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nyprospect
May 31, 2004, 06:58 PM
Im looking to make a switch from a pc.I was wondering if there are any sites that i cant have access to using safari .Thank you



LaMerVipere
May 31, 2004, 07:07 PM
I just found out today (quite sadly) that I cannot use my future University's student resource website because it requires internet explorer version something or other or if u have a MAC Netscape version 4.75 and thats only available for mac os 9 and i downloaded it even so and it still doesn't work, GRR...

And tomorrow is the last day that I can take this online placement exam so thank god i can go to school tomorrow and use the PC's there for that or else i wouldn't be able to register for classes in the fall! :(

Butler Trumpet
May 31, 2004, 07:08 PM
I'm a very long time mac user, and with the current version of Safari I have never had any problems accessing any site on the net. However if you do, there is always internet explorer, or firefox... and many other browsers that you may use. Safari is the best in my opinion though and it never gives me any problems.

Good job switching, tell your friends :)

nyprospect
May 31, 2004, 07:27 PM
Is there a way you can make the sites think safari is ie 6? i have heard that somewhere i think :confused:

AliensAreFuzzy
May 31, 2004, 07:29 PM
I've had some trouble accessing my school's sports website, www.Xavierhawks.com. I really want to get a mac but I still want to be able to use that site. When I try to go to sports and then any of the sports' pages.

JOD8FY
May 31, 2004, 07:30 PM
Is there a way you can make the sites think safari is ie 6? i have heard that somewhere i think :confused:

Yes. Go to www.versiontracker.com and do a search for it.

JOD8FY

Fukui
May 31, 2004, 10:00 PM
Most websites that program plugins for ActiveX (IE 5-6) only work in windows. Maybe go to an Apple Store and try out the websites you use frequently?

theimacguy
May 31, 2004, 10:03 PM
Is there a way you can make the sites think safari is ie 6? i have heard that somewhere i think :confused:

Get Safari Enhancer and enable the debug menu. :cool:

12ibookg4
May 31, 2004, 10:38 PM
to get the debug menu:
enter the following in terminal while safari is not runnning

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

(if you want to get rid of the menu then change the 1 to a 0)

jackieonasses
May 31, 2004, 10:57 PM
Yes. Go to www.versiontracker.com and do a search for it.

JOD8FY

that site worked for me.... i have the new 10.3.4 update so maybe that is why.

MacFan26
Jun 1, 2004, 12:18 AM
I've had some trouble accessing my school's sports website, www.Xavierhawks.com. I really want to get a mac but I still want to be able to use that site. When I try to go to sports and then any of the sports' pages.

I tried going to this site in Safari and it seemed to work fine. All of the links under the sports page gave me 404's though, that's not a problem with Safari though is it?

Phazer80s
Jun 1, 2004, 12:54 AM
Or perhaps, another "to flush:"

LAUNCH (http://launch.yahoo.com)

The page will appear, but the audio/video files are not accessible. You need to use a Windows version of IE or some outmoded version of Netscape in OS 9 (as per LaMerVipere's experience.) I read somewhere that the inaccessibility may be a political Yahoo! vs AOL thing. AOL plays nice with Apple, Yahoo! cuts off Launch from Apple users. Not sure about that theory. Whatever the case, the restriction is frustrating; Launch is a good site with a lot of fast-streaming content. Fun when you're on Windows.

Here's something odd: the homepage for the band The Eagles is on the Launch network. It contains a link advertising the band's music on the iTMS which in turn has a link to the band's Launch site. Still, the Launch site at large isn't Mac-friendly. I smell fish. :confused:

Anyone have any insight to share about Launch?

nyprospect
Jun 1, 2004, 12:02 PM
Wow i Launch every night .I watch videos all the time there .Oh man this stinks.

flyfish29
Jun 1, 2004, 12:30 PM
I just found out today (quite sadly) that I cannot use my future University's student resource website because it requires internet explorer version something or other or if u have a MAC Netscape version 4.75 and thats only available for mac os 9 and i downloaded it even so and it still doesn't work, GRR...

And tomorrow is the last day that I can take this online placement exam so thank god i can go to school tomorrow and use the PC's there for that or else i wouldn't be able to register for classes in the fall! :(
Have you tried to run the web site. I used a gov't student loan web site that said it was only for IE or Netscape and it ran perfectly using Safari. I even contacted them afterwards and they said it worked fine and they didn't realize it would so they have since updated I think the list of browsers. Safari didn't used to work with a couple of sites last year, but when the next revision came out the conflicts were fixed. I had sent apple feedback using the feedback command.

I say go for it, you can always use IE, firefox,etc if needed or use the hack.
Johnny

noel4r
Jun 1, 2004, 12:32 PM
my.yahoo.com and my.msn.com (both work fine under Camino)

sockeatingdryer
Jun 1, 2004, 12:45 PM
Actually, though it says that Safari 'doesn't meet requirements,' it does work with Java 1.4.2 (and Safari 1.2.2 doesn't hurt, but not needed). I updated Java and it worked perfectly. In the rare case (1/50) that it doesn't work after entering information, just refresh.

Other than that, no problems.

krimson
Jun 1, 2004, 01:02 PM
Or perhaps, another "to flush:"

LAUNCH (http://launch.yahoo.com)


That one does suck, especially if you wanna watch a video.. and im not in that much of a hurry to watch a video on Launch, that I download Netscape 4.7 just to watch.

Horrortaxi
Jun 1, 2004, 02:33 PM
Websites that are written according to standards will be perfectly well behaved in Safari. Unfortunately, IE breaks so many standards that a lot of programmers adapt their code to work with IE. That's why you'll get the odd site that misbehaves in Safari. Safari is a lot more compatible now though--and you have Firefox (and even IE if you must) as a backup for that one in a thousand site that Safari won't show--I've found the debug menu still doesn't get me out of some rough spots.

Fukui
Jun 1, 2004, 04:10 PM
Or perhaps, another "to flush:"

LAUNCH (http://launch.yahoo.com)

Anyone have any insight to share about Launch?
I got it to work with Omniweb set to Netscape 4.7 (safari's settings dont stick) but Windows Monkey Player says the "The playlist format isn't recognized..." thanks Microsoft! Where do you wanna go today?

kjwebb
Jun 2, 2004, 07:12 AM
WebCT based sites don't work in Safari but work in IE on the mac.

titaniumducky
Jun 2, 2004, 08:27 AM
my.yahoo.com and my.msn.com (both work fine under Camino)

my.yahoo.com works fine under Safari in 10.3.4....

Horrortaxi
Jun 2, 2004, 08:49 AM
WebCT based sites don't work in Safari but work in IE on the mac.
I've used WebCT in Safari.

James L
Jun 2, 2004, 08:55 AM
WebCT based sites don't work in Safari but work in IE on the mac.


Wierd... I am taking a course right now in WebCT and it works fine in Safari.

The poster above has it right though. Web design standards as per the W3, ECMA, etc are platform and browser independent. If the site is coded properly it doesn't matter what you use to view it.

Having said that, M$ throws in a ton of proprietary crap into IE, and on top of that doesn't support web standards properly. The end result is people who do not know how to code web pages properly use this proprietary code and ruin it for the rest of the peope who realize IE is crap and want to use a real browser.

Cheers,

James

sixteen
Jun 2, 2004, 11:02 AM
I've had some trouble accessing my school's sports website, www.Xavierhawks.com. I really want to get a mac but I still want to be able to use that site. When I try to go to sports and then any of the sports' pages.

The site is very poorly designed and not well thought out at all.

They could start by rearranging the structure of the site. It might not hurt to ditch the frames, either.

If this thing is working "correctly" in MSIE on Windows, either it's been written to MSIE's bugs OR MSIE is doing a "better" job or rendering a design that needs a serious rethink.

Maybe both.

Danrose1977
Jun 2, 2004, 11:05 AM
When I was buying my last car I had an issue with viewing rover.co.uk, worked fine in IE though....

kjwebb
Jun 2, 2004, 09:37 PM
WebCT does work but not all the time.

For example, it doesn't always want to access the discussions area.

MacFan26
Jun 3, 2004, 02:14 AM
WebCT does work but not all the time.


Yeah, WebCT worked for me except for taking quizzes. That I had to do in IE.

Abstract
Jun 3, 2004, 03:29 AM
Safari didn't work well at www.futureshop.ca at all until a few months ago. Its an electronic store, and many of the product links wouldn't work before. Now they do. :)

Also, at the HMV website, many times they'll provide you with 30-second clips of every song on the album. I can't access these free 30-second clips using Safari or Firebird. Sometimes it'll work in IE. :(

numediaman
Jun 4, 2004, 03:34 PM
You guys make it sound too complicated.

The bottom line is that if you have the latest version of Safari and the latest OS you should have no problem with 99.99% of web sites. And the majority of those that you do encounter problems on can be viewed through IE.

So . . . since the upside of having a Mac is the use of the Mac OS, there is absolutely no reason to not get a Mac because of some fear of bad Internet browsing. In fact, when you get your new Mac, you'll see that you are moving along much faster using Safari -- so the upside is huge, the downside minimal.

josepho
Jun 5, 2004, 04:12 AM
to get the debug menu:
enter the following in terminal while safari is not runnning

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

(if you want to get rid of the menu then change the 1 to a 0)

I've done this and, lo-and-behold, the Debug menu has appeared. However, when I select Use Agent, and choose IE 6.0 for Windows for example it doesn't affect the way which sites (like Launch) treat me - they still say that I have to use some old Netscape 4.7x version for the Mac. Surely Safari should be sending Agent data which doesn't give away my real 'identity'...

netytan
Jun 5, 2004, 05:17 AM
I think the thing to remember here is that Safari is very new - think back at IE v1 and all the things that that didn't support and all the bugs showing there. Safari will only get better and websites will be designed with this in mind, low and behold we may even have websites that only run properly with Safari and its very strict rules.

Anyone using DreamWeaver 2004 should see this already since you can check your websites to see if they work right in Safari aswell as the usual EI, Netscape etc.

Don't worry about it, as other users have said, the benifits far outway the disadvantages!

Mark.

MacDawg
Jun 5, 2004, 07:12 AM
I'm interested in why Safari might display correctly for one user, but not another. My bill pay on Wachovia will not display data, only the header, yet another user has told me that they have no problem using bill pay with Wachovia. I use Panther and the latest Safari. I have Java enabled, etc. just like the other user. It just puzzles me. This is the only site that I still use IE for... Any further suggestions?

Fukui
Jun 5, 2004, 10:01 AM
I've done this and, lo-and-behold, the Debug menu has appeared. However, when I select Use Agent, and choose IE 6.0 for Windows for example it doesn't affect the way which sites (like Launch) treat me - they still say that I have to use some old Netscape 4.7x version for the Mac. Surely Safari should be sending Agent data which doesn't give away my real 'identity'...
For some reason when the new window opens, it reverts back the agent setting. Check the debug menu after going to Launch and try to watch a movie. Use Omniweb and change its setting, its sticks, but there is still a problem, Windows Media Player cant play the windows media on the site!!

windowsblowsass
Jun 5, 2004, 11:23 AM
just download OMNI WEB (http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/) you can mascarade as ie so pages will work

MacFan26
Jun 8, 2004, 11:50 PM
has anyone been able to use Yahoo Chat with Safari? I can't seem to get that to work. It's fine in IE though.