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DFox
Oct 20, 2008, 06:19 PM
Girl, Bus stop, other:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2949814445_38d87f3a0e_b.jpg

Little girl:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2959871234_bc315c57de_b.jpg

Fire Truck:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/2803287405_3120090be7_b.jpg

Reflection-1:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2883579562_859c9ae619_b.jpg

Reflection-2:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2809276019_2af88cd118_b.jpg

One leg:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2858303268_b693f1591e_b.jpg

SeVeN
Oct 20, 2008, 06:31 PM
Pic 1,2,4 and 5 look like they were taking in San Jose, not sure about the rest (fire truck in Sac im guessing)

timerollson
Oct 20, 2008, 06:32 PM
Definitely practice more because these look like regular P&S pictures.

DFox
Oct 20, 2008, 06:34 PM
Pic 1,2,4 and 5 look like they were taking in San Jose, not sure about the rest (fire truck in Sac im guessing)

Great guess! Actually the first one was taken in Mountain View

Definitely practice more because these look like regular P&S pictures.

Thank for the advise! However I have no idea how to: see the object the way I like most, take the camera off the bag, set F number (or switch lenses), make a shot, adjust ISO/shutter speed, make one more shot; - all in just a few seconds, since the whole scene I want to capture exists only for a moment?
This is a bit different if I take, say, 17mm fix lens, tripod, go to park and will be photoing benches in B&W (with some tilt!) for an hour or so.

upsguy27
Oct 20, 2008, 06:42 PM
So, what kind of DSLR is it?

DFox
Oct 20, 2008, 06:46 PM
So, what kind of DSLR is it?

Don't shoot me, guys! I have Canon XSI.. my first DSLR.. However I got 50mm fix, kit lens (17-55) and telephoto 70-300mm.

I agree 100% with timerollson: my stuff looks too "point-n-shotty"

upsguy27
Oct 20, 2008, 06:50 PM
Don't shoot me, guys! I have Canon XSI.. my first DSLR.. However I got 50mm fix, kit lens (17-55) and telephoto 70-300mm.

I agree 100% with timerollson: my stuff looks too "point-n-shotty"

Is it this one? (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B0012YA85A)

DFox
Oct 20, 2008, 07:17 PM
Is it this one? (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B0012YA85A)

yep!

SeVeN
Oct 20, 2008, 08:31 PM
Great guess! Actually the first one was taken in Mountain View

damn, i was gonna say either sunnyvale or santa clara (close enough) on the first pic. El Camino?

sangosimo
Oct 20, 2008, 08:40 PM
rule of thirds and depth of field; combine those things with photoshop and people will think you are ansel adams

ChicoWeb
Oct 20, 2008, 08:56 PM
After those first couple pics, I was starting to get scared where this thread was going.

SchneiderMan
Oct 20, 2008, 09:03 PM
just let me add, that girl is hot :D

DFox
Oct 21, 2008, 12:09 AM
damn, i was gonna say either sunnyvale or santa clara (close enough) on the first pic. El Camino?

El Camino and San Antonio

rule of thirds and depth of field; combine those things with photoshop and people will think you are ansel adams

Heh, so simple, however it requires years of practice.. I agree

just let me add, that girl is hot :D
Right! Now the thread turnes the direction which ChicoWeb was scared of :D

Daremo
Oct 21, 2008, 02:31 AM
"Girl, Bus stop, other:"

Hot girl at the bus stop, and the dumpy kid is checking out his own penis. :confused:

SchneiderMan
Oct 21, 2008, 03:03 AM
"Girl, Bus stop, other:"

Hot girl at the bus stop, and the dumpy kid is checking out his own penis. :confused:
lol i try not to look at him, the girl looks like megan fox no?

DFox
Oct 21, 2008, 09:11 AM
"Girl, Bus stop, other:"

Hot girl at the bus stop, and the dumpy kid is checking out his own penis. :confused:

he've got the wrong caliber :D

Bwa
Oct 22, 2008, 12:43 AM
El Camino and San Antonio

Arg, I haven't eaten at Chef Chu's in forever.

ManWithhat
Oct 22, 2008, 09:56 AM
All the less sharp images are due to improper expsure and wrong shutter times. Keep practicing! A lot of those are easy to fix in post-processing.

Like someone else said, work on composition. It's much more difficult to fix in post-processing.

fleshman03
Oct 23, 2008, 01:39 AM
just let me add, that girl is hot :D

"Girl, Bus stop, other:"

Hot girl at the bus stop, and the dumpy kid is checking out his own penis. :confused:

Totally hot!!!

I just needed to add this:

andrewdale
Oct 23, 2008, 09:25 AM
rule of thirds and depth of field; combine those things with photoshop and people will think you are ansel adams

Learn photoshop. That's all I've got to say.

Pictures can't be too cluttered. The audience looks at where you point them to look in the picture. You may have to crop something out later.

Learn color correction. Lighting correction. All those fun things.

Then, one day, learn to shoot in RAW. It's a lot of fun! :)

jv-iphone
Oct 23, 2008, 09:59 AM
Nice Shots, to make a good photograph, you have to learn basic photography principles like the rule of thirds, depth of field, those are great shots, but when you start to learn how to take pictures your pictures will be even better, add photoshop and you can create some amazing things.

These are with my Nikon D-50, HDR mode, and some photoshop dodging and burning, and adjustment layers.. (will be getting the D-90 for christmas :D)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/yankswn23/courts_hdr.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/yankswn23/DSC_0109.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/yankswn23/DSC_0369.jpg

sangosimo
Oct 23, 2008, 10:09 AM
enable to grid lines to help with composition.

zioxide
Oct 23, 2008, 10:35 AM
Learn photoshop. That's all I've got to say.

Bad advice. Photoshop can't make crappy photos good.

DFox
Oct 24, 2008, 12:57 AM
All the less sharp images are due to improper expsure and wrong shutter times. Keep practicing! A lot of those are easy to fix in post-processing.

Like someone else said, work on composition. It's much more difficult to fix in post-processing.

Most of my shots are taken "from hands" w/out tripod (or monopod). Len's IS does it's best, but still..
Thanks for the tip!

DFox
Oct 24, 2008, 01:00 AM
Nice Shots, to make a good photograph, you have to learn basic photography principles like the rule of thirds, depth of field, those are great shots, but when you start to learn how to take pictures your pictures will be even better, add photoshop and you can create some amazing things.

These are with my Nikon D-50, HDR mode, and some photoshop dodging and burning, and adjustment layers.. (will be getting the D-90 for christmas :D)


Wow! That's fantastrc! Really fantastic!

DFox
Oct 24, 2008, 01:01 AM
Totally hot!!!

I just needed to add this:

"Duhh, What's that?" :D:D:D

sangosimo
Oct 24, 2008, 07:36 AM
Bad advice. Photoshop can't make crappy photos good.

you must not have learned photoshop then.

wheelhot
Oct 24, 2008, 08:17 AM
Hot girl at the bus stop, and the dumpy kid is checking out his own penis.

Haha, yea and she do have a resemblance to Megan Fox.

Btw, congrats on your first DSLR, enjoy learning to use it :D

DFox
Oct 24, 2008, 02:10 PM
Haha, yea and she do have a resemblance to Megan Fox.

Btw, congrats on your first DSLR, enjoy learning to use it :D

Thanks! :apple:

DFox
Oct 24, 2008, 02:15 PM
I uploaded the original photo ("Megan" and a "smallprick guy") to my Flikr gallery (if you need it for your jokes in Photoshop):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/my300mm/2949814445/

:D

Perrumpo
Oct 24, 2008, 06:29 PM
DFox, I couldn't resist. Hope you don't mind...

wheelhot
Oct 25, 2008, 12:07 AM
DFox, I couldn't resist. Hope you don't mind...

Haha, classic. I wonder if that picture you posted might end up on Apple next ad?

CaptainCaveMann
Oct 25, 2008, 12:53 AM
Eh not impressed. I don't see the point in spending more than 300 for a camera. Unless your a professional. For a consumer it's just to bulky and expensive. :D

Abstract
Oct 25, 2008, 09:27 AM
Any of the photos taken in this thread so far could have been taken with any point and shoot, and that includes the HDR, which requires nothing more than Photoshop, or simple HDR software.

Please learn photography. Learning about your camera isn't going to help your photography more than good composition, interesting angles, and good timing. Photoshop won't help you with those things either.


you must not have learned photoshop then.

Sorry, but he was right. A bad photo can't be turned into a good photo, unless you're heavily manipulating it and are essentially creating something from scratch anyway.

Perrumpo
Oct 25, 2008, 09:49 AM
Any of the photos taken in this thread so far could have been taken with any point and shoot, and that includes the HDR, which requires nothing more than Photoshop, or simple HDR software.

Please learn photography. Learning about your camera isn't going to help your photography more than good composition, interesting angles, and good timing. Photoshop won't help you with those things either.

What, so if you can't take professional-quality photos, you shouldn't own a nice camera, in your opinion? How do you think a person learns and exceeds at things and becomes a pro? He said he JUST got the damn thing, so settle down. You act as though you're insulted by a non-pro having a DSLR. Guess what... he can do as he pleases and is allowed to practice before being perfect! :rolleyes:

Anyway, nice camera you have there, DFox. I'm looking forward to seeing some of your shots in the future, as I'd like to get a DSLR when I can afford it. Even besides the artistic possibilities with photography, a DSLR can simply yield such a superior image quality than your average consumer digital camera. Makes a significant difference when photographing horses, I can tell you - particularly when you have to zoom pretty far, because you can still retain the high quality.

DJMastaWes
Oct 25, 2008, 11:32 AM
Bad advice. Photoshop can't make crappy photos good.

this is great advice.
I've been masking my bad photos in photoshop for a while, and now that I'm doing film photography, it's shown me just how bad a photographer I am.

Learn the basic settings, like shutter speed, f-stop, ISO, ect and then you'll be able to play around with depth of field, ect.

Abstract
Oct 25, 2008, 07:02 PM
What, so if you can't take professional-quality photos, you shouldn't own a nice camera, in your opinion? How do you think a person learns and exceeds at things and becomes a pro? He said he JUST got the damn thing, so settle down. You act as though you're insulted by a non-pro having a DSLR. Guess what... he can do as he pleases and is allowed to practice before being perfect! :rolleyes:

I certainly didn't mean that.

In these types of threads, there are some posts by some users who say, "You should learn about photo. First learn about..... [Insert terms for very basic ideas related to photography with no mention of what they actually are]. See what a DSLR can do!!! [Insert example images]". The examples are always shown to illustrate the "awesome-ness" and power of a DSLR, and what types of images a DSLR are capable of shooting. Of course, this insinuates that a typical point and shoot camera couldn't have been used to create the same photo, which is wrong in most cases.


All I said was that good composition is going to make for a better, more interesting photo, which a good camera can't just give you. You can own a nice camera if you want. Anyone can if they have the money. There's always a benefit in terms of image quality itself as a technical thing. The pixels are "better". However, to get good photos out of it, he still needs to know what he's doing.

Does that really sound so wrong? :confused:

sangosimo
Oct 26, 2008, 09:42 AM
Eh not impressed. I don't see the point in spending more than 300 for a camera. Unless your a professional. For a consumer it's just to bulky and expensive. :D
the d40 is not that big and pro's spend way more then 300usd on bodies and lenses. The best thing about dslr is the ablity to switch lenses; a top range dslr and a d40 aren't really that far apart.

DFox
Oct 26, 2008, 10:55 AM
DFox, I couldn't resist. Hope you don't mind...

:D

jv-iphone
Oct 28, 2008, 09:17 AM
the d40 is not that big and pro's spend way more then 300usd on bodies and lenses. The best thing about dslr is the ablity to switch lenses; a top range dslr and a d40 aren't really that far apart. Well the thing you get in the higher end series, is more autofocus points, live view, sensor cleaning,High signal-to-noise ratio, betteer color meetering, less shooting lag for faster shutter speed..so you are pretty wrong and saying they arent that far apart, there are big differences, just every photographer doesnt need features in the high end cameras.

To me I believe the photographer can make the picture great, photoshop can make a great picture better, or worse depending on the artist. Here is a shot I took of my niece no photoshop involved just a great shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/yankswn23/2008%20ART/Macey.jpg

jv-iphone
Oct 28, 2008, 09:22 AM
Wow! That's fantastrc! Really fantastic!

Thanks, My father was a proffessional photographer, We had a darkroom in the house :D I learned alot of techniques you do in photoshop today in there (masking, dodge and burning etc.., the things he stressed to me was composition, you control where your subjects eye goes in the photo so that is one of the most important parts, exposure,lighting is really important as well however photoshop can help enhance or dull those areas.

bobfitz14
Nov 8, 2008, 02:54 PM
about the girl in the first picture...damn son

andrewdale
Nov 8, 2008, 06:25 PM
Well the thing you get in the higher end series, is more autofocus points, live view, sensor cleaning,High signal-to-noise ratio, betteer color meetering, less shooting lag for faster shutter speed..so you are pretty wrong and saying they arent that far apart, there are big differences, just every photographer doesnt need features in the high end cameras.

To me I believe the photographer can make the picture great, photoshop can make a great picture better, or worse depending on the artist. Here is a shot I took of my niece no photoshop involved just a great shot.

**img clip**

Yeah. There's a BIG difference between the D40/Rebel series and the D3/1Ds series cameras.

My wife shoots with a Nikon D300, 17-55/2.8, 50/1.8, and 105/2.8 Macro. And she's far from done. There's guys with THOUSANDS more dollars invested in it.

As far as Photoshop, yeah, it's great. But, too many people rely on it. Work your best to get the picture good in the camera, and use PS to tweak it -- not to make the picture.

Shoot in RAW/NEF is even better. Learn that and new doors will open wide like you've never expected.

Benefits of doing from a D40 to a D300?

Better High ISO Capabilities (Better in low light)
Faster Burst Mode
Studier Body/Build
And more... a lot more.

If you're going to get into it professionally, you've got to move up. And trust me, lenses never stop. :)

bobfitz14
Nov 9, 2008, 09:35 AM
DFox, I couldn't resist. Hope you don't mind...

hahah! clever

Shotglass
Nov 9, 2008, 01:37 PM
I've been masking my bad photos in photoshop for a while, and now that I'm doing film photography, it's shown me just how bad a photographer I am.Not true, but you're right about how shooting film helps a lot. That's why I started with an old, semi-manual camera. I wanted to learn from the ground up, without fancy technology doing the thinking for me.
Maybe this is the kind of practice the OP needs?