Student ADC Question

[AaronICT]

Anyone here a member of Student ADC? Besides the generous hardware discount, what's the other benefits like? For example, are the monthly mailings useful? Is it true when Leopard comes out, I'll get that with my ADC membership?

Thanks for your input.

[NewSc2]

Anyone here a member of Student ADC? Besides the generous hardware discount, what's the other benefits like? For example, are the monthly mailings useful? Is it true when Leopard comes out, I'll get that with my ADC membership?

Thanks for your input.

1) Yes.
2) You get a copy of Tiger plus an OSX t-shirt.
3) If you program, yes. I went through the first few months but haven't really touched the last fe.
4) Yes.

[MacDonaldsd]

1) Yes.
2) You get a copy of Tiger plus an OSX t-shirt.
3) If you program, yes. I went through the first few months but haven't really touched the last fe.
4) Yes.

Yeah theres no other surprises

[AaronICT]

What about Leopard? Do ADC members receive Leopard when it releases automatically?

[Habusho]

What about Leopard? Do ADC members receive Leopard when it releases automatically?

If it's released within 1 year of signing up for the ADC.

[diamond3]

I have just found out about the ADC. I am just sort of confused about what its about. So if I am a student, I sign up for the ADC for $99, then I can receive around %20 off a new computer? Do they have the Mac Pro that I could purchase through this and if so for about how much?

Now, what are the stipulations on my part. Do I need to do anything along the way of any sort. Or could I just sign up, get the discount and do nothing else after that? Hopefully someone here can fill me in on this. If it is what it sounds like, why don't more people join to get the discount?

[WildCowboy]

Details are here (http://developer.apple.com/products/student.html). Anyone can access the Developer Store to see prices here (http://developer.apple.com/membership/hardware.html).

You will have to fax proof of current enrollment before they'll activate your account.

It's also important to note that you only get one ADC student hardware discount per lifetime. So make it count by buying an expensive machine.

[zap2]

Anyone can access the Developer Store to see prices

Wow...thats a deal on the Mac Pro and MacBook Pro, the iMac, Mac Mini and Macbook deal are not as good.

Also it seemed as thought I could as anything I want to my cart? So I could buy a MacBook Pro and Mac Pro for that price?

[Pressure]

Wow...thats a deal on the Mac Pro and MacBook Pro, the iMac, Mac Mini and Macbook deal are not as good.

Also it seemed as thought I could as anything I want to my cart? So I could buy a MacBook Pro and Mac Pro for that price?

No, you are only eligible for one hardware purchase if you have a Student ADC membership.

[polevault139]

Well for the Select Membership you can get 1 hardware purchase per year, but for $499.

The Premier gets you 10 Hardware purchases per year for $2,499.

[diamond3]

Does anyone have any first hand experiences with the program as far as software related.

[jng]

You will have to fax proof of current enrollment before they'll activate your account.

What kind of proof? Schedule? Transcript? Photocopy of Student ID?

[jng]

Nevermind, I just looked it up on their website. What bothers me is it doesn't say anything about graduation. Technically I graduate next month....so am I then invalid for the ADC membership? Does anyone know?

I'll see if I can contact Apple, but someone already has the answer, that'd be awesome.

[WildCowboy]

What kind of proof? Schedule? Transcript? Photocopy of Student ID?

Proof of enrollment...linky (http://developer.apple.com/faq/students.html#anchor1). An ID likely isn't enough unless it proves that you are enrolled for the current term. A course schedule for the current term or enrollment verification letter is probably the safest method.

Nevermind, I just looked it up on their website. What bothers me is it doesn't say anything about graduation. Technically I graduate next month....so am I then invalid for the ADC membership? Does anyone know?

I assume that once you clear the initial screening, you're okay for the year's membership, even if you graduate during that time. I don't know if they do another verification when you try to make a purchase under the program...I doubt it. After graduation, you'd have to move up to the ADC Select level ($500/year).

[Freyqq]

do you have to be a computer science major to do this?

[Erasmus]

do you have to be a computer science major to do this?

No. Read the Terms and Conditions.

[Glenn Wolsey]

Is there any workaround for the minimum age of 18 for the student membership? I am enroled in a college course at the moment, so I have that to use for student proof, only problem is my age (15) - I'm 3 years under.

[bearbo]

Wow...thats a deal on the Mac Pro and MacBook Pro, the iMac, Mac Mini and Macbook deal are not as good.

Also it seemed as thought I could as anything I want to my cart? So I could buy a MacBook Pro and Mac Pro for that price?

i've gone as far as place an order at that price (by simply going through the ADC store, without a membership of course) when i was just trying to see how far i can go. i cancelled the order for obvious reasons

No, you are only eligible for one hardware purchase if you have a Student ADC membership.

while i'm sure that's true, i wonder at what point are they gonna cancel my order... or ship my order:p

Is there any workaround for the minimum age of 18 for the student membership? I am enroled in a college course at the moment, so I have that to use for student proof, only problem is my age (15) - I'm 3 years under.

i dont think you can work around it if you are 3 yrs under... maybe if you are ALMOST, but 3 yr is a bit of a stretch

[AVID]

I've placed an order for a MP recently under student ADC membership. There are three identification process:
1 - student number given to apple
2 - email/fax student ID/Driver's license plus enrolment letter from the university, on which will have your commencement and graduate date. (dont know about those who are a few months prior grad.)
3 - There was a review period after i placed my order (most purchases they just send you an acknowledgement and then quite quickly a confirmation order, but for me there was an acknowledgement with the words "being review", and then the confirmation came a few days later)

So i think there is quite a process involved, unlike the student discount.

[osx-linux]

Is there any workaround for the minimum age of 18 for the student membership? I am enroled in a college course at the moment, so I have that to use for student proof, only problem is my age (15) - I'm 3 years under.

Nope, they won't allow it. Legal reason, you must be 18 years of age for the developer program contract to be legally valid.

ding ding "Even if I'm 17 years 11 months?!"-- yes, even then.

There is no way around this, no exceptions. (well ok, perhaps if you're last name happens to be "Jobs" and you refer some guy as "Uncle Steveo who likes black shirts")

[osx-linux]

Nevermind, I just looked it up on their website. What bothers me is it doesn't say anything about graduation. Technically I graduate next month....so am I then invalid for the ADC membership? Does anyone know?

I'll see if I can contact Apple, but someone already has the answer, that'd be awesome.

They want to you be enrolled in classes now. today, the day that you sign up for the program. If you are going to graduate next month, that means you must do it now, and you must be currently enrolled in classes now.

Thats the requirement, you are going to class now. If I call the registrar of your college/univeristy and ask is "joe smith" a with student id number "1312313" currently taking coursework at your college/univeristy, and they answer yes-- then you can join the program.

I do not know what you mean by "technically graduating" but hopefully the above information helps you.

[osx-linux]

Does anyone have any first hand experiences with the program as far as software related.

Shakes magic 8-ball: Please clarify your question.:D

[vendettabass]

just out of interest, how much more discount do the ACD students get than regular HE students?

[gnasher729]

Is there any workaround for the minimum age of 18 for the student membership? I am enroled in a college course at the moment, so I have that to use for student proof, only problem is my age (15) - I'm 3 years under.

Unfortunately not. The problem is that as an ADC member you can get access to materials under an NDA (non-disclosure agreement), and by becoming an ADC member you agree not to distribute that kind of material. If you are 15, such an agreement would not be legally binding and cannot be made legally binding. As a result, Apple cannot accept ADC members under 18.

[Erasmus]

just out of interest, how much more discount do the ACD students get than regular HE students?

Internet research is your friend.

Here in Oz, I can get a 2.33 15" MBP for 3520 with student discount, and 3190 with ADC.

[synth3tik]

I have just found out about the ADC. I am just sort of confused about what its about. So if I am a student, I sign up for the ADC for $99, then I can receive around %20 off a new computer? Do they have the Mac Pro that I could purchase through this and if so for about how much?

Now, what are the stipulations on my part. Do I need to do anything along the way of any sort. Or could I just sign up, get the discount and do nothing else after that? Hopefully someone here can fill me in on this. If it is what it sounds like, why don't more people join to get the discount?


If your confused by it, it isn't meant for you. Not to sound rude, but if some one forks over the cash (usually a company) for an ADC membership they know all about it.
The program is a way to help people programming software for the Mac to have at their disposal all they need to create software that works wonderfully on OS X.


If you just need a student discount Apple offers that.

[jng]

I do not know what you mean by "technically graduating" but hopefully the above information helps you.

Some schools graudate in June and as far as I know the regular student discounts are per academic year according to the Apple website, so even though I graduate next month, I could still place an order through the edu store in the summer.

But then again, as someone pointed out they don't use a rigorous check for regular edu purchases.

[jng]

Oh yeah, I also said technically because I'll still be a student next year, hopefully - just not in the states. As soon as I find out where I'm heading to in Europe, I'll enroll again probably only to come back to the U.S. in about a year. So I'm a perpetual student, despite "graduation." That's what I meant.

[diamond3]

What i was trying to get at with the software related information:

They say you can get pre-released software updates, builds of leopard (not with the Student version), and stuff similar to this. Basically what I am trying to ask is, besides the discount on the hardware that I could get with the Student membership what other perks are there? If I am not a programmer or anything of that nature, what else makes signing up for this program worth it.

synth3tik
If your confused by it, it isn't meant for you. Not to sound rude, but if some one forks over the cash (usually a company) for an ADC membership they know all about it.
The program is a way to help people programming software for the Mac to have at their disposal all they need to create software that works wonderfully on OS X.


If you just need a student discount Apple offers that.

If I I knew everything about this program, then obviously I wouldn't be asking the questions here. That is why i asked the questions. I want to find out more, and hopefully find someone who is in the program. Also, I know apple offers education discounts, but if I signed up for this for $99, and bought a Mac Pro, I would still be under $100 cheaper.

Too me it sounds like a lot of people didn't know too much about this program apple offers.

[Freyqq]

No. Read the Terms and Conditions.

it says something about it being a development computer..

for a history major like me..i don't plan on doing much development frankly..

[jng]

it says something about it being a development computer..

for a history major like me..i don't plan on doing much development frankly..

Yeah, but they can't really check. and they say the same about edu purchases, must be used just for school, etc. But that's not always the case.

[Freyqq]

Yeah, but they can't really check. and they say the same about edu purchases, must be used just for school, etc. But that's not always the case.

true, but the fact that they want your schedule makes me nervous..i mean if I did use this discount it would be pretty obvious I have no idea how to develop =\

[DigitalAx]

true, but the fact that they want your schedule makes me nervous..i mean if I did use this discount it would be pretty obvious I have no idea how to develop =\

There's no legal consequences if they reject you.

Submit your app and if they really have a problem admitting you to the program they'll let you know, and that'll be the end of the story. If they accept you, great you save a few bucks.

[Freyqq]

There's no legal consequences if they reject you.

Submit your app and if they really have a problem admitting you to the program they'll let you know, and that'll be the end of the story. If they accept you, great you save a few bucks.

would they refund my 100$?

[DigitalAx]

would they refund my 100$?

erm. Call them and ask.

[jng]

true, but the fact that they want your schedule makes me nervous..i mean if I did use this discount it would be pretty obvious I have no idea how to develop =\

I don't think your schedule necessarily has to mean anything. I'm a web designer/developer but I'm studying International Relations and Economics. As long as they approve me I'm happy.

I've actually never had formal Computer Science training and I'm looking to dabble in that next year, but I'm going to do it somewhere else. The ADC discount only saves you $100 compared to Edu discount. It's worth it if you have interest in OS X etc. I personally want to try and make some widgets.


I got a prompt response from Apple and graduation does not matter, so actually I'm going to order ADC this week and get the paperwork done.


Hello ------,

Thank you for contacting the Apple Developer Connection regarding the ADC Student Membership.

Please know that once your ADC Student Membership is activated, the membership will be valid for one year.

For example if the membership begins on the 01/01/07 it will be valid until 01/01/08. Your graduation or change of institution within this time frame would not affect this.

I hope you find this information useful. Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you have any further problems or queries.

Best regards,

Luke ------
Apple Developer Connection
Worldwide Developer Relations

[plux79]

Proof of enrollment...linky (http://developer.apple.com/faq/students.html#anchor1). An ID likely isn't enough unless it proves that you are enrolled for the current term. A course schedule for the current term or enrollment verification letter is probably the safest method.



I assume that once you clear the initial screening, you're okay for the year's membership, even if you graduate during that time. I don't know if they do another verification when you try to make a purchase under the program...I doubt it. After graduation, you'd have to move up to the ADC Select level ($500/year).

Does the course schedule have to be official?
My courses that I could access online do not have any student information on it. Also, I don't think that any school are allowed to give out student information to third party.

[airfang]

Does the course schedule have to be official?
My courses that I could access online do not have any student information on it. Also, I don't think that any school are allowed to give out student information to third party.

go to ur enrollment online system or sth. like that, print out a course schedule for this semester, and that's enough (and that's what I did).

[Freyqq]

I don't think your schedule necessarily has to mean anything. I'm a web designer/developer but I'm studying International Relations and Economics. As long as they approve me I'm happy.

I've actually never had formal Computer Science training and I'm looking to dabble in that next year, but I'm going to do it somewhere else. The ADC discount only saves you $100 compared to Edu discount. It's worth it if you have interest in OS X etc. I personally want to try and make some widgets.


I got a prompt response from Apple and graduation does not matter, so actually I'm going to order ADC this week and get the paperwork done.

+ free lepoard i believe

[snapplejack18]

Whats the ADC and how can I join to get some dope discounts?

[aeiz]

Whats the ADC and how can I join to get some dope discounts?

http://developer.apple.com/products/student.html

[Modjo]

This is for all ADC student members trying to buy a system AND put it on their own or fathers (etc.) company to get a tax refund.

I have my own company with a fellow student. We develop web-related stuff, and some simple cocoa apps. So i tried putting it on the company's name etc.

Apple (Belgium or EMEA) won't do that. Because, in their eyes, an ADC student membership is incompatible with ownership of a company.
However, if it's a one-man company, there's nothing to worry about. The company's assest are your assets.

In any other case, they won't send the invoice to the company address, they won't include the VAT number on any corresponence etc.