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reajesse
Jul 8, 2003, 12:55 PM
hello,
I recently learned of the possibility of getting a discount on apple hardware by joining ADC. I am a student and am eligible. It says that I have to pay a $99 registration fee. Is that the only thing I will have to pay to received the student discount. Also do I have to do anything else besides join to get the discount. Are there any students that have joined and got the discount? let me know if it is easy or a big pain

thanks jesse

maxvamp
Jul 8, 2003, 01:23 PM
If you are looking for an education discount, simply go to the Apple store, and go to the bottom of the screen. You will see an icon on the right sode of the screen for the education store.

Follow it, and you should be able to find your school. You then will be taken to a special store page with discounts. The hardware discounts are minimal, while the software is often as much as 50% off.

If you want to take advantage of the hardware discounts through ADC, you need to be a select member for at least a year, or a premier member. The hardware discounts for these are high enough to help offset the cost of the dev memberships.

Hope this helps.

Max

janey
Jul 8, 2003, 01:42 PM
keep in mind this: don't use the education discount. honestly it sucks. The ADC student membership comes with ONE hardware discount asset, up to 20% off the hardware you're gonna buy. The $99 will cover everything including the ADC mailing, the hardware discount, a free copy of WebObjects and other discounts and stuff. Before WWDC, Apple also chooses student developers for free passes. The only drawback is that you might have to currently be in a computer-related class.
I almost got the student membership before my aunt got me a better one :p so i really can't help you with the experiences thing :) good luck!

Abstract
Jul 8, 2003, 04:33 PM
Okay, I have to ask: Is it easy to get? Is it as easy as signing up and paying the fee? Is the "Student ADC membership" the same thing as the "ADC membership", or are there no noticeable advantages to the "Student ADC" regarding the discount??

And yes, the student discount sucks, but it's better than nothing. http://forums.fanhost.com/forums/graemlins/meh.gif

scifi451
Jul 8, 2003, 05:50 PM
I am also looking at the ADC membership since I am going to be buying a new computer for school this fall and am interested to know if it is as easy to pay $99 to get the discount.

Lyle
Jul 8, 2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by maxvamp
If you are looking for an education discount, simply go to the Apple store, and go to the bottom of the screen. You will see an icon on the right side of the screen for the education store.

Follow it, and you should be able to find your school. You then will be taken to a special store page with discounts. The hardware discounts are minimal, while the software is often as much as 50% off.Yes, but these hardware discounts for students (which you correctly describe as "minimal") are not nearly as good as the net hardware discount you can receive if you sign up for the $99.00 Apple Developer Connection Student Membership. For example, using the standard educational discount it looks like I can get a new 1.8 GHz PowerMac G5 for $2,299.00 -- a measly $100.00 discount off the list price. Compare this to the (one-time) hardware discount that you get with an ADC Student Membership, where the same 1.8 GHz PowerMac is $1,919.00 (for a net savings of $380.00).

If you want to take advantage of the hardware discounts through ADC, you need to be a select member for at least a year, or a premier member....... or a student member. For more details, see this page (http://developer.apple.com/students/) for information about the ADC Student Program, and in particular this information (http://developer.apple.com/students/sthardware.html) about the one-time hardware discount.

Lyle
Jul 8, 2003, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Abstract
Okay, I have to ask: Is it easy to get? Is it as easy as signing up and paying the fee?It is easy to sign up on-line, but they do have to verify your student status before they will activate your membership. The instructions about how to do this are listed at the bottom of this page (http://developer.apple.com/students), under the heading "How to Enroll". The process consists of your faxing a copy of some picture ID plus a copy of "a current or upcoming course schedule or other official proof of enrollment from your college/university". I did this one day around lunchtime and they had activated my membership within a few hours' time.Is the "Student ADC membership" the same thing as the "ADC membership", or are there no noticeable advantages to the "Student ADC" regarding the discount?Not sure I understand the question, but maybe the information at the ADC's Membership Overview (http://developer.apple.com/membership) page can help. There is a completely free ADC membership (the "on-line" flavor) that doesn't come with any hardware discounts. The "Student", "Select" and "Premier" memberships (all of which cost something to join) offer hardware discounts of some kind.

For me, the student membership (at $99.00) was attractive because I'm planning to purchase a 15" PowerBook as soon as they're updated. Assuming the prices don't change, the prices for that PowerBook will be either $2,599.00 (full list price), $2,449.00 (with the regular educational discount) or $2,079.00 (with the ADC Student Membership's one-time hardware discount). So even after paying the $99.00 for an ADC Student Membership, I should realize a net savings of about $420.00. I just consider all the crap they send you as a part of the ADC Membership as a little bonus. ;)

zulgand04
Jul 8, 2003, 06:50 PM
wow it definatly is worth the 99$. 1599 for a 1.6ghz G5 wow

-Neal

ZildjianKX
Jul 8, 2003, 07:30 PM
I signed up for it last month, super easy to do. Just fax them your transcript and copy of your reg card. Very painless.

Kwyjibo
Jul 8, 2003, 08:23 PM
i've seen different answers in different threads...does he have to be ina developer class or no?

ZildjianKX
Jul 8, 2003, 08:45 PM
Nope, just in college.

janey
Jul 8, 2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
Nope, just in college.
not always.
on a sidenote they almost never ask for age, they assume you're 18+ years old because most college students are not under 18.
it's certainly definately worth the $99 to get a 20% hardware discount (might as well buy a cinema display, an airport base station, an iPod and an iSight with it lol) and the free copy of webobjects...useful thing to have :)
Abstract: Student ADC member, premiere ADC member...doesn't make a difference...well it sorta does but you're still a paying ADC member. it's very simple to be a student ADC member takes like 5 minutes if you have everything they want.
If you can afford it and don't need the hardware discount, go for the select membership. you can get übercool developer level tech support, if you're ever in cupertino, beijing or tokyo you can check out the übercool adc labs, copy of mac os x server, copies of the latest version (commercial) of mac os x, you get the seed software...:p
then if you really can afford it go for the premiere membership...with webobjects, a free wwdc tix, everything apple has to offer to developers :p

Abstract
Jul 8, 2003, 11:00 PM
Sorry if I wasn't being clear.

The student ADC discount is 20% and it costs $99 to enroll. Okay, that is fine. I qualify. :) However, if I wasn't a student and I wanted to join the ADC, would I still get the same discount? Is there an equivalent program for "Adults" who wish to pay $99 only and get the same 20% discount, or is the membership fee more? :confused:

Oh wait, nevermind. The adult ADC membership, the "ADC Select", only get a 20% discount, but the membership fee is $500. I think I'd do that if I had to purchase something major, like a Cinema display and 2.0GHz dual G5. :o

Cheers.

janey
Jul 8, 2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Abstract
Oh wait, nevermind. The adult ADC membership, the "ADC Select", only get a 20% discount, but the membership fee is $500. I think I'd do that if I had to purchase something major, like a Cinema display and 2.0GHz dual G5. :o
ahem read my post above, especially the end.
here, to make it simple for you:
...go for the select membership. you can get übercool developer level tech support, if you're ever in cupertino, beijing or tokyo you can check out the übercool adc labs, copy of mac os x server, copies of the latest version (commercial) of mac os x, you get the seed software...
the select and premiere memberships are much better than the student membership, that's why they're so costly.

ZildjianKX
Jul 9, 2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by übergeek
not always.


Wait, you sometimes have to be in a developer's class? I was answering "just in college" in regards to the question if you have to be in any special classes. Anywho, ADC rocks.

janey
Jul 9, 2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
Wait, you sometimes have to be in a developer's class? I was answering "just in college" in regards to the question if you have to be in any special classes. Anywho, ADC rocks.
well, the thing is apple doesn't really have a clear policy about the classes you need to be in to become an ADC member. sometimes they want you to be in a developer class, sometimes they don't

The_Wall
Jul 9, 2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by übergeek
not always.
on a sidenote they almost never ask for age, they assume you're 18+ years old because most college students are not under 18.
it's certainly definately worth the $99 to get a 20% hardware discount (might as well buy a cinema display, an airport base station, an iPod and an iSight with it lol) and the free copy of webobjects...useful thing to have :)
Abstract: Student ADC member, premiere ADC member...doesn't make a difference...well it sorta does but you're still a paying ADC member. it's very simple to be a student ADC member takes like 5 minutes if you have everything they want.
If you can afford it and don't need the hardware discount, go for the select membership. you can get übercool developer level tech support, if you're ever in cupertino, beijing or tokyo you can check out the übercool adc labs, copy of mac os x server, copies of the latest version (commercial) of mac os x, you get the seed software...:p
then if you really can afford it go for the premiere membership...with webobjects, a free wwdc tix, everything apple has to offer to developers :p




The way I understand it from they apple ADC Student website is you have to buy WEbObjects sepratley after your a member for $99.00. Correct me if I'm wrong but thats how I understood it.

ZildjianKX
Jul 9, 2003, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by The_Wall
The way I understand it from they apple ADC Student website is you have to buy WEbObjects sepratley after your a member for $99.00. Correct me if I'm wrong but thats how I understood it.

You do have to buy webobjects, unless you are a premier member.

Also, the ADC website says:
ADC ships the latest version of Mac OS X to Select and Premier members upon commercial release.

My ADC came with Jaguar... think I'll get Panther for free when it comes out? :)

And ubergeek, you don't have to take any dev classes...

To be eligible for the ADC Student Program, you must be currently enrolled as a part-time or full-time student at a college or university, have a student identification number, and be at least 18 years of age.

tazo
Jul 9, 2003, 01:22 AM
on apple it says it is like $7k for a premier membershipp. how come its only 99 dollars for students vs 7k for everyone else?

janey
Jul 9, 2003, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by tazo
on apple it says it is like $7k for a premier membershipp. how come its only 99 dollars for students vs 7k for everyone else?
$99 for student
$500 for select
$3500 for premier
oh damn you people are right about webobjects :p
zildjian: i think apple gives it to adc members for free :p
and sometimes apple wants to know if you are enrolled in any dev classes even though it isn't mentioned as a requirement.

tazo
Jul 9, 2003, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by übergeek
$99 for student
$500 for select
$3500 for premier
oh damn you people are right about webobjects :p
zildjian: i think apple gives it to adc members for free :p
and sometimes apple wants to know if you are enrolled in any dev classes even though it isn't mentioned as a requirement.

thx :) sometimes i am just err stupid lol

solvs
Jul 9, 2003, 02:40 AM
http://developer.apple.com/students/studentfaq.html

Mehmet
Jul 11, 2003, 03:53 PM
so im guessing that us high schoolers dont get to be in the ADC student program??

Im looking into grabbing a g5, but a fat discount would be nice :)

ZildjianKX
Jul 11, 2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Mehmet
so im guessing that us high schoolers dont get to be in the ADC student program??

Im looking into grabbing a g5, but a fat discount would be nice :)

Nope sorry, get your ass to college :)

Mehmet
Jul 12, 2003, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
Nope sorry, get your ass to college :)


hehe, believe it or not i cant wait to go :)

scifi451
Jul 12, 2003, 06:36 PM
Since this deals with ADC no point in starting a new thread.

I am looking at the new 15' inch whenever it comes... :rolleyes:

I am looking at the ADC student discount as one option for buying.

But if I would look elsewhere would I a cheaper place to buy a powerbook instead of ADC?

Just want to make sure I am getting the best deal.

ZildjianKX
Jul 12, 2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by scifi451
But if I would look elsewhere would I a cheaper place to buy a powerbook instead of ADC?

Just want to make sure I am getting the best deal.

I normally wouldn't dignify this with a response, but ADC isn't a "deal"... and GL finding a place that gives you more than 20% off, even as an Apple employee. There is always the option of theft if you want more than 20% off...

usr122122121
Jul 13, 2003, 09:48 AM
I don' t know if it will sway your decision any, but in the legal fine print for ADC Hardware Purchases, there's a clause that reads:
6. Participants in the ADC Hardware Purchase Program agree not to resell or otherwise transfer any items purchased for a period of at least one year from the date of shipment, and agree that all equipment ordered under the ADC Hardware Purchase Program will be used only for the purpose of developing software and/or hardware products that will be sold for use with Apple products.
Also, there's no class restriction. I'm a music major who programs on the side, and I'm an ADC Student. You don't have to be taking Dev. Classes, but, according to the legal mumbo-jumbo above, you have to use the computer solely for programming. ick.
-braxton

janey
Jul 13, 2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by usr122122121
all equipment ordered under the ADC Hardware Purchase Program will be used only for the purpose of developing software and/or hardware products that will be sold for use with Apple products.
the thing is most developers don't do that...and it's not like apple even cares :p

but anyway, if you can find anyone that can offer you a brand new mac for 20% off...tell me about it!

Phatpat
Jul 13, 2003, 07:02 PM
It's not really 20% off cause you have to pay sales tax from Apple, correct?

QCassidy352
Jul 13, 2003, 07:18 PM
"6. Participants... agree that all equipment ordered under the ADC Hardware Purchase Program will be used only for the purpose of developing software and/or hardware products that will be sold for use with Apple products."

Wait, let me see if I understand this. If I use my ADC discount to buy a new G5 to code on and also use it to post on macrumors, I'm violating the user agreement?

Apple clearly can't believe people will follow such a user agreement, and they honestly have no reason to care if you use the computer for things in addition to developing. So why do they even have that absurd user agreement? Or am I understanding their meaning incorrectly?

ZildjianKX
Jul 13, 2003, 07:45 PM
Of course its 20%... sales tax isn't part of a discount.

They have the user agreement so people buy them for the reason the program exists, to develope software.

dstorey
Oct 3, 2003, 04:14 AM
I'm thinking about joining the student ADC but a lot of things are made unclear on the site. Everyones agree'd that web objects cost an extra $99 right? Would I actually get a free version of Pather if i ordered now, as if i can get it free, I'll get a powerbook, otherwise i'll struggle on at university without one till it's bundled (course fees are already more than i can really afford and its a requirement to by a laptop - i'm funding with loans and sont really want to pay extra on top for pather too)

While the site gives the price of the us discounts, I live in the UK, and when you go to the eupore part of student ADC, it just sends you to the regular store and doesn't show you any discounted price. Does anyone know how much a 15" powerbook would be on ADC in the uk? Plus there is a budle offer on the normal edu site in uk, save £120 if you buy a ipod with a mac, and £180 if you buy a laptop and printer. If i was to buy a iPod with my powerbook, would that be discounted as well, otherwise if i go down that route, it may be cheaper to just get the powerbook+iPod at normal edu price. Plus it only gives the sign up fee in US$, not in £'s or €'s.

I should qualifty for this as i've just been accepted on a MSc in Internet and distro systems at Durham. Only thing is the requirments are a pc laptop with windows and linux duel boot, M$ Office and JBuilder. They do a discount purchase sceme there but it's with IBM. If i can get away with it, i'd prefere to pay a bit more and get a Apple (what doesn't have to duel boot to run office and unix, dunno about Jbuilder?)than a £1400 IBM i dont really want...but hey at least its not a DEll. Only thing is i'll have to go though the added expense of buying VirtualPC and Office :(