Apple to Preview iPhone OS 3.0 on March 17th

[CheesePuff]

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/12/iphone-os-3-0-is-coming-march-17th/

[CrzyCanuck72]

Sick. What OS 3.0 has in store will determine whether I stick with my iPhone or switch to a BlackBerry.

[Mobile923]

yea, my CNBC ticker just said the same thing just a min ago, except it stated March 15

[CheesePuff]

Well the 15th is a Sunday and the 17th is Tuesday so my guess is the 17th.

[Shackler]

Sick. What OS 3.0 has in store will determine whether I stick with my iPhone or switch to a BlackBerry.

3.0 will determine if i stick with my BB or go to the iPhone

[benflick]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

[Vandam500]

Awesome! Although its not coming out the 17th

"Apparently, we'll get a sneak peak at the new OS, as well as a look at a brand new version of the SDK.". Great news nonetheless!

Even better, March 17 is my birthday :D

[CheesePuff]

Awesome! Although its not coming out the 17th

"Apparently, we'll get a sneak peak at the new OS, as well as a look at a brand new version of the SDK.". Great news nonetheless!


Yea they added that after I made the thread, ha.

[Mobile923]

Well the 15th is a Sunday and the 17th is Tuesday so my guess is the 17th.

Good point. maybe my eyes need to be checked.

So 3/17 is just an announcement?

[synagence]

Apple have to hit a home-run with this one to knock it up another notch - BAM!

[redgaz26]

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Can't wait !!! Getting my new 24" iMac tomorrow and now this!!!!
I wonder when it's being released!!

[Vandam500]

Good point. maybe my eyes need to be checked.

So 3/17 is just an announcement?

Yes, here is an update from Engadget:

"Apple's calling this an "advance preview of what we're building," so we're not expecting anything ready to go as of the 17th, but hopefully this will allow developers to start building toward future functionality, and users won't have too much of a wait after that for the real deal."

[TheSpaz]

WOAH! This came out of nowhere! It's too bad we won't be getting anything March 17th though. :( They'll probably announce a bunch of stuff, not get it to work, then delay the release by 5 months or so. I just hope they don't wait until June to release it like they did with 2.0. That would suck. I'm tired of waiting for June for everything.

Also, cue all the Apple Rumor blogs... NOW! Any second now, every Mac Blog on the net will be posting this story.

[jaw04005]

Interesting. So, we're expecting 3.0 to ship in June along side a new iPhone. :)

[bigchief]

Somebody explain what 3.0 would or could do for the iphone.

[runplaysleeprun]

A happy paddy's day indeed!

[joelypolly]

well its my bday so i am happy either way

[Vandam500]

WOAH! This came out of nowhere! It's too bad we won't be getting anything March 17th though. :( They'll probably announce a bunch of stuff, not get it to work, then delay the release by 5 months or so. I just hope they don't wait until June to release it like they did with 2.0. That would suck. I'm tired of waiting for June for everything.

Also, cue all the Apple Rumor blogs... NOW! Any second now, every Mac Blog on the net will be posting this story.

Yeah! It's pretty stressing giving us a preview 3 months before release but hey, at least we know its coming:p

[synagence]

Somebody explain what 3.0 would or could do for the iphone.

Its an piece of software .... it could add any amount of functionality to the device

Search around and you'll find a large number of wish-lists for new functionality

[tiguk]

Somebody explain what 3.0 would or could do for the iphone.

One improvement:

Cut & Paste


And everyone will be happy.

[TheSpaz]

Yeah! It's pretty stressing giving us a preview 3 months before release but hey, at least we know its coming:p

Or at least we'll know what we'll get eventually. I'm still waiting for the promised push from last September. I'm almost a quarter of the way through my contract and my iPhone isn't living up to the expectation that Apple brought on with it's push theory.

[olternaut]

Smart move! A necessary move really. They are doing a preview and giving out the SDK now so devs will have time to show off some apps for June's WWDC.

Everyone cross their fingers for multitasking!
And yes............cut & paste.

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/12/apple-to-preview-iphone-os-3-0-on-march-17th/)

Engadget is reporting (http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/12/iphone-os-3-0-is-coming-march-17th/) that Apple will be hosting a media event on Tuesday, March 17th to demonstrate the iPhone OS 3.0, the next major upgrade to the iPhone operating system. Apple will reportedly also provide details on a new iPhone Software Development Kit (SDK) to aid developers in creating applications for the new operating system. Apple's calling this an "advance preview of what we're building," so we're not expecting anything ready to go as of the 17th, but hopefully this will allow developers to start building toward future functionality (hey, how about some push notifications?), and presumably users won't have too many months to wait after that for the real deal.Apple previously hosted a media event (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/03/05/live-coverage-of-iphone-sdk-roadmap-event/) in March 2008 to provide a "roadmap" for iPhone developers, and it appears that this upcoming event may follow a similar theme.

Article Link: Apple to Preview iPhone OS 3.0 on March 17th (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/12/apple-to-preview-iphone-os-3-0-on-march-17th/)

[TheSpaz]

One improvement:

Cut & Paste


And everyone will be happy.

Yeah right. You can't make everyone happy no matter what they add to the iPhone. They could add EVERYTHING that EVERYBODY wants, and then there would be people complaining that the iPhone does TOO much.

[tiguk]

Yeah right. You can't make everyone happy no matter what they add to the iPhone. They could add EVERYTHING that EVERYBODY wants, and then there would be people complaining that the iPhone does TOO much.

So true. :rolleyes:

[derryquinn]

Copy/Paaaaaaaaaaste!!! :D

[arnette]

Out of the blue...

[diamond.g]

Is Macrumors invited?

[fleshman03]

Somebody explain what 3.0 would or could do for the iphone.

Cause me to own one?


MMS
Push
Better Mail and other Apps.
Copy/Paste


Maybe some software to support some totally awesome new hardware? (10" screen?"

[Vandam500]

Or at least we'll know what we'll get eventually. I'm still waiting for the promised push from last September. I'm almost a quarter of the way through my contract and my iPhone isn't living up to the expectation that Apple brought on with it's push theory.

Push will definitely be the biggest/covered feature in 3.0

[Adokimus]

Copy & paste? Video recording? Picture msgs?

...or just stability improvements?

[BradClarke]

for the love of god, haha

-MMS
-Video Recording

I can Dream

[Scottsdale]

Anyone think we were all wrong to assume the 24th event was going to be "PRO" or SL Software related? Surely there aren't two events coming up?

I have to assume the 24th was moved up to the 17th and was always going to be iPhone 3 software and just nobody figured it out.

[earthandtone]

So will there be a new I-phone or just a new OS , I want an i-phone. DO i buy now or wait. I'm thinking wait.

[fleshman03]

So does anything think we'll see iPhone 3 (WTH are they going to call the next one?) before WWDC? Maybe in May?

[feakbeak]

Somebody explain what 3.0 would or could do for the iphone.
Cut and paste
Voice dialing
Push notifications
Background apps (somewhat hardware dependent at this point)
Updated built-in apps and OS features - could be anything

[jaw04005]

Like last year, they'll preview 3.0, but it will likely be released in June along side a new iPhone.

[alhasa]

oh yes.. this should be interesting:D

ps: i keep getting beaten to my elusive first post on a story.. you guys are quick! :eek:

[John Richard]

I would REALLY like to see some form of battery health meter similar to iStat for a MBP. I've noticed my battery is draining more so than in the past.

Also, it seems the "shuffle" part of the iPod function plays some tunes more than others. It's not really random.

[aznkid25]

Push Notifications!!

[AGSHender]

So will there be a new I-phone or just a new OS , I want an i-phone. DO i buy now or wait. I'm thinking wait.

Next week's event is about software only--iPhone OS preview, probably OS X 10.6 preview, and other software. I doubt any new hardware will be introduced.

I would expect a new iPhone revision in June, but I have no idea if they'll do anything to it except bump the capacity.

[mobilehavoc]

I'm waiting for them to promote Push Notifications like a new feature when it was promised for last September. They think we forget, we never forget ;)

[Eminemdrdre00]

I really hope this is true! Bring on push notifications!

[Hansii]

******* push notifications, multi-tasking FTW!

[fleshman03]

Maybe it has something to do with this (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10194816-94.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20)???


Also, anyone think we'll see the new iPhone (what will it be called? iPhone3?) before WWDC. Maybe May?

[TheSpaz]

I'm excited for another giant let-down! WOOHOO!

Apple: Over-promise, under-deliver!

[feakbeak]

My short-list of hopes for 3.0.

Copy and paste
Voice dialing
MMS support
Push notifications/background apps (at least on the new hardware)

[AnthonyCM]

I agree. They'll make the OS announcement now and release with a new phone in June (I hope). I'm still on the 1st gen phone, and I've been holding off until the next gen. Like a lot of others, I just want copy/paste, a better camera (video is nice, but I don't really care), and 32gb.

-anthony

[websyndicate]

I really hope safari is snappier

[Vandam500]

Maybe it has something to do with this (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10194816-94.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20)???


Also, anyone think we'll see the new iPhone (what will it be called? iPhone3?) before WWDC. Maybe May?

It is a pretty nice coincidence :p

[TheSpaz]

Like last year, they'll preview 3.0, but it will likely be released in June along side a new iPhone.

It sucks waiting for June... doesn't it?

[benflick]

This is unlike Apple to show a preview of firmware before a release. I'm used to having to wait.

[Jayomat]

lets see how many rate this negative :rolleyes:

[LagunaSol]

Apple better pull their collective heads out and address the shortcomings that have become downright embarrassing. They've had 2 years now - give us copy/paste, MMS, background notifications, etc. And where's the blasted turn-by-turn navigation app???

I love my iPhone, but the posers are crowding the rear view mirror (Palm, Google, MS) now. It's time for Apple to put the hammer down and leave these wannabes in the dust.

[AHDuke99]

Like last year, they'll preview 3.0, but it will likely be released in June along side a new iPhone.

Yes. This will probably be just like the preview last March.


The only thing I want to see from this is PUSH/background services. No excuse for that to have completely disappeared. I want some explanation as to why it never came out. IM apps are useless right now unless I have them send me SMS messages, and then it's just complicated. I've contemplated switching to a Blackberry recently because of some of the quirks the iPhone still has. This preview is HUGE as it will tell me if Apple is moving on to address the shortcomings or not. 2.0 was a big jump over 1.0, so I hope 3.0 is the same.

[Cander]

Better be some cool stuff for them to make an event out of it. I hope it doesnt turn out to be just Google Maps new features which seems to get more updates than anything else >.<

[TheSpaz]

I can't wait to NOT get the following:

Copy and Paste
MMS
Video Recording
Wide Screen Texting and Emailing
Custom SMS tones.

[pcm128]

Anyone think we were all wrong to assume the 24th event was going to be "PRO" or SL Software related? Surely there aren't two events coming up?

I have to assume the 24th was moved up to the 17th and was always going to be iPhone 3 software and just nobody figured it out.

The Pro apps (at least Final Cut Studio) are in line for an update soon anyway. My guess is that it'll be within the next few months.

My short-list of hopes for 3.0.

Copy and paste
Voice dialing
MMS support
Push notifications/background apps (at least on the new hardware)

I'm in agreement except for MMS. Apple seems to be promoting email (particularly MobileMe email) for this purpose, rather than allowing only the carrier to profit by supporting MMS.

[chameleon]

Like last year, they'll preview 3.0, but it will likely be released in June along side a new iPhone.

That's likely.

Also like last year, I hope the software is backward compatible with the 1st gen iPhone.

Unlike last year, I hope they introduce MMS and Copy & Paste. This is getting ridiculous.

[o0samotech0o]

hopefully the iPhone will turn into one of those multi-touch tables but smaller.

I like the UI, but it could be a lot better.

[Drumjim85]

This is unlike Apple to show a preview of firmware before a release. I'm used to having to wait.

no it's not, tell me what iphone OS wasn't previewed months before?

[damnyooneek]

Copy & paste? Video recording? Picture msgs?

...or just stability improvements?

some of those features but not all. Apple could have given all those features for the current 3g iPhone but purposely chose not to because what would they have to market with the next iPhone if they gave the consumers everything.

[grantsdale]

If 3.0 doesn't have the option to turn off the triple alert on text messages, I'm going to punch Steve Jobs in the face.

[powderblue17]

I'm excited for another giant let-down! WOOHOO!

Apple: Over-promise, under-deliver!

It should be more like

Apple Fanboys: Overhype and have wild fantasies

Apple: Deliver great stuff that could never live up to some fanboys wild dreams or made up rumors.

[jmann]

OMG!! I hope they introduce background notifications! I can't wait to hear all about this. :D

[Hattig]

Good timing for me, hopefully will be less busy at work that week.

They need to round out the features:

* Video recording
* MMS
* Copy and paste
* Push notification system

I also wouldn't mind the option for background applications, even in terms of low-memory daemons that only run when the phone is being used. I.e., you're in Safari, so the background IM application can also run. You shut down Safari and sleep the device, the IM application sleeps as well.

I actually expect we'll find out about some new APIs, the extension of iPhone OS into a more generic mobile OS (for tablet later this year), and so on.

[knightlie]

I'm excited for another giant let-down! WOOHOO!

Apple: Over-promise, under-deliver!

It's always unwarranted speculation that leads to what you call "under-delivering." You're only let down by your own expectations.

[LagunaSol]

Also, anyone think we'll see the new iPhone (what will it be called? iPhone3?) before WWDC. Maybe May?

Apple would be insane not to have a major hardware revision available for purchase the day 1st gen iPhone owners' 2-year contracts are expiring. Throw some cold water on Palm's Pre, Apple.

I'm holding on to my 1st gen model until there's new hardware to be had.

[benflick]

I think there should be some other features as well, maybe "extras" will sneak their way in, something new, unexpected.

[TheSpaz]

If 3.0 doesn't have the option to turn off the triple alert on text messages, I'm going to punch Steve Jobs in the face.

Take a video of that! Oh... wait..

[FearNo1]

Hopefully OS upgrade to touch is done as well.

[angemon89]

That's hawt

Push notification should be good, but won't it be limited on older iPhones with less memory/processor power? I imagine the next gen iPhone 2,1 will be able to handle the multitasking that comes along with push notification with a breeze.

[fleshman03]

This is unlike Apple to show a preview of firmware before a release. I'm used to having to wait.

I know!!!

Maybe.... They are going to actually release something? Talk about an iPhone with a 10"touch screen?

[TheSpaz]

It's always unwarranted speculation that leads to what you call "under-delivering." You're only let down by your own expectations.

Really? Push was just speculation? I didn't know. Thank you for that.

[Kilamite]

Looking forward to it!

Wonder what goodies we'll get/not get.

Wonder what features they'll remove just to annoy us.

[decsramble]

Top o the morning to ya, b'gorra I'm sure a March 17th announcement means all the bugs will be driven from the iPhone like the snakes driven out of Ireland before St Patrick. (I'm Irish, real Irish, born and living in Ireland, so I'm allowed to take the piss out of myself ;) )

Copy-Paste, and push notifications would be my top bets, then Flash and background apps and finally MMS and maybe turn by turn GPS.

[derryquinn]

This is unlike Apple to show a preview of firmware before a release. I'm used to having to wait.

They did it last year for 2.0, and before the release of iPhone in the beginning.

[arkitect]

Apple: Over-promise, under-deliver!

It sucks waiting for June... doesn't it?

I can't wait to NOT get the following


Take a video of that! Oh... wait..

Really? Push was just speculation. I didn't know. Thank you for that.

Hummm… I take it you're not really excited by this announcement?

:D:D

[derryquinn]

Top o the morning to ya, b'gorra I'm sure a March 17th announcement means all the bugs will be driven from the iPhone like the snakes driven out of Ireland before St Patrick. (I'm Irish, real Irish, born and living in Ireland, so I'm allowed to take the piss out of myself ;) )

Copy-Paste, and push notifications would be my top bets, then Flash and background apps and finally MMS and maybe turn by turn GPS.

IRISH TOO! HIGH FIVE!

BTW Ireland never even had snakes to begin with. Pretty easy for him to claim it was him who got rid of them :D

Now lets get to work on getting an Irish Apple Store, eh descsramble? :rolleyes:

[madmaxmedia]

While push and copy-paste are probably coming, I think this will be about a lot more than that. Those features are important but if it was just that it could have come in a regular update, not 3.0.

I think they will debut a re-worked interface that will one-up the Prie, and introduce better app management. The existing OS GUI came about when people only had the default apps on their devices (at least non-jailbroken units.)

[TheSpaz]

I think they're planning something HUGE for 3.0 and then it's gonna KILL US to wait until June.... June can't come fast enough already and they haven't even announced anything.

Also, if the Firmware is compatible with the iPhone 3G, it WILL be compatible with the first gen. Hardware-wise, they aren't very different. 3G is using the same processor speed and memory.

Hummm… I take it you're not really excited by this announcement?

:D:D

Sorry, I'm just used to being let down by Apple lately.

[kornyboy]

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I wonder if they plan to release the software with a new iPhone or if this will just be the next big jump fir the iPhone OS. Maybe they will make mention of a new iPhone at this event.

[nguyenvn]

i really hope they introduce a new way to categorize the apps or break the 9 page limit.

[nagromme]

Oh, no! Just a preview? But then, that does mean the change is a big one as I've been hoping. (No offense, OS 2.x.) I don't know what to feel :)

Please standardize the OS name better along the way. iPhone OS doesn't make sense on an iPod.

Mac OS X and Touch OS X?

[fleshman03]

Apple would be insane not to have a major hardware revision available for purchase the day 1st gen iPhone owners' 2-year contracts are expiring. Throw some cold water on Palm's Pre, Apple.

I'm holding on to my 1st gen model until there's new hardware to be had.

Yeah but for a 2-year-to-the-day release is still putting us in September...

March 15th is a rumored release date for the palm pre.......

[SydneyDev]

Snow Leopard is almost done - perhaps this is a transfer of some of that tech to iPhone OS.

[dazed]

hopefully multi tasking and push services. Until then my old blackberry 8700 with its cracked screen will do me just fine :)

[finalcut]

copy paste,
background run for last.fm to only name this app,
possibility to hide iphone icons

[Evangelion]

my one wish: opening of links in new tabs. And unlike c&p this is dead simple to implement: tap and hold and select "open in new tab"

[tbrinkma]

for the love of god, haha

-MMS
-Video Recording

I can Dream

Video recording, sure. Can't wait for that. But MMS? Hardly. Great, I can send text messages to someone with a *heavily* shrunk copy of a picture I took on my phone.

Phones in general support MMS images from 60x80 *UP TO* 320x240. That's it. .0048 MegaPixels to .0768 MegaPixels. In comparison to the original size of 2-5 MegaPixels. Seriously. How do you expect to actually send a useful copy of an image with that kind of shrinkage going on?

MMS is a hack best left to the past.

[dernhelm]

Maybe it has something to do with this (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10194816-94.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20)???


Also, anyone think we'll see the new iPhone (what will it be called? iPhone3?) before WWDC. Maybe May?

My favorite line in the story:
According to the Android development Web site, the changes introduced in the Cupcake branch have now been merged into the master branch.

They literally named a code branch the "cupcake" branch?

Wow. :eek:

[jzuena]

Hopefully OS upgrade to touch is done as well.

for a nominal $10 fee

[arkitect]

Yeah but for a 2-year-to-the-day release is still putting us in September...

Surely the US release was 29 June 2007?
Which would make that 2-year-to-the-day release sometime in June this year.

[anthonymoody]

Maybe I'm just a simple guy, but while I'd welcome the software improvements mentioned thus far in the thread (copy & paste, MMS, background notifications, video recording, etc.) I'm much more interested personally in new hardware. I'd like:

-an improved camera (at least 3.2MP) preferably with a flash
-HD screen
-802.11N

That's just me though :)

I know we won't likely hear about any hardware improvements on the 17th, but come June, I'd reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally like a great excuse to upgrade my 1st gen 8GB...

TM

[olternaut]

So will there be a new I-phone or just a new OS , I want an i-phone. DO i buy now or wait. I'm thinking wait.

Ya know.........I was gonna say in the other thread that they will just show the OS at this event and then the phone itself at June's WWDC. But now that I think about it the only thing of real importance to show off about the iphone is the OS itself.
So now I think that the iphone hardware along with the new OS will debut Mar 17th!!

What do you all think?

[Dual Pistolas]

I bet they take the controls off of the iPhone so you have to use the apple headphones.
:eek:

[weeman]

I'm excited for a new calculator icon!

[sundayx]

Touch owners get your wallets reaaaaaadddddddyyyyyyyyy

[fleshman03]

Surely the US release was 29 June 2007?
Which would make that 2-year-to-the-day release sometime in June this year.

I was going off the buyers guide. That says 9/07... Could be wrong.

EDIT: that was the ending of a 4gb version. It was June.

[Simplicated]

I bet they take the controls off of the iPhone so you have to use the apple headphones.
:eek:

Also the display on the headphones. :p

[talkingfuture]

This month keeps getting better, must be the busiest Apple have ever been!

[Chupa Chupa]

This is going to amount to a "whatever the Pre can do, we can do better" conference. We'll see if Apple really has become tone-deaf to consumer complaints on the 17th.

The even also serves as psy-ops to prep iPhone 2G owners for their obligatory upgrade to the iPhone 3G. June will be the 2 year anniversary and ATT/Apple wants us back on contract. I've got my money on the iPhone 3.0 not being compatible with the iPhone 2G.

[macrockbuddy]

PICTURE MESSAGING
&
NIKE +

that's all, please. . . oh and maybe a new iPhone

[SJD]

I'm quite sure Os 3 will support new iPhone hardware, mainly a higher resolution screen along with oft requested copy and paste.

[farmboy]

I'm excited for another giant let-down! WOOHOO!

Apple: Over-promise, under-deliver!

No, it's pretty much you over-expect. You guys--and you know who you are-- want the latest unreleased chipset operating at the highest possible clock speeds, with a thought-control UI and an antigravity case with a cloaking device and petabyte storage, all for less than you pay for a weeks worth of grande latte.

I'm convinced that nothing less will make you people happy.

[sampackham]

What is anyone expecting for the next hardware update? I can't see any features that other phones have that the iPhone doesn't. Software-wise, yes. And it could use performance boosts, but I don't see how they could reconcile that with keeping the App Store open to all platforms (i.e. IPT + iP 1-3G).

Any ideas?

[iSaga]

I really hope Copy & Paste is not included.

[christall109]

This is going to amount to a "whatever the Pre can do, we can do better" conference. We'll see if Apple really has become tone-deaf to consumer complaints on the 17th.

The even also serves as psy-ops to prep iPhone 2G owners for their obligatory upgrade to the iPhone 3G. June will be the 2 year anniversary and ATT/Apple wants us back on contract. I've got my money on the iPhone 3.0 not being compatible with the iPhone 2G.

Yea you are probably right...I just hope my parents will get the new iPhone as a graduation present for me when our contract ends in September. (I bought my 2g iPhone the day after the $200 price drop)

I really hope this OS doesn't break NetShare....

[ChrisA]

******* push notifications, multi-tasking FTW!

What was the name of that company Apple bought "xxx Semi" I think. I'm thinking that Apple may be making some muti-core ARM chips from use in phone and other tablet devices. Other devices like the one that will use those 10 ich screen Apple just ordered.)

Once you get more powerfull processors, that still use little power then you can have true multi tasking and you no longer need push notifacations. Although "push" is always smarter than polling.

For years I've always thought "asymetric" multi-core would be a good idea. That means one processor core is very powerfull and the second one quite small. You then power the cores up and down as best fits the demand.

I've only actually used one computer that had different kinds of cores mixed in the same box. It was a 40 year old CDC mainframe. It worked well we had 20 small 12-bit processors and 2 big number cruncher processors. Just waiting for this 1960's vintage ideas to be re-used in a cell phone.

Most people here are asking for user-facing GUI features in 3.0 but I'm guessing 3.0 will like Snow Leopard be mostly aimed at developers. With features like Grand Central and Open ML that let developers make use of asymmetric multiprocessing

[ltcol266845]

That means at the WWDC, 80% of the time won't be devoted to the iPhone, which means more room for Snow Leopard and the truly exciting stuff :)

But put me down for a faster iPhone 3rd-Gen... needs a significant hardware speed bump.

[iOrlando]

wow the events/products/rumors are really heating up here....

[Lepton]

I expect 1) Push. 2) A new effort to jailbreak-proof the system. This is not to prevent apps that do unsupported stuff like video recording, but to prevent piracy and competing app stores. 3) An announcement to developers that they should make sure that their apps support varying screen sizes. Why? I'm sure they won't say but it's for the NetPad, DUH! See my predictions on this here (http://www.myallo.com/blog/2008/12/apples-next-new-device/) (and I guess bump the screen size from 7.75" to 9.75).

In v3 we might also see long awaited stuff like video recording and maybe text to speech ala shuffle, and "Ink" support for um, future use. For far out predictions, I'd like to see speech to text, i.e. integrated voice dialing and stuff like iPod control by voice.

Copy and paste? Meh. Maybe, but I'd look for... Data Detectors!

[ramallite]

I have a feeling that this software is going to require a faster iPhone processor for its coolest features. Our current iPhones will still be able to use it, but some features may not be supported without faster or multi-core processors that are supposedly going into the next generation devices. I don't see how true multitasking will be missed-out on by Apple, yet our current devices really can't handle it very well.

I also predict that there will be a new home menu hierarchy, since there are so many apps out there that scrolling through window after window of app "launch buttons" is not efficient anymore.

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

then Flash and background apps and finally MMS and maybe turn by turn GPS.

Woah woah woah, slow down there young lad! :D LoL!

I'm excited to see what's not coming as well as some of you others.

[arkitect]

No, it's pretty much you over-expect. You guys--and you know who you are-- want the latest unreleased chipset operating at the highest possible clock speeds, with a thought-control UI and an antigravity case with a cloaking device and petabyte storage, all for less than you pay for a weeks worth of grande latte.

I'm convinced that nothing less will make you people happy.

Nope.
Not at all.
I just want copy-and-paste…

How is that over-expecting?

[derryquinn]

I'm excited for a new calculator icon!

Hahaha, thats brilliant!

[sampackham]

What was the name of that company Apple bought "xxx Semi" I think. I'm thinking that Apple may be making some muti-core ARM chips from use in phone and other tablet devices. Other devices like the one that will use those 10 ich screen Apple just ordered.)

Once you get more powerfull processors, that still use little power then you can have true multi tasking and you no longer need push notifacations. Although "push" is always smarter than polling.

For years I've always thought "asymetric" multi-core would be a good idea. That means one processor core is very powerfull and the second one quite small. You then power the cores up and down as best fits the demand.

I've only actually used one computer that had different kinds of cores mixed in the same box. It was a 40 year old CDC mainframe. It worked well we had 20 small 12-bit processors and 2 big number cruncher processors. Just waiting for this 1960's vintage ideas to be re-used in a cell phone.

Most people here are asking for user-facing GUI features in 3.0 but I'm guessing 3.0 will like Snow Leopard be mostly aimed at developers. With features like Grand Central and Open ML that let developers make use of asymmetric multiprocessing

PA Semi.

[CmdrLaForge]

Currently I am missing only very few funtionality like copy/paste and in mail I would like to see all my new messages at once and not have to go to each and every email account I have. Besides that - DON'T BREAK IT !:eek:

[Stridder44]

There is ZERO excuse for cut & paste and MMS to not be included by then.

[born4sky]

Damn Apples Learned how to hide everything, no leaks of 3.0 so far, so it will be real surprise

[iOrlando]

im guessing macrumors didnt get an invitation? you guys need to cozy up to apple some more...you have good live coverage for open apple events (at least in the beginning), but we need macrumors at the closed events.

[TheSpaz]

I really hope Copy & Paste is not included.

Reverse psychology? Nice.

I have a feeling that this software is going to require a faster iPhone processor for its coolest features. Our current iPhones will still be able to use it, but some features may not be supported without faster or multi-core processors that are supposedly going into the next generation devices. I don't see how true multitasking will be missed-out on by Apple, yet our current devices really can't handle it very well.

I also predict that there will be a new home menu hierarchy, since there are so many apps out there that scrolling through window after window of app "launch buttons" is not efficient anymore.

Why would Apple go ahead and leave the millions of 3G users out like that and also, why would they announce that they have faster iPhones coming. Most of the changes they need to make, are simple OS features... I don't think they need faster hardware for most of that stuff.

Nope.
Not at all.
I just want copy-and-paste…

How is that over-expecting?

Apple has had 2 years to give us copy and paste... why would they give it to us now?

[bbotte]

I would love updated Google maps, the pics are from 02-03 where I live.

[BenRoethig]

I'm looking forward to it. Apple's leadership may be on a power trip, but the OS guys always deliver.

[decsramble]

Woah woah woah, slow down there young lad! :D LoL!

I'm excited to see what's not coming as well as some of you others.
:D If you think about it Copy-Paste and push and many of the other features people want are really just 2.X releases, they could be released anytime. The only things I can think of that would truly require a new version of the OS are background apps and threading stuff.

derryquinn: A nice real Apple Store in Ireland would be great. The resellers just dont cut the mustard anymore, who do we have to lobby :)

[MarkMS]

3.0 will determine if i stick with my BB or go to the iPhone

Same here! I have a feeling that the biggest feature will just be push services. But then again the latest software build is at 2.2.1, so we could be looking at some mighty big features!

[kicko]

I 'd be cool with icon groups for apps. (like games, social, photo,etc.) would neaten up pages a bit when adding new apps.

[guitarliketom]

i just want my goddamn mms

[CrzyCanuck72]

Apple needs to add in basic basic smartphone functionality (most of which you can get through Cydia, but they should be made native):

- unified email inbox
- statusbar icons for new mail, texts, voicemail, etc.
- configurable notifications (customizable text and email sounds, configurable combinations of sounds, configurable repeat notifications, configurable vibration settings - basically take a page out of RIM's book)
- unified email inbox
- completely overhauled SMS app, with basic options like individual deleting and forwarding

Apple seems to miss the fact that a lot of people actually use their iPhone as a PHONE - and it's not much good as a phone when you can't do things your free Motorola did 8 years ago.

[born4sky]

Touch owners get your wallets reaaaaaadddddddyyyyyyyyy

lol

[plumbingandtech]

The Palm Pre's AWESOME TO THE MAX HTML and javascript "os" will make everyone want to dump their iphones.

Iphone OS 3.0 OR NOT!!!!!!



--Roger McNamee

[Tussen69]

I think we will see the following:


- A new-ish GUI - Like the UI when you went from Tiger to Leopard

- OpenCL - That will improve performance ...

- Copy & Past between native apps and 3:rd part app developer .
This will need to have some modifications to current apps but it will not be a huge amount of work for developers ..

- Push-Notifications ... bether late then never ...

- SMS Forwarding

- MMS (highly doubt it but it is possible)

Tought the current iphone is rather much the same as the original one except gsp and 3g ..
the hardware remains much the same ..
This 3Q Apple will possible release a new iphone that will take advantages of the iphone 3.0 software ..
and if so we then have possibilites like a FrontSide Camera for Video chat ..

and if Video Chat comes to iphone be shore that iChat will be released for Windows ...
iTunes/QuickTime vs MediaPlayer, Safari vs IE ... MSN vs .... iChat ofcourse ...

But the first and sec gen iphone will possibly have ichat with video watching instead
of watching/broadcasting (that would need a front side camera)

and why not "Grand Central"-ish on the iphone OS (if the new iphone will have multi-core)


but the one feature for games that is already on the iphone would be officialy support..
is TV-Out on App Store Games for all iphone models and ofcourse a keynote app with TV-OUT ...


That what I think ...

[Vandam500]

Yeah right. You can't make everyone happy no matter what they add to the iPhone. They could add EVERYTHING that EVERYBODY wants, and then there would be people complaining that the iPhone does TOO much.

ROFL. I don't think any product can be said to do "too much". There is always something that is missing :cool:

[arkitect]

Apple has had 2 years to give us copy and paste... why would they give it to us now?

I didn't say they will…

I just said that's all I am asking for.

;)

[TheSpaz]

I would love updated Google maps, the pics are from 02-03 where I live.

That's up to Google, not Apple. Also, they don't need a new firmware update to do that anyways because maps are not stored on the iPhone.

[pit29]

I want to be able to disable spell-checking! That, and push notifications, and I'm in. (To pay, that is, since I only got an iPod touch... :mad:)

[danielwsmithee]

My guess ... most of this will center around the OS now supporting higher resolution 10" displays and a demo of the new rumored device.

Of course on a device like that it will also need new features like copy/paste, background apps etc.

[jimchayts]

I really want to be able to see calendar invites (ics) from outlook with this release.

[NokX]

c'moooooooooon push notifications and MMS...

*rolls dice*

[MisterK]

-Updated GUI
-Copy/Paste
-TextExpander(ish) element
.... I just don't know

I'd actually be the most excited for a GUI update. I hope they do something to make the PRE look like Pre-school.

[iMacmatician]

So no event on the 24th? Or will there be two events, one right after the other (unlikely)?

Hopefully we'll see how this OS will work with the rumored mini-tablet.

[Lepton]

I believe the reason for this preview is to ask developers to allow for varying screen sizes, and to give them an SDK ASAP with support for the things they are demonstrating, so by the time a round of new hardware comes out, the App Store will already be full of apps that support it well.

The SDK already has very good support for varying screen sizes, though the apps themselves will surely need tweaking to handle it perfectly - I know mine will need a little! I expect there will more additions and system calls for that and much more, like maybe frameworks for push, video recording and pasteboards and the like.

[TheSpaz]

I want to be able to disable spell-checking! That, and push notifications, and I'm in. (To pay, that is, since I only got an iPod touch... :mad:)

Settings>General>Keyboard>Auto-Correct [ OFF ]

[kurosov]

Awesome! Although its not coming out the 17th

"Apparently, we'll get a sneak peak at the new OS, as well as a look at a brand new version of the SDK.". Great news nonetheless!

Even better, March 17 is my birthday :D

Same here! :eek:

Unfortunatly being half irish means i am not allowed to remember anything about that date.

[The Samurai]

Hmmmm.... there may be a possibility that the full version of the OS may be released at WWDC? Surely, Apple could have waited to give a 'preview' at WWDC but they may be plan on distributing it then?

[Tussen69]

An announcement to developers that they should make sure that their apps support varying screen sizes.

That is highly possible ...

[fleshman03]

My guess ... most of this will center around the OS now supporting higher resolution 10" displays and a demo of the new rumored device.

Of course on a device like that it will also need new features like copy/paste, background apps etc.

If they show the 10" device, I will wet my pants, jump up and down...

then I'll look at my bank account and wish I could afford it.

Then I'll buy it anyway.

1 day later I will feel horrible I bought it

2 weeks later I will love it so much that I'll hold onto it for years and years.

[Tones2]

By FAR the biggest software O/S thing that the iPhone needs is some type of FILE SYSTEM that's accessible by the user directly and not controlled and invisible like it is now.

I want to store ANY file on my iPhone, and have that transfer process controlled from within iTunes and not wirelessly. I want to see my files in the iPhone via a normal directory structure, and MOST IMPORTANTLY allow for apps to ACCESS those files so they can use and save in the common file areas. This is normal O/S functionality that Windows Mobile since inception has but the iPhone does not.

Tony

[ViViDboarder]

Apple would be insane not to have a major hardware revision available for purchase the day 1st gen iPhone owners' 2-year contracts are expiring. Throw some cold water on Palm's Pre, Apple.

I'm holding on to my 1st gen model until there's new hardware to be had.

Absolutely. I'm sure the next gen of iPhone will be out just in time for that! :D

As for features of 3.0? They should really get a better versioning system. We're only on 2.2 now!! I would expect 3.0 to be a reworking of the OS much as the jump from 1.x to 2.x. Also, the fact that this has to do with the SDK as well means there is something major coming up. This, I'm expecting, is going to be beyond the addition of another app, be it MMS, Video recording, landscape for Mail or even Push (as it has been included in the SDK before).

The most likely thing I've heard so far is the inclusion of background processes. It would be something requiring a core OS change as well as a change in the SDK.

Personally, asides from what ever direction they are going, I think they should take a look at all the features Cydia has provided JB users and learn that people want some of this stuff so bad they are hacking their phones for it... Apple should just install it themselves. Cut and Paste (if you can do it Simple enough), Video Recording, MMS, Landscape email/SMS, Replies from inside apps, Background processes, Notifications in the Status bar. Basic things that most people install when they Jailbreak would be nice to have for everyone so they don't have to. Best way to prevent people from Jailbreaking would be to give them no reason to want to. :D

[puffnstuff]

the ability to hook it up to a larger screen and be able to surf the web. FTW!

[Digipimp]

3.0 will determine if i stick with my BB or go to the iPhone

and it will decide for me if i stick with my iphone get rid of it for a nokia n810 and some cheap phone combo. i want push and real apps or im gone.

[probably]

This is unlike Apple to show a preview of firmware before a release. I'm used to having to wait.

They did this last year. In fact, literally a year ago in March. They showed the SDK and explained/demonstrated the App Store on 2.0 way before it was released.

[plumbingandtech]

the ability to hook it up to a larger screen and be able to surf the web. FTW!

And control it with the new bluetooth stack that can let the iphone control devices like a mouse!
:eek:

[olternaut]

I really hope Copy & Paste is not included.

I tells ya if copy & paste isn't included this time geeks all over will be rioting in the streets overturning cars and setting fire to storefronts.

It will be the apple fanboy version of the rodney king riots. For realz! :eek:

[Tones2]

Let's hope that all 2.x apps still work with 3.0!

Tony

[fleshman03]

By FAR the biggest software O/S thing that the iPhone needs is some type of FILE SYSTEM that's accessible by the user directly and not controlled and invisible like it is now.

I want to store ANY file on my iPhone, and have that transfer process controlled from within iTunes and not wirelessly. I want to see my files in the iPhone via a normal directory structure, and MOST IMPORTANTLY allow for apps to ACCESS those files so they can use and save in the common file areas. This is normal O/S functionality that Windows Mobile since inception has but the iPhone does not.

Tony

Agreed. I'd love preview to view/edit my PDF/ebooks on my iPhone.

It might sound dumb, but that is life changing to me.

[OS X Dude]

What will they add to the SDK? More abilities such as Push given to devs or a complete re-working of the SDK?

[probably]

the ability to hook it up to a larger screen and be able to surf the web. FTW!

That would actually be neat. Many times I want to 'show' something to friends with no way to really send it to a larger screen in the room.

[Harun]

Maybe I'm just a simple guy, but while I'd welcome the software improvements mentioned thus far in the thread (copy & paste, MMS, background notifications, video recording, etc.) I'm much more interested personally in new hardware. I'd like:

-an improved camera (at least 3.2MP) preferably with a flash
-HD screen
-802.11N

That's just me though :)

I know we won't likely hear about any hardware improvements on the 17th, but come June, I'd reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally like a great excuse to upgrade my 1st gen 8GB...

TM

If they did that with the camera I would get one. I don't have one now, been using a cheap pre-pay phone for years. The addition of a cool camera (quality) with flash would be enough for me to justify the monthly cost increase over my current phone.

[amac4me]

Let's hope that all 2.x apps still work with 3.0!

Tony

Yeah! Otherwise end users and app developers will be ticked!

[Eraserhead]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

Actually it's just like the desktop.

and it will decide for me if i stick with my iphone get rid of it for a nokia n810 and some cheap phone combo. i want push and real apps or im gone.

20000 not enough for you?

[madmaxmedia]

By FAR the biggest software O/S thing that the iPhone needs is some type of FILE SYSTEM that's accessible by the user directly and not controlled and invisible like it is now.

I want to store ANY file on my iPhone, and have that transfer process controlled from within iTunes and not wirelessly. I want to see my files in the iPhone via a normal directory structure, and MOST IMPORTANTLY allow for apps to ACCESS those files so they can use and save in the common file areas. This is normal O/S functionality that Windows Mobile since inception has but the iPhone does not.

Tony

I think there's a decent chance something like that will show up. There are now so many different apps, each with their own little file store and corresponding transfer method. There's no point for Apple to require each app to have its own 'island'.

[Tastic Bycrom]

That would actually be neat. Many times I want to 'show' something to friends with no way to really send it to a larger screen in the room.

It would be nice to actually have a use for that video cable I bought :-)

[Tussen69]

Whats most possible .. a netbook-ish device with iphone os 3.0 on it or a iphone with a higher display resolution (higher PPI) like iPhone HD ??

imo i think iPhone have more then enough Pixel Per Inch for a mobile device ..

[oTaRu]

i wish there will be normal sms functions such as forwarding and copy & paste... not forgetting mms function too...

[Kar98]

Somebody explain what 3.0 would or could do for the iphone.

Copy and Paste.
Also multi-media messaging, synchronizing of Notes, iCal, Address Book, Mail between the phone and your computer.
Recording video.
Turn by turn voice guided sat nav.
3rd party apps don't have to be approved by Apple anymore.


:D:D:D:D

Right.

[Tastic Bycrom]

I'd be happy with landscape email and a safari update. That's not asking too much, is it?

[plumbingandtech]

20000 not enough for you?

My reaction too. Except they are up to 27,000 apps or so.


Some people are never satisfied, apple, just keep doing what you are doing, there is always a palm pre for the never-satisfieds....

[gmanrique]

Think about this, when the iPhone came out 2 years ago it was years ahead of the competition. It was missing things like:

-Video recording
-Voice Dialing
-MMS
-Copy and paste
-Background applications*
-GPS turn by turn
-A Push notification System of sorts*

These things, expect for the ones marked with a *, are sort of trivial as something that a regular software update can take care of.

These features should be a given in the new iPhone OS. It is already there, or just coming, from the competition. The real question is, does Apple have something else to move the bar a little higher? I certainly hope so, if not, it would look like they are playing catch-up.

BTW, this is not some sort of unrealistic expectations just to have something to complain about later. The fact that the iPhone currently lacks these features doesn't make them innovative, ground breaking or mind blowing. It is just what it is. I can tell you before the announcement next week, if only these features are announced, it would be ok news, thats it. If they don't even announce these, it would be a let down. Just my personal opinion.

While push and copy-paste are probably coming, I think this will be about a lot more than that. Those features are important but if it was just that it could have come in a regular update, not 3.0.

I think they will debut a re-worked interface that will one-up the Prie, and introduce better app management. The existing OS GUI came about when people only had the default apps on their devices (at least non-jailbroken units.)

[ilfn143]

can't wait for quickpwn 3.0

[anti-microsoft]

Cool! I hope it supports 1st generation iPod touches :fingers crossed:
I wonder if they'll update the UI... I doubt it....
To-do, notes syncing? iDisk support? More widgets by default (Converter, Translator, Ski report, Nike+, Movies, Dictionary, Flight tracker)?

Ams.

[dlewis23]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

They have to give time for developers to learn what's new.

From the way it sounds its going to be a pretty big change so it takes time for developers to learn and make apps for it.

I would expect, video recording, copy & paste, MMS, push notification and changes underneath to makes things faster and smoother.

[ztigerpaw]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

They did it with Leopard, and those are always fun to watch. :p

[ghostface147]

Safari has been incredibly stable for me and hasn't crashed once since the latest update. I hope whatever they do doesn't break it. Also, let's hope 3.0 isn't as broken as 2.0 was. I think everyone else covered what they would like. I would be happy with landscape keyboard in all Apple apps.

[admanimal]

As a developer, the thing I am hoping for the most is for Apple to provide a way for users to sync files created in apps on the phone with their desktops via iTunes, and to make wherever those files are stored on the desktop easily accessible to the user as well (i.e. not in one gigantic iPhone backup file that you can't really get into).

[Digipimp]

20000 not enough for you?

i guess by your logic as long as you've got a lot of something it doesnt matter if they're any good

[tropic10]

By FAR the biggest software O/S thing that the iPhone needs is some type of FILE SYSTEM that's accessible by the user directly and not controlled and invisible like it is now.

I want to store ANY file on my iPhone, and have that transfer process controlled from within iTunes and not wirelessly. I want to see my files in the iPhone via a normal directory structure, and MOST IMPORTANTLY allow for apps to ACCESS those files so they can use and save in the common file areas. This is normal O/S functionality that Windows Mobile since inception has but the iPhone does not.

Tony

I would be surprised if Apple implemented this. They ridiculed Windows Mobile for including a task manager.

[ipoddin]

Sick. What OS 3.0 has in store will determine whether I stick with my iPhone or switch to a BlackBerry.

For me it will determine whether I ditch the iphone for a Pre

[dant19]

Does anyone remember a few months back, apple filed that patent about the new "locked screen"?

If they implement push notifactions, obv there are going to be more notifications, so the "locked screen" would start to get crammped, i.e. with text messages, missed calls, voice messages, IM's etc.

If I remember rightly, the plan was to give the "locked screen" some sort interactivity, so you can select on of the notifications and go straight to that app, i.e. an IM, text etc. obv after unlocking it.

That could be part of the update to the OS, that'd be pretty major and warrant the 3.0 status (along with push).

Just a thought

[instaxgirl]

Also, it seems the "shuffle" part of the iPod function plays some tunes more than others. It's not really random.

I've noticed that too, gets old fast when you've only stuck a couple of gigs of music on it.

So, my big question is is it likely that the iPhone 2G'll be supported? If they finally put in the basics (cut&paste, mms etc etc etc) and drop support . . .

[Eraserhead]

I would be surprised if Apple implemented this. They ridiculed Windows Mobile for including a task manager.

All they'd be doing is bundling FileManager or another similar app.

[ilfn143]

Does anyone remember a few months back, apple filed that patent about the new "locked screen"?

If they implement push notifactions, obv there are going to be more notifications, so the "locked screen" would start to get crammped, i.e. with text messages, missed calls, voice messages, IM's etc.

If I remember rightly, the plan was to give the "locked screen" some sort interactivity, so you can select on of the notifications and go straight to that app, i.e. an IM, text etc. obv after unlocking it.

That could be part of the update to the OS, that'd be pretty major and warrant the 3.0 status (along with push).

Just a thought

push coming in september, it's only march... ;)

[macrockbuddy]

Am I the only 1 that REALLY REALLY wants Nike+ to come to the iPhone. I know it's a hardware thing so it'd have to be a product refresh but come on, I dont want to shell out another $225 for an iPod wen I have bought 3 iPhones already. Anyone with me. . .?

[mathcolo]

It would be sweet if OS 3.x would allow the user to connect an external keyboard so you could actually use the Mail application for real purposes :rolleyes:

[dant19]

push coming in september, it's only march... ;)

The OS 3.0 isn't coming in march, simply previewing - i guess so dev's can implement the new features (like oush).

What are u basing the sept release on anyway? I thought last year was june (2.0) with the new iphone?

[jaw04005]

MMS I could care less about (I think it'll be phased out in a few years anyway in favor of push email), but cut and paste is a must.

[Eraserhead]

i guess by your logic as long as you've got a lot of something it doesnt matter if they're any good

are you seriously saying there aren't lots of good apps?

Personally I regularly use Currency, Fieldrunners, Solebon, Wordpress, removem and all of them except Wordpress (which is crasholicious) are good.

[nfl46]

I cannot wait.

I'm sure we won't get 3.0 until June/Julyish when the new iPhone comes out, but hey, June is 3 months away...thats not long at all.

[Eraserhead]

push coming in september, it's only march... ;)

That was September 2008 though ;).

[JayLenochiniMac]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

One reason--to keep prospective customers from locking themselves into other carrier's contract. There are already members here who are willing to switch to the iPhone based on what 3.0 would do.

Apple announced the iPhone well ahead of its debut for this reason also.

[syclick]

Next week's event is about software only--iPhone OS preview, probably OS X 10.6 preview, and other software. I doubt any new hardware will be introduced.

I would expect a new iPhone revision in June, but I have no idea if they'll do anything to it except bump the capacity.

I would think that they will make at least some changes to the hardware, if not major ones... While I feel that the iPhone is still unrivaled, the competition has been getting more and more attractive. IMO, if Apple only bumps the capacity, they risk falling behind.

Besides, I want my AMOLED iPhone... Well, hey, a guy can dream, can't he?

[plumbingandtech]

i guess by your logic as long as you've got a lot of something it doesnt matter if they're any good

:rolleyes:

Right..... 27K apps, none of them good....

:rolleyes:

[Manderby]

I can almost hear it:

---
We listen very carefully to our customers and what do they want the most?
1. Push-Notifications (everybody applauses!)
2. Improved Apps (everybody cheers!)
3. Copy/Cut and Paste (everybody screams!)
4. MMS (The audience almost makes itself wet!)

Well, we cover all those features in the new Version 3.0. (5 minues of loud screaming, standing ovations)

but we do it Apple-Style. (the audience freezes)

1. Push: We provide a Server, only costs 1$ per service.
2. Improved Apps: You can now choose, if you want the keyboard on top or on bottom.
3. Copy/Paste: We got something much better: We automatically detect, what you might want to copy and do it for you and send you directly to the website you might want to go. It really works surprisingly well.
4. MMS: We developed a new Protocol: AMMS (Apple-MMS), where you can send MMS via email.

(the audience left the building)
---

SCNR :p

[Peace]

My guess ... most of this will center around the OS now supporting higher resolution 10" displays and a demo of the new rumored device.

Of course on a device like that it will also need new features like copy/paste, background apps etc.

Last March didn't Apple show more than just the iPhone O/S ? Didn't they also show off the new iPhone 3G ? Am I wrong ?

If I'm right I'm guessing with all this rumormongering about a 10" touch display Apple may surprise us and show this "Tablet" device with it being available in June.

Or they will give us a sneak peek at Snow Leopard. March 17th is about the right time for another dev seed.

iTunes-X

[WildCowboy]

Last March didn't Apple show more than just the iPhone O/S ? Didn't they also show off the new iPhone 3G ?

Nope, all we had were rumors (and leaks) about what the iPhone 3G would look like right up until the demo at WWDC in June.

[Pika]

cut & Paste !!!

[wheezy]

Are the same 3 people posting the same posts over and over again on here? Geeees. Yeah, there are features I want, but pleeeeease remind yourself that the iPhone, even as it is, is a technical marvel that to me makes every other phone out there a joke.

MMS - Yes, this is a given, make it happen

Video Recording - Cycorder looks great, but I fear the problem that apple doesn't like is the slight wavy problem which is a hardware issue with how the camera takes pictures. Sadly, Apple won't settle for a decent video camera, they want a perfect. I'll sacrifice perfect for decent.

Copy/Paste - Outside of Macrumors, I really doubt this is such a big deal. And I swear about 80% of you just complain about it because it's the cool bandwagon to be on

Voice Dialing - Call ATT and scream your head off for that one, ATT charges an extra monthly fee for that feature

Push - Similar to copy/paste, most people could care less

Here's the thing.... I don't think we know what we want, Apple has historically had great foresight to consumer trends and wants that we don't even see at present. I wouldn't expect a media even to announce the supposed 'needs' that people complain about on here, I would expect an announcement similar to the App Store, something that changes the face of Cell Phone uses yet again. The way everyone on here complains just makes me so sick, pull the stick out of your own butt before you try to pull the one out of Apples.

[dizzy13]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

Same as last time or did I miss something?

Like last year, they'll preview 3.0, but it will likely be released in June along side a new iPhone.


Also, anyone think we'll see the new iPhone (what will it be called? iPhone3?) before WWDC. Maybe May?

Everyone keeps calling it the 4G which pisses me off for some reason, it really shouldn't. I think iPhone 3 makes sense, but they won't do that because it will get confused with the iPhone 3G. I'm thinking they will give it a specific name or iPhone 3g 2

[danuff]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

But, how do we know that Apple WILL or WILL NOT release 3.0 on or a few days after the 17th?

[iSimx]

This is fantastic news! looking forward :p

[feakbeak]

I'm in agreement except for MMS. Apple seems to be promoting email (particularly MobileMe email) for this purpose, rather than allowing only the carrier to profit by supporting MMS.I prefer email to MMS as well, it's a better solution ultimately. However, not everyone has iPhones and when I receive a MMS message from others I'd like to be able to view it without having to jump through hoops. It's not rocket science, it's just Apple digging in their heals over their ideals of how tech should work, even when it hinders their customers. I agree with their stance but it is still something customers want.

Though, out of my original list if I had to pick one feature NOT to make it, it'd be MMS. Voice dialing and copy/paste are two that I really want. Push notifications/background apps will change the nature of apps on the iPhone, so that is exciting but it has partly been a hardware limitation so I'm understanding of that. The copy/paste and voice dialing are ridiculous though, I'm amazed the iPhone is coming up on two years in the market without these basic features.

[macrockbuddy]

oh and wat about printing. It could be very useful if the iPhone could wirelessly connect to printers. That would just be a software upgrade right?

[indigo144]

Wow, only one post in 200 vaguely hints at the netbook! I though this is MacRumors?

One could speculate that the recent leaks about a possible netbook with dramatically enhanced iPhone OS could have forced Apple's hand in revealing this before The Steve gets back.

Whats most possible .. a netbook-ish device with iphone os 3.0 on it or a iphone with a higher display resolution (higher PPI) like iPhone HD ??

imo i think iPhone have more then enough Pixel Per Inch for a mobile device ..

[abhimehr]

New h/w in June..... will someone break this suspense already ?

[pkoch1]

I would love updated Google maps, the pics are from 02-03 where I live.

Yeah, tell apple's satellites to stop being so lazy and take some new freaking pictures already!
:rolleyes:

[impact_blue]

The PALM probably scared Apple into previewing OS 3.0, something that they wouldn't normally do. Apple know it's software, not hardware that's gonna keep them on top so I'm expecting something that would totally trump The Palm Pre OS.

[Jacksteruk309]

Some people seem to be confused at why Apple is showing a preview of a new product. The reason they need to show something like this off before releasing it is so that developers can get going on it and have some interesting things ready into for the public release.

[danuff]

So will there be a new I-phone or just a new OS , I want an i-phone. DO i buy now or wait. I'm thinking wait.

Just a new OS....New iPhones don't usually come out until June.

Dan

[yegon]

Very good, although I won't touch it until 3.1+ is eventually upon us.

While there's things that I'd obviously like improved, 2.2.1 is pretty stable. In fact, it was the very first version for me that didn't crash Safari or Digg style apps on a very regular basis. Still does occassionally, but not enough to annoy.

[benflick]

But, how do we know that Apple WILL or WILL NOT release 3.0 on or a few days after the 17th?

They WILL NOT release 3.0 on or a few days after the 17th. What would be the purpose of even having a preview?

[stockcerts]

3.0 will determine if i stick with my BB or go to the iPhone

I think you guys should switch.

[Saladinos]

Wow, only one post in 200 vaguely hints at the netbook! I though this is MacRumors?

One could speculate that the recent leaks about a possible netbook with dramatically enhanced iPhone OS could have forced Apple's hand in revealing this before The Steve gets back.

Apple's hand doesn't get forced by leaks, because then the terrorists win.

Also, I doubt Apple will release a netbook with an OS called "iPhoneOS". They'd give it it's own name, or it'd just be confusing.

[dizzy13]

The PALM probably scared Apple into previewing OS 3.0, something that they wouldn't normally do. Apple know it's software, not hardware that's gonna keep them on top so I'm expecting something that would totally trump The Palm Pre OS.

They did the same thing last year, why does everyone think this is out of the norm.

They WILL NOT release 3.0 on or a few days after the 17th. What would be the purpose of even having a preview?
Yeah, exactly. They will discuss it and it will come out when the 3rd gen iPhone is released in July 17th (or whenever it is actually released :D)

[ipoddin]

But, how do we know that Apple WILL or WILL NOT release 3.0 on or a few days after the 17th?

The preview is for developers to get a look at what's coming in the OS and SDK. They wouldn't release it shortly afterward before said developers had a chance to begin working with it.

And the other benefit is to keep current users hopefully from switching to other devices and also attract new users.

My guess is OS 3.0 will come in June with a hardware revision.

[dwman]

BGR is reporting 3.0 will have:

* MMS
* Tethering via Bluetooth and USB


http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/12/apple-iphone-30-os-event-march-17th-we-got-some-info/

[macaco74]

Hopefully OS upgrade to touch is done as well.

That'll be $19.99

[Turmoil]

This ones really no big WOOP to me. I'm pretty happy with the iphone as it is. Most of the requests I see don't matter to me, I could care less about MMS or copy and paste. I would be pleased with being able to background at least a few apps (the radio apps anyway). But overall the iphone does everything I want out of a pocket/portable device.

[Luscious]

I'm with those who say 3.0 and the next set of hardware will determine if I stick with the iPhone. On the software side I want copy and paste, the ability to record and save videos (if it requires a new handset to get the functionality I'm fine with that as I plan to buy a new phone this summer anyway), MMS, the ability to forward both MMS and SMS messages (I could live without SMS forwarding if copy and paste works well) and the ability to teather the phone for Internet access (I don't care how it's implemented .. USB, Bluetooth and/or WiFi are all fine with me). Flash support would be nice (with the ability to shut it off) but it's not a deal breaker.

On the hardware side I want at least a 3 MP camera. The lack of a flash wouldn't be a deal breaker but I'd sure like to have it.

I love the iPhone but I'm tired of not being able to do some of the basic things that other much lesser phones can do. The lack of these features was acceptable when the phone was first released given the nature of the device and the promise that additional features would be added. Two years later and there is no longer any excuse.

[LiveCrunch]

Ill be posting all live blogging and video streaming sites about the iPhone 3.0 OS, you can see now already the real time news tweets about iPhone 3.0

Here:
http://tinyurl.com/d9htom

[Peace]

Some people seem to be confused at why Apple is showing a preview of a new product. The reason they need to show something like this off before releasing it is so that developers can get going on it and have some interesting things ready into for the public release.

I understand this concept but why have an event and invite the media ?

What.. To show off MMS and copy/paste ? Seems like a bit of overkill to me unless they have something else to talk about.
Last year they had a lot to show off. The App store,games etc.

What else is there?

[gkarris]

Interesting. So, we're expecting 3.0 to ship in June along side a new iPhone. :)

Probably just the 16 Gig ($199) and 32 Gig ($299) versions...

[gianpan]

BGR is reporting 3.0 will have:

* MMS
* Tethering via Bluetooth and USB


http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/12/apple-iphone-30-os-event-march-17th-we-got-some-info/

they better do way more than this, MMS is so 4 years ago!

[RoboCop001]

Ive "I've totally redesigned the iPhone. It's.... well, we wanted to... uhh... we wanted to REALLY get the message across that it's simple. Just. Plain. Simple. To. Use. I think... that when you have simplicity... combined with such beautiful design, gorgeous... so incredible and ... just... just wow, you get something so ..mm.... sooo dramatically different, you know? You get something ... revolutionary. And that's really... that's really what we're trying to do here with the new iPhone."

Interviewer "So can you describe the new design?"

Ive "It's beyond words, really. It's.... god it's beautiful.... we really...hmm... we really pushed our limits this time. I mean, everything from the touch-sensitive shape-changing Home button, to the way the back curves in 3 different places to just perfectly, just absolutely ... astonishingly perfectly, fit in the palm of your hand."

Interviewer "What?"

Ive "Oh god it's incredible. I mean when it came together... I cried. It was so... it was a revolution in your hand, that's what it felt like... a revolution in your hand."

Interviewer "Can you describe the .... you know what, we're just gonna move on... now what about the secure unlocking mechanism? I heard people thought the simple number pad was too easily broken. What have you come up with to contest that?"

Ive "Oh, we've just come up with this... brilliant.. incredible, beautiful way to secure unlock your phone... it's incredible. It's amazing. It's going to make your eyes tear up and cry tears. You see, at first we thought, maybe we add another number pad after the first sequence is entered. But now you're going to find out that you need 3 different slides. But here's the thing... and it's really very revolutionary... here's the thing.... It's really one slide, but the slide changes shape when in different temperatures. So you need to get the 3 specific shapes by going to different temperature rooms to secure unlock your phone. Brilliant."

Interviewer "So like the card keys in metal gear solid."

Ive "Snake is my hero, really. He's simple, very well designed, and... well really, he's revolutionary. He really is. And this time around I think we've made the iPhone a truly real revolution in your hand. Really. Revolutionary. It's.... oh, it's something, alright."

Interviewer "Alright.... thanks for your time."

Ive "I'm not done, I have to tell you about the new mute switch!"

Interviewer "And what an amazing feat that was, thanks for the interview!"

[gkarris]

Hopefully, they'll make it work fine also on the new 10" Tablet (iPad?).


:D

[str1f3]

if steve isn't coming back until june, who is going to give the announcement?
very weird. i would have expected steve to give it. i get a feeling that is part of the reason for the announcement. that and the two year contracts that are ending for 1st gen iphones.

hopefully this is as beautiful or more so than the pre os. i want to see something revolutionary if they're going to do this out of nowhere with 5 days notice. it seems apple is very eager to show off the new os.

if apple is showing the iphone os this early then that means that snow leopard will be the star of the show at wwdc.

please apple don't dissappoint !!!

[Ping Guo]

are you seriously saying there aren't lots of good apps?

Personally I regularly use Currency, Fieldrunners, Solebon, Wordpress, removem and all of them except Wordpress (which is crasholicious) are good.

I would say the majority of free and $1-$2 apps suck. Or they are OK to play with for a couple hours but end up getting deleted soon after. And I'm not the only one:

California, February 23: Scrutiny of above 30 million downloads from Apple’s App Store by Pinch Media has revealed that only 30 percent of people who purchase an iPhone application essentially use it a day after it is bought.

Moreover, the numbers further drop to less than 5 percent 20 days after the users download an application. The decline is even more prominent in case of free applications.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/19/pinch-media-data-shows-the-average-shelf-life-of-an-iphone-app-is-less-than-30-days/

Let's see the lessons learned from SL development applied to the iPhone OS: leaner, faster, smarter. Less eye candy and "look what we can do with GPS" junk and more focus on the stability and usability of core features.

Wish list:

Landscape text and email
Contacts search
Copy and paste!
Faster web browsing/improved wifi

[rez07]

Current hardware can do so much more... 128mb of RAM, like the competition shows, should be enough for true multitasking, no need for a new iphone

So i hope they really are revamping the OS completely, besides adding all the stuff missing

Hope 3.0 will be like this

http://www.najle.com/idaft/

:D

[sl1200mk2]

The new 3.0 software + hardware in July better be an absolute stunner otherwise I'm off to get a Pre. I love the iPhone device itself, but ATT's sub-par performance makes me long for Sprint again which was always very good for me. I rocked a Treo 650 on Sprint for several years and had no problems with them at all. The Pre is one sexy looking device and Apple definitely has some competition to keep them on their toes.

Apple -- you need to wow me like you did with iPhone 1.0!

[TheSpaz]

Does anyone remember a few months back, apple filed that patent about the new "locked screen"?

If they implement push notifactions, obv there are going to be more notifications, so the "locked screen" would start to get crammped, i.e. with text messages, missed calls, voice messages, IM's etc.

If I remember rightly, the plan was to give the "locked screen" some sort interactivity, so you can select on of the notifications and go straight to that app, i.e. an IM, text etc. obv after unlocking it.

That could be part of the update to the OS, that'd be pretty major and warrant the 3.0 status (along with push).

Just a thought

Good point. I forgot about that one.

The PALM probably scared Apple into previewing OS 3.0, something that they wouldn't normally do. Apple know it's software, not hardware that's gonna keep them on top so I'm expecting something that would totally trump The Palm Pre OS.

Apple did this same exact thing last year... before anyone knew about the Pre. They preview BIG software updates, but small ones are just released when they're released. Apple does the same thing with Mac OS X releases. They ALWAYS show off the next big upgrade before they ship it.

[bruinsrme]

MMS I could care less about (I think it'll be phased out in a few years anyway in favor of push email), but cut and paste is a must.

What I love most is when friend sends an MMS messge from their $40 phone and then when I see them ask if I got it.

remind me again why we can't get MMS as a standard feature on the iphone? Is it because one day in the future something will replace email, MMS, and texting?

for me 3.0 needs to blow my socks off. August is my break even point between ETFs and the 3 phone resell values.

[richmonddjs]

I see some have stated a charge:mad: for touch users to update (2 in the immediate family here), for some reason that if it is so great, I bet there will probably be a charge to upgrade to 3.0 for the iphone too. :mad:

[BTW]

Somebody call the fire department. Apple is on fire! :eek:

They've definitely been on a big spree of releasing some good products.

Now let's see who hosts this Apple media event. ;)

[sam10685]

Very good, although I won't touch it until 3.1+ is eventually upon us.

I'm doing the ssame with Safari 4... that sounds beyond excellent but I'm going to wait for them to update the update. (I also will probably get a new computer.)

[Peace]

Somebody call the fire department. Apple is on fire! :eek:

They've definitely been on a big spree of releasing some good products.

Now let's see who hosts this Apple media event. ;)

Scott Forstall (http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/forstall.html)

[olternaut]

The PALM probably scared Apple into previewing OS 3.0, something that they wouldn't normally do. Apple know it's software, not hardware that's gonna keep them on top so I'm expecting something that would totally trump The Palm Pre OS.

I concur wholeheartedly.

While the average apple fanboy will defend Apple to his last keystroke, and try to flame a competitor's tech no matter HOW good it is, I betcha Apple took notice of the WebOS.
In fact, if Apple was smart (and I believe that they are) they should have downright freaked when they saw what Palm's WebOS could do. Apple now has to beat Palm to the punch and debut their own next gen multi-tasking mobile OS that is simply superior to all of the competition.

Steve Jobs and Apple will settle for nothing less!

[str1f3]

Good point. I forgot about that one.



Apple did this same exact thing last year... before anyone knew about the Pre. They preview BIG software updates, but small ones are just released when they're released. Apple does the same thing with Mac OS X releases. They ALWAYS show off the next big upgrade before they ship it.

the big and main difference this year is that steve won't give it. people wouldn't be surprised if apple gave this announcement this early if steve would give it. most would have assumed that they would want to wait for steve to give it when he comes back in june.

[bboucher790]

I highly doubt we'll have to wait for the new iPhone to be released. Apple learned their lesson last time releasing 2.0 alongside the 3G. Not only did they have to deal with a huge product launch (with tons of issues), they had to get their software working correctly...which took months.

To me, this sounds like they are aiming to release 3.0 ahead of the new iPhone, so that when the device is released, a stable software platform will be available. My 2 Cents.

[firewood]

I can't wait to NOT get the following:

Copy and Paste
MMS
Video Recording
Wide Screen Texting and Emailing
Custom SMS tones.

Congratulations. Your guess is likely the most correct one here. Apple would not have a developer press conference for Cut & Paste. So it, and the other stuff on your list, won't be included.

What we'll possibly get instead is (more) multi-resolution support for the UI, and maybe something like Google Gears to support an easier conversion of web apps (compliant with the latest HTML5 stuff) into installed offline apps. Maybe, if we're lucky, better calendar integration and a "new improved"(tm) version of the Fat Mac Switcher.

in my cat's opinion...

[fishkorp]

I see some have stated a charge:mad: for touch users to update (2 in the immediate family here), for some reason that if it is so great, I bet there will probably be a charge to upgrade to 3.0 for the iphone too. :mad:

No, it's an accounting issue. Apple has to charge for major software revisions for the iPod Touch (they charged for 1.x to 2.0), but the OS update is factored into the accounting practices for the iPhone, so all iPhone OS updates are free.

[kmcrawford]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

This is very much like apple, but I agree I wish it wasn't a preview.

[jackfrost123]

Fantastic news, great to have glimpse, out of the blue news too, no one saw that coming, maybe the mid march event rumor was about that.

[str1f3]

Scott Forstall (http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/forstall.html)

i like scott forstall but he can be really boring. my personal favorite is ive but this is not his field. hopefully after steve leaves, ive is the frontman on  announcements.

[TheSpaz]

iTunes 8.1's secret feature: Supports iPhones running 3.0 software.

[sers]

Copy and paste, please Apple....

That's all I want and this will make netbooks even more irrelevant.

Even if we don't get it, I'll still love my iPhone.

[szark]

Also, it seems the "shuffle" part of the iPod function plays some tunes more than others. It's not really random.

I've noticed that too, gets old fast when you've only stuck a couple of gigs of music on it.

Actually, that indicates it IS truly random. After the iPod plays a song, it could potentially choose ANY song in your library to play next, including the one it just played.

If it only played each song in your library once in a random order, that wouldn't really be random. :)

[mistafro]

I can't stand these Apple haters and complainers!! The iPhone changed the whole mobile industry, brought REAL internet to your phone, and so much more and all people can do is bitch about it not having MMS or copy n paste!!
If it wasn't for Apple we'd have the same old cell phones from Moto and Nokia that you use for just calling people becauase the OS isn't even worth bothering with!

I bet OS 3.0 is going to leave the competition eating dust and playing catch up for another year and just when they release their 2.0's copying everything Apple did in 3.0, BAM 4.0 and they play catch up again!

Also I bet copy n paste will make it's way into OS 3.0 in a way that no one has thought of.

June will bring a new iPhone that will once again amaze.

Credit needs to be given, not too mention they have trounced Nintendo and Sony in their own yards by creating the freshest, coolest new gaming platform and Apple did it when it was an afterthought really.

Quit bitching and give credit to Apple's game changing development teams.

[Marvin1379]

I can't friggen wait! They are doing this to have developers have 3.0-compatible apps ready to go on launch day. I want to see so bad what they will be adding...

Release for 3.0 and next gen iPhone has to be in June sometime. That's when the 1st gen contracts are up w/ AT&T!! :p

[thestaton]

I wonder if this will be a free upgrade? I honestly can't see them doing anything that would make me want to forget about jail breaking my phone.

[dizastor]

So does anything think we'll see iPhone 3 (WTH are they going to call the next one?)

iPhone HD

[lazyrighteye]

Just a preview on the 17th. To be honest I wish Apple would wait until the actual release of the firmware to reveal all of the secrets of what's to come. This is unlike Apple.:rolleyes:

Generate buzz?
If buzz = worthy, that may hold some potential buyers over until launch that may have gone with a competitor sans the preview. ;)