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serendipity0325
Aug 14, 2007, 12:39 AM
Click Here (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=261182018&s=143441)

EDIT: Link fixed.



EricNau
Aug 14, 2007, 12:48 AM
Yeah, I noticed this earlier.

With Paul McCartney and now John Lennon on iTunes, I'm sure the Beatles are right around the corner.

EDIT: That link doesn't work. Try This (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=261182018&s=143441).

EricNau
Aug 14, 2007, 04:55 AM
Looks like iTunes has fixed the problem.

Now the Lennon catalog is accessible in iTunes through this link (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=4416594).

paddy
Aug 14, 2007, 06:04 AM
Come on Apple, where's my Beatles? I'm just hoping to see their anthology on it now.

Mugetsu
Aug 14, 2007, 06:23 AM
did everybody forget that Michael Jackson owns the rights to the Beatles songs?

DavidLeblond
Aug 14, 2007, 08:34 AM
did everybody forget that Michael Jackson owns the rights to the Beatles songs?

Meh, he owns half of the publishing rights. Sony owns the other half. I don't think this has anything to do with the Beatles not being on iTunes.

MacRumors
Aug 14, 2007, 12:21 PM
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Apple announced (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/08/14itunes.html) today that John Lennon's solo catalog is now available on the iTunes Store. Meanwhile "Lennon Legend" and "Acoustic" collections are making their worldwide digital debut.

Also included for a limited 30 day period is exclusive video content to be included with some of the albums.
"John Lennon is one of the greatest artists of our time," said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. "We're thrilled to have his solo catalog available on the iTunes Store for the first time."

As part of EMI's catalog, the new songs are also available in iTunes Plus (DRM-Free) versions for $1.29 per song.


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/14/john-lennon-solo-catalog-on-itunes/)

nemaslov
Aug 14, 2007, 12:28 PM
Who's music? "I don't believe in Windows...I just believe in me, Steve Jobs and Me." :D

A Pittarelli
Aug 14, 2007, 12:39 PM
another step towards having the beatles catalouge be on itunes finally - come on remasters

imikem
Aug 14, 2007, 12:44 PM
While I enjoy listening to Mr. Lennon's music, we're starting to date ourselves by calling him an artist of our time, methinks... He's been dead more than a quarter of a century.

I'm still glad to see the addition to iTMS, in any case.

megfilmworks
Aug 14, 2007, 12:48 PM
Finally, hard to call yourself a music store, though, if you can't even by an album by the most famous recording act of all time. Can you say "Holiday Season"?

cliffjumper68
Aug 14, 2007, 12:51 PM
Tonight. Me. Download heaven! :D

hob
Aug 14, 2007, 12:57 PM
Just bought the Imagine video. Presumably no DRM if it says iTunes Plus next to it. I've never seen it before. Infact, I think this is my first ever iTunes video purchase...

Presumably more in september.

Anyway, they've done a good job - I like the page. Very apt. I wonder if Jobsy designed it himself?

chrisgeleven
Aug 14, 2007, 01:06 PM
I've wanted to buy "Imagine" and "Happy Xmas (War is Over)" for a long time. Finally I can do it and DRM free too!

50548
Aug 14, 2007, 01:08 PM
Finally, hard to call yourself a music store, though, if you can't even by an album by the most famous recording act of all time. Can you say "Holiday Season"?

Lennon was great as part of the Beatles, and kinda less so in his solo career; a welcome addition to iTMS anyway.

Now if we could only eliminate Yoko's "voice" and "talent" from those tracks where she appears...:rolleyes:

MrSmith
Aug 14, 2007, 01:23 PM
Time to move to Windows. :p

nemaslov
Aug 14, 2007, 01:51 PM
I think it is great that he is finally on iTunes but if you really want the music, BUY the remastered CDs instead. Much better sound, fidelity and packaging for maybe five bucks more per album or less. You will not regret it!!!

aprilfools
Aug 14, 2007, 01:51 PM
Don't get too excited about the Lennon catalog on iTunes. It is missing some important Lennon albums. Where is Double Fantasy, Shaved Fish, Milk and Honey?

iTunes is always incomplete!

JGowan
Aug 14, 2007, 02:05 PM
I think it is great that he is finally on iTunes but if you really want the music, BUY the remastered CDs instead. Much better sound, fidelity and packaging for maybe five bucks more per album or less. You will not regret it!!!I highly agree -- iTunes is great for the impulse buy or a single you want now and again, but for my money, I want the real CD, Case, Liner Notes, in short the whole experience. I want to be able to rip at Apple Lossless or burn a car CD withouth losing a bit. I love iTunes/Apple/Mac/Pixar/Steve/Boom and want it/them to do very well, but at the end of the day, it's all about the music.

With Paul McCartney and now John Lennon on iTunes, I'm sure the Beatles are right around the corner.I would imagine we'll see GEORGE & RINGO following up next AND THEN the Beatles... hopefully all for the Christmas holidays. What I'm truly hoping for is not only the songs showing up on iTunes, but a physical media package from Apple,... iPod, Remastered CDs and a DVD of 256bit AAC files to quickly load on the computer, without the ripping involved. It all goes back to my philosophy that really important stuff needs to be the unfettered version.

Don't get too excited about the Lennon catalog on iTunes. It is missing some important Lennon albums. Where is Double Fantasy, Shaved Fish, Milk and Honey?

iTunes is always incomplete!Probably a snag in contracts. Or perhaps a "let's see what the first selection of songs do before we let go of the bigger stuff." I think this logic is idiotic. You need to get the best selling for people to want to sample the lesser-known stuff.

chrisgeleven
Aug 14, 2007, 02:07 PM
Don't get too excited about the Lennon catalog on iTunes. It is missing some important Lennon albums. Where is Double Fantasy, Shaved Fish, Milk and Honey?

iTunes is always incomplete!

Were those on a different record label? If so, that is why.

Laurent
Aug 14, 2007, 02:32 PM
Don't get too excited about the Lennon catalog on iTunes. It is missing some important Lennon albums. Where is Double Fantasy, Shaved Fish, Milk and Honey?

iTunes is always incomplete!Those weren't solo projects (released under John Lennon & Yoko Ono) and Shaved Fish is a compilation...

did everybody forget that Michael Jackson owns the rights to the Beatles songs?This one is getting ooooooold!

So what's next? Lennon dancing in a iTunes TV ad?

Peace
Aug 14, 2007, 02:40 PM
Double Fantasy was released through Geffen/Capitol Records a part of the EMI Group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Fantasy

Laurent
Aug 14, 2007, 02:45 PM
Double Fantasy was released through Geffen/Capitol Records a part of the EMI Group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_FantasyThose albums are probably © Lenono Music (I know Double Fantasy is), this is an exception from the albums available on iTunes, which are © EMI Records Ltd.

Darkroom
Aug 14, 2007, 02:54 PM
was John Lennon really one the greatest artists of our time Steve? really? i think it's debatable...

Peace
Aug 14, 2007, 02:54 PM
Those albums are probably Lenono Music (I know Double Fantasy is), this is an exception from the albums available on iTunes, which are EMI Records Ltd.

From wikipedia :

In 1989, EMI acquired the rights to Double Fantasy from Geffen.

kumbaya
Aug 14, 2007, 03:05 PM
spelling mistake in the original post, arn



Also included for a limited 30 day period is exclusive video content to be includede with some of the albums.

awatiker
Aug 14, 2007, 03:10 PM
Milk & Honey and Double Fantasy are up, I just bought the former.

tk421
Aug 14, 2007, 03:10 PM
What I'm truly hoping for is not only the songs showing up on iTunes, but a physical media package from Apple,... iPod, Remastered CDs and a DVD of 256bit AAC files to quickly load on the computer, without the ripping involved.


Fat chance of that. If the CDs are remastered, you will get them from Apple. Apple Corps, at your local CD store or shipped from an online reseller. Apple Inc. will provide downloads only, or in the case of a Beatles iPod, preloaded on the iPod perhaps. You will definitely NOT get a package of CDs from them.

I would imagine we'll see GEORGE & RINGO following up next AND THEN the Beatles... hopefully all for the Christmas holidays.

Isn't Ringo's stuff on iTunes already? I know George isn't. I looked for All Things Must Pass a couple months ago.

calculus
Aug 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
was John Lennon really one the greatest artists of our time Steve? really? i think it's debatable...

I'll take that debate...

pagansoul
Aug 14, 2007, 03:27 PM
Let's not get into a debate over our different taste in music. Think of it as a step into having more variety in iTunes.

nemaslov
Aug 14, 2007, 03:29 PM
BUY THESE CDs (not iTunes) NOW:

Working Class Hero : Definitive Collection (the best overview if you can only have one).

Plastic Ono Band (His first proper studio solo album) Raw intense and one of the top five best Beatles' Solo Albums. His Primal Therapy album. Holds up very well and does not sound dated. Influenced many punk and Indie Bands

Imagine: Great. Souped up Phil Spector production and wonderful lyrics. Great arrangements. Most would vote his best.

Walls and Bridges. Very Underrated. Self produced. Great songs.

Lastly a personal fave is the Lennon Acoustic Album that came out not long ago. Many demos and folky versions, mostly solo, of his better known songs. A great companion to those listed above.

Someone PLEASE answer me this:


In my last post I listed what I thought were the best Lennon albums to buy. But why would anyone purchase the Working Class Hero: Lennon Collection on iTunes for $28. when they can get in on CD at Amazon for 23. No tax, no shipping and you get the frriggen disc? Better quality and booklet?

Again, aside from buying one tune at a time, I still prefer CDs. Much better value too.

http://www.amazon.com/Working-Class-Hero-Definitive-Lennon/dp/B000AV2G3I

Laurent
Aug 14, 2007, 03:53 PM
From wikipedia :

In 1989, EMI acquired the rights to Double Fantasy from Geffen.My 2000 remasters says otherwise...

nemaslov
Aug 14, 2007, 03:58 PM
My 2000 remasters says otherwise...

Actually all of the Lennon Albums went back to Capitol in the US and EMI Internationally. Geffen is one of those labels that was originally with Warners and then to EMI. It got absorbed (like everyone else) but Geffen is still sometimes listed on Double Fantasy. Yoko controls the reissues. Most of which are out now with a bonus track or two.

Porchland
Aug 14, 2007, 04:10 PM
Meh, he owns half of the publishing rights. Sony owns the other half. I don't think this has anything to do with the Beatles not being on iTunes.

You are correct.

From a number of things I have read, EMI is negotiating the terms with Apple and then Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Yoko Ono and George Harrison's estate will have to agree to it. Supposedly, George Harrison's wife is the one gumming everything up.

Peace
Aug 14, 2007, 04:14 PM
You are correct.

From a number of things I have read, EMI is negotiating the terms with Apple and then Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Yoko Ono and George Harrison's estate will have to agree to it. Supposedly, George Harrison's wife is the one gumming everything up.

I understand that.I think she would prefer all money from George's music go to charity.

Project
Aug 14, 2007, 04:34 PM
Meh. Im done with CDs now. Im all but past the sentimental stage of collecting them. I treasure my existing collection (which is over 1,000 deep) but after ripping them to iTunes they do not get used and just gather dust. So recently I made the switch to download only. Either iTunes+ or Boomkats 320kbs MP3s. Its good enough for me not to distinguish the difference on a very nice system. Doesnt sound as good as vinyl of course, but the ability to catalogue, sort, remix my music on iTunes far outweighs that negative.

nemaslov
Aug 14, 2007, 04:36 PM
I understand that.I think she would prefer all money from George's music go to charity.

No she is not gumming it up. The Beatles music is being remastered which is LONG overdue. Her comments came from an interview. End of 07 or early 08 they should finally be released.

When the albums are finally remastered you should buy the albums you want on CDs not on iTunes. Use iTunes for individual songs. You should buy probably at least five of the Beatles fourteen official releases. The singles (if you wish) you can buy individually or buy "1" the singles collection.

Fairly
Aug 14, 2007, 05:42 PM
did everybody forget that Michael Jackson owns the rights to the Beatles songs?
I think so. For AFAIK he doesn't own the songbook anymore.

MRIdeal
Aug 14, 2007, 06:14 PM
MMm Beatles. 2nd-favorite band after System of a Down and KoRn :D

slu
Aug 14, 2007, 06:56 PM
Just wanted to add that Milk and Honey and Double Fantasy are available, they just don't show up on the Lennon Page for some reason. Shaved Fish is not available, but Lennon Legend is Shaved Fish on steroids.

I am glad more content is being added to iTunes, but I already own all of these remastered CDs, so no big deal to me! :D

Rocketman
Aug 14, 2007, 09:04 PM
Meh. Im done with CDs now. Doesn't sound as good as vinyl of course, but the ability to catalogue, sort, remix my music on iTunes far outweighs that negative.

Most people miss the fact vinyl, as old of a format as it is, is superior in terms of acoustic harmonics and dynamic range. Direct to disc recordings are even vastly superior to those.

Rocketman

Laurent
Aug 14, 2007, 09:44 PM
Actually all of the Lennon Albums went back to Capitol in the US and EMI Internationally. Geffen is one of those labels that was originally with Warners and then to EMI. It got absorbed (like everyone else) but Geffen is still sometimes listed on Double Fantasy. Yoko controls the reissues. Most of which are out now with a bonus track or two.Thanks for the clarifications...

whatever
Aug 14, 2007, 10:44 PM
While I enjoy listening to Mr. Lennon's music, we're starting to date ourselves by calling him an artist of our time, methinks... He's been dead more than a quarter of a century.

I'm still glad to see the addition to iTMS, in any case.
I think you're dating yourself by saying "me thinks"!

But then again it's called old English for a reason.

alansky
Aug 15, 2007, 12:35 AM
While I enjoy listening to Mr. Lennon's music, we're starting to date ourselves by calling him an artist of our time, methinks... He's been dead more than a quarter of a century.

Dude, open your eyes! John Lennon is an artist of our time because the themes that informed his music are, sadly, as relevant today as they were when he was alive. In a world ravaged by war and corruption, as ours most assuredly is, how can anyone with half a brain think that John Lennon's message isn't relevant to our time?

corywoolf
Aug 15, 2007, 02:14 AM
Finally, hard to call yourself a music store, though, if you can't even by an album by the most famous recording act of all time. Can you say "Holiday Season"?

I can say bye bye U2 Special Edition iPod, Hello Beatles or Paul McCartney Special Edition iPod. It's been rumored for so long, Apple will probably release the collection alongside new iPods in October.

steve_hill4
Aug 15, 2007, 04:44 AM
Meanwhile "Lennon Legend" and "Acoustic" collections are making their worldwide digital debut.

So what, pray tell, is the format of my Lennon Legend CD on the shelf behind me? I was always under the belief that CDs stored music digitally also.

While I'm not having a go at arn individually, I am having a pop at the industry and a lot of those reporting it collectively. The closest you could come to argue that a CD didn't contain digital information is if the SPARS code said AAD, (analogue tape for recording, analogue tape for mixing/editing and digital mastering). Somehow unless the information had been re-recorded, and so therefore was not the same as the original album, (unlikely as the lazy git Lennon refuses to continue his career from beyond the grave), the iTunes would still be AAD.

Just a little annoyance of mine. Digital music isn't exclusive to describing deliverance via compressed file.

ozontheroad
Aug 15, 2007, 04:53 AM
meh !

big deal... who cares...

i guess there will be a lot of happy old people :)

me ducks :D

docgraham
Aug 15, 2007, 01:48 PM
I just made my first iTunes album purchase, I buy CD's, but Plastic Ono Band went missing from my recent move, and walla, today seemed to be a good day to start using the store. Lennon RULES! ! !

twoodcc
Aug 15, 2007, 04:00 PM
good news! maybe i'll buy some

JellyFish
Aug 16, 2007, 08:37 AM
Who cares about Lennon or the Beatles? :rolleyes:

I want to know when Led Zeppelin's music will be on iTunes. Robert Plant already has some stuff up there. It's strange that Zeppelin's music isn't up there.

JellyFish
Aug 16, 2007, 08:39 AM
Dude, open your eyes! John Lennon is an artist of our time because the themes that informed his music are, sadly, as relevant today as they were when he was alive. In a world ravaged by war and corruption, as ours most assuredly is, how can anyone with half a brain think that John Lennon's message isn't relevant to our time?

Lennon spewed a lot of socialist, pseudo-utopian garbage. Very typical baby boomer, he had his head firmly planed in his ass and you see that come out when he gets political in his music. Not all of it is like that but when he does, it's just nauseating. :rolleyes:

slow-life
Aug 16, 2007, 06:41 PM
A little bit sad that nobody here knows about the Instant Karma (http://low.instantkarma.org/download.html)/Make Some Noise (http://noise.amnesty.org/) project. Yoko On in fact donated the rights to John Lennon's entire solo catalogue to Amnesty International a few years back.

This summer a CD was released with covers by U2, REM, Green Day and others- also on the iTunes store in various different versions around the world. It's worth downloading at least some of the tracks; the album on the whole is a bit patchy but then covers albums usually are! The big name bands generally stick to karaoke-like efforts but there are a couple of beautiful re-interpretations of some of Lennon's most well known work (Regina Spektor's Real Love being a personal highlight). And the money goes to an extremely good cause instead of the usual record company pockets!

weckart
Aug 18, 2007, 04:44 PM
Don't get too excited about the Lennon catalog on iTunes. It is missing some important Lennon albums. Where is Double Fantasy, Shaved Fish, Milk and Honey?

iTunes is always incomplete!

Shaved Fish is worth getting, and is preferable to Legend as it avoids the later dross he churned out, but I would not call either of the others important. There are better things to spend money on.

zap2
Aug 18, 2007, 04:47 PM
This summer a CD was released with covers by U2, REM, Green Day and others- also on the iTunes store in various different versions around the world. It's worth downloading at least some of the tracks; the album on the whole is a bit patchy but then covers albums usually are! The big name bands generally stick to karaoke-like efforts but there are a couple of beautiful re-interpretations of some of Lennon's most well known work (Regina Spektor's Real Love being a personal highlight). And the money goes to an extremely good cause instead of the usual record company pockets!

At first, I disliked lot of the songs on that album, but they grew on me. I'd now say I like all of them, minus a few, and even those are decent