac Pro as an admin over SSH or using it as your daily Mac modem (mobile or stationary) its just hype. 1.8Mbps is QUITE enough for streaming H.263/4 standard video formated for that kind of screen.

> DON'T just look at the SPEC's of a device ... look at its features & how you go about interacting with them. That Samsung device is just a copy of what HTC has mastered.

HTC TyTN (not the cingular 8525 remake (which D-Pad is inferior in execution as apposed to tactile feel).


The HTC S620/Dash is a VERY capable device for Themes, Phone Calls, Voice Activated (non trained) dialing, Email (MS Push or BlackBerry Connect), Internet Surfing - us Opera Browser so much more efficient & much better plus its free.

My choice on Palm is to AVOID ALL units unless its a PocketPC device. It so much more powerful, integrated features (editing word documents - something Mobile 6 tomorrow will announce in full).

If you want native .mov video support > just resize it and get a BB Pearl > incredible device that for work I must get for training a group of 20ppl > and I love its media features (camera is a pale comparison to my SE W810 or the SEk800/790 but will do for quick face shots - I'm not trying to see the zits on the face)


E90 SHOULD be nice, but I want to SEE a working prototype before I rest my faith in it. They said the SAME thing about the 9500/9300 and BOTH SuCkeD EGGS! I love S60 so the E90 Communicator will delight some. I'm thinking the E61i with a 2MP camera will be the BEST option for UMA, WiFi or EDGE surfing and 3G roaming in Europe. FULL incredibly Stable BB COnnect that matches the RIM Blackberry devices the BEST of any 3rd party device! IMAP4 Push Email is already supported. And it has NO memory issues over heavy Browsing WITH or WITHOUT other apps running or ran like the beautiful but ****y N80 (i'm STILL made Nokia didn't give it more ram), the E70 suffers as well.

You want something NOW!

BEST Bang for the buck IF:

Email is your primary Focus:
1> TMobile DASH (a Branded HTC S620)
> Video, A2DP Streaming Audio of MP3s
> MS Exchange Push Email or iMAP4 POLL email.
> great navigations and VERY tweakable screens, thems & desktop home screen like no other.
> great WiFi surfing.

2> BlackBerry Pearl: same as above, and SUPPORT for Flash on websites (not all but more than ANYTHING on the market BAR NONE!). With STYLE.
NOTE: BLackBerry's are the ONLY yes ONLY phones that are FULLY supported by the manufacturer when you can UPGRADE or DOWNGRADE the firmware by the END user! THE ONLY to support BOTH uP/dOwn! I deal with BB's daily and if there is a known memory chip error or firmware code or hardware error > something that has been extensively tested & documented LONG before these models enter full public hands (you all have NO idea how well the documentation is available to the public on errors on the BB units & possible resolutions) something other manufacturers are criminal not to match. Error not documented but device doesn't perform as it should or expected then manufacturer replaces via the provider!

3> Nokia E61.
> Same as all above; except the browser flash support & incredible confidence in the firmware/hardware of the device (Not even the LARGEST manufacturer can match what RIM provides)

BEST Power you can get...

> HTC ATHENA
- To big, too heavy, too expensive > just buy a laptop.

> HTC TyTN
- Tri-Band 3G Yes it'll work worldwide (until TMobile launches their Bizarro 3G network)
- Flash with 2MP camar with auto focus & macro mode.
- Touch screen but with dedicated answer, hangup, scrollwheel, Camera shutter, Dpad, Email, Internet, soft screen buttons, and slide out keyboard
- Quadband GPRS/EDGE & WiFi 802.11b/g
> this or its baby quadband GPRS/EDGE


Wait till this weeks announcements from:
- SonyEricsson and UIQ3 (SYmbian based like S60 is) for product revisions!
E61i & E90 will have a working prototypes & production devices working.

- Nokia S60 devices (rumored besides the 6190/N95/75/76 mentioned already)

- HTC quite a few (17 including the Athena)

- Others/Provider partnerships on products from the manufactures getting branded.

Stella
Feb 12, 2007, 12:13 AM
The E90 looks like it could be an absolute killer phone. The E70 is a very good phone, but doesn't have enough memory in it and the form factor is good too.

The RIMs can't touch the Nokia E-Series, they can do everything that a RIM can and more ( especially its web browsing capabilities ). The Email and calendar client could be better ( but then, thanks to 3rd party software you can get replacements for both ).


E90 SHOULD be nice, but I want to SEE a working prototype before I rest my faith in it. They said the SAME thing about the 9500/9300 and BOTH SuCkeD EGGS! I love S60 so the E90 Communicator will delight some. I'm thinking the E61i with a 2MP camera will be the BEST option for UMA, WiFi or EDGE surfing and 3G roaming in Europe. FULL incredibly Stable BB COnnect that matches the RIM Blackberry devices the BEST of any 3rd party device! IMAP4 Push Email is already supported. And it has NO memory issues over heavy Browsing WITH or WITHOUT other apps running or ran like the beautiful but ****y N80 (i'm STILL made Nokia didn't give it more ram), the E70 suffers as well.

biturbomunkie
Feb 12, 2007, 12:15 AM
currently i have a sony ericsson p990i and am quite happy with it. while i can't say it's the "best iphone alternative," the features that i use are better/comparable - i.e. 2MP camera w/ flash + auto focus. the flash doubles as a flashlight and it's quite handy. in addition, i can use the P990i for navigation w/ BT GPS. furthermore, i find the keyboard very useful and practical when it comes to text messaging and email.

there's no doubt that the iphone will work well w/ my mac and will have a better UI than my P990i. however, i doubt i would sign a two-year contract w/ cingular just for the minor upgrades.

bloodycape
Feb 12, 2007, 12:16 AM
I kinda cant wait for the HTC VOX and Libra(a more powerful CDMA version) to come out. It is a mixture of the TyTN and the Dash(no touch screen sorta of a shame). Both look very impressive.

Stella
Feb 12, 2007, 12:18 AM
SE have released a firmware upgrade for the p990i - if you haven't already, upgrade it - it improves the stability plus other nice fixes.

currently i have a sony ericsson p990i and am quite happy with it. while i can't say it's the "best iphone alternative," the features that i use are better/comparable - i.e. 2MP camera w/ flash + auto focus. the flash doubles as a flashlight and it's quite handy. in addition, i can use the P990i for navigation w/ BT GPS. furthermore, i find the keyboard very useful and practical when it comes to text messaging and email.

there's no doubt that the iphone will work well w/ my mac and will have a better UI than my P990i. however, i doubt i would sign a two-year contract w/ cingular just for the minor upgrades.

biturbomunkie
Feb 12, 2007, 12:27 AM
thx for the info. if you are talking about the firmware (R4A13) released in late jan '07 / early feb, i have upgraded already.

personally i have never found the p990i unstable. but the firmware update does improve the overall menu speed.

SE have released a firmware upgrade for the p990i - if you haven't already, upgrade it - it improves the stability plus other nice fixes.

biturbomunkie
Feb 12, 2007, 12:57 AM
actually, i see my smartphone as a swiss army knife. almost always your phone is with you, and it's there for the unexpected. in addition, you don't have to be lost to use navigation. for example, after clubbing this past fri night, buddies and i decided to get hangover food in thai town - a place that we seldom go, and no nav in our friend's car. could we have used google sms to get directions? definitely. but was tomtom more helpful? you bet.

tomtom 6 works by storing maps and POIs on your mobile device, meaning that an internet connection is not required for navigation. with an internet connection; however, you can use extra features such as TT traffic and TT plus.

Sat Navigation I find expensive and overrated. Where are you going to get lost with such a delicate & expensive & nice device hmm?!!!! Exactly. But great phone non the less. Question Sat Nav & TomTom will it ONLY update/DL maps over the provider wireless data connection (GSM/GPRS/EDGE)??!!

Supa_Fly
Feb 12, 2007, 01:01 AM
[QUOTE=Stella;3346334]The E90 looks like it could be an absolute killer phone. The E70 is a very good phone, but doesn't have enough memory in it and the form factor is good too.

The RIMs can't touch the Nokia E-Series, they can do everything that a RIM can and more ( especially its web browsing capabilities ). The Email and calendar client could be better ( but then, thanks to 3rd party software you can get replacements for both ).[/QUOTE}

Web browsing FEATURES (ALT Tabbing like feature wasn't done by NOkia alone as I'm sure you already know Stella, ;) - I'm an S60 child too hehe) but you are WRONG on the webbrowsing NO imbedded FLASH support! and the security over web browsing is superiour on the BB sorry (SSL, SSH, WSTL, etc) and I'm NOT talking about flash lite that is now part of the OS in newer S60s.

E90, again I'll wait until a working prototype with video/spyshots debuts; until then its heresay. The form-factor has been around WAY too long about as long as SE's or sorry Ericsson R lineup (the first Symbian smartphone ever). But SE's P990 has a slight evolution, the Nokia Communicator hasn't as far as we know. Tomorrow we'll know.

Stella
Feb 12, 2007, 06:55 AM
Thanks for saying about the web browsing.


E90 info:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/4891_Welcome_to_the_future-the_Noki.php

[QUOTE=Stella;3346334]The E90 looks like it could be an absolute killer phone. The E70 is a very good phone, but doesn't have enough memory in it and the form factor is good too.

The RIMs can't touch the Nokia E-Series, they can do everything that a RIM can and more ( especially its web browsing capabilities ). The Email and calendar client could be better ( but then, thanks to 3rd party software you can get replacements for both ).[/QUOTE}

Web browsing FEATURES (ALT Tabbing like feature wasn't done by NOkia alone as I'm sure you already know Stella, ;) - I'm an S60 child too hehe) but you are WRONG on the webbrowsing NO imbedded FLASH support! and the security over web browsing is superiour on the BB sorry (SSL, SSH, WSTL, etc) and I'm NOT talking about flash lite that is now part of the OS in newer S60s.

E90, again I'll wait until a working prototype with video/spyshots debuts; until then its heresay. The form-factor has been around WAY too long about as long as SE's or sorry Ericsson R lineup (the first Symbian smartphone ever). But SE's P990 has a slight evolution, the Nokia Communicator hasn't as far as we know. Tomorrow we'll know.

superted666
Feb 12, 2007, 08:02 AM
I used the symbian OS on a N70 and while to use its not too bad i found it slow.
Slow to do pretty much anything and i was at times waiting for a button press to get through its system. I now have a samsung d900 which is fast and easy.

Not as capable but battery life is way better.

Im tempted by the o2 xda thingy with GPS allthough i wudnt use it much its a windows version of the iphone and being in the uk available much earlier :)

Stella
Feb 12, 2007, 08:16 AM
N70 was infamous for being slow. Fortunately Nokia have impressed performance a lot since then.

Slider phones like the D900 et al are pretty nice, IMO. The sliding keyboard just appeals to me for some reason!
I used the symbian OS on a N70 and while to use its not too bad i found it slow.
Slow to do pretty much anything and i was at times waiting for a button press to get through its system. I now have a samsung d900 which is fast and easy.

Not as capable but battery life is way better.

Im tempted by the o2 xda thingy with GPS allthough i wudnt use it much its a windows version of the iphone and being in the uk available much earlier :)

Supa_Fly
Feb 13, 2007, 01:38 PM
Thanks for saying about the web browsing.


E90 info:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/4891_Welcome_to_the_future-the_Noki.php

[QUOTE=Prom1;3346412]

Great phone that E90 is ... actually considering by it in September (when its expected to be mass available) however that entire link of the preview mentions the features of the web browsing that the new Nokia browser has but NOTHING in regards to "Flash" or "SVG" support. I've even read the entire brief over the Nokia Browser, but it cannot do what the RIM browser is specific for security - some of the security levels it cannot support. Each has its own benefits & I will wager that the Nokia browser is best suited to almost everybody here BUT there is no SVG or Flash support (And I'm not talking about Flash Lite 2.0).

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-webbrowser-en.shtml

USe the search function on the link above for "flash" and you'll see that only stated ... Flash. The OSS browser carries support for FlashLite 2.0 onboard, which is one of the highlights of FeaturePack 1 and seemingly one of the reasons why this browser hasnít been adapted for usage with older devices. Impressive yes but still laking what I want in a browser ;)

So, do you also plan on getting this E90 or something else? Me I still have to get a RIM 8820 (when Tmobile launches the WiFi edition) for work/training purposes but I prefer the multimedia functions of that E90.