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radhak
Jun 9, 2004, 05:43 AM
I am ever suspicious of the 'too good' deals, and this falls under that :

OEM Software (http://starsoftpack.biz/)

what do you all think? The site seems better made than the average piracy sites, and the FAQ is almost respectable, and they even 'guarantee' the software. But I could not find any contact details for them, neither phone nor address or even email....

Maybe I could check with any of the manufacturers listed like Adobe? Anybody know who/where?

russed
Jun 9, 2004, 05:54 AM
i get this feeling that there is something a bit odd about that site and the prices are pretty damn low!

netytan
Jun 9, 2004, 06:18 AM
Thats insain! How in hell can any business aford to sell such amazing software at a price you could bearly do your shopping with :S. Has anyone ordered anything from these guys before? If so, did they actually deliver? If they did i may place an order right now ;).

Mark.

dopefiend
Jun 9, 2004, 06:19 AM
Here is their info if anyone is wondering:

whois.melbourneit.com]
Domain Name: STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Domain ID: D7084205-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: DI_431654
Registrant Name: Gregor Ya
Registrant Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Registrant Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Registrant City: Shanghai
Registrant Postal Code: 200336
Registrant Country: China
Registrant Country Code: CN
Registrant Phone Number: +86.285223815
Registrant Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Administrative Contact ID: DI_431654
Administrative Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Administrative Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Administrative Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Administrative Contact City: Shanghai
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 200336
Administrative Contact Country: China
Administrative Contact Country Code: CN
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Administrative Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Billing Contact ID: DI_431654
Billing Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Billing Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Billing Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Billing Contact City: Shanghai
Billing Contact Postal Code: 200336
Billing Contact Country: China
Billing Contact Country Code: CN
Billing Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Billing Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Technical Contact ID: DI_431654
Technical Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Technical Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Technical Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Technical Contact City: Shanghai
Technical Contact Postal Code: 200336
Technical Contact Country: China
Technical Contact Country Code: CN
Technical Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Technical Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Name Server: NS1.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Name Server: NS2.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Created by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Last Updated by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Registration Date: Thu Jun 03 10:13:54 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Thu Jun 02 23:59:59 GMT 2005
Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Jun 03 10:15:21 GMT 2004


See bolding...

Gregory Mushrooms? kind of odd.

russed
Jun 9, 2004, 07:24 AM
they even give you more money off if you spend over $300! how come in the FAQ it says everything ships from Europe but the site is registered to some guy in shanghai and the prices are all on $'s?

netytan
Jun 9, 2004, 07:31 AM
Who and where the domain is registered too isnt really an issue since if this guy made arangments with a hosting company to register it the site wouldn't be in his name anyway :). Now the $ thing can also be explained if you assume that the guy is going for consistancy - most websites today using $. Though if you ask me, saddly it probably is too good to be true :(

Mark.

loubapache
Jun 9, 2004, 07:36 AM
Unfortunately, these are pirated software.

It is true that there are many pirated software for sale outside the US for really cheap (much cheaper than what this site is advertizing for). Many cost a little more than the medium it is on (a blank CD). Windows XP Pro could be had for a few US dollars, for example. Some websites even post the ISO images of the retail CDs of the software for download if one knows how to get to these URLs. Then the product key is downloaded from a different place, again, if one knows how.

netytan
Jun 9, 2004, 07:55 AM
Theres a shame, i'm trying to keep my pirated software purly on windows so my mac is nice and clean ;). Though i have to say that i like the look of Photoshop CS for that price, especially since i'm gonna end up paying for the full CS suite later in the year :).

Mark.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Jun 9, 2004, 08:47 AM
Generally, when something seems to good to be true, it's because that's just what it is... ;)

jxyama
Jun 9, 2004, 08:56 AM
pretty much any thing with .biz should be considered suspect, unless proven otherwise...

irmongoose
Jun 9, 2004, 08:56 AM
Well that URL is just a mask, and the real URL is www.compforhome.com.
I did a Google search on compforhome and it seems it has been blacklisted for spam. Link (http://www.joewein.de/sw/blacklist.htm)

If moral/legal issues are not a problem for you, why don't you just go and download whatever you want instead of buying pirated software? Putting money into the deal just makes it worse. And who knows, what if they don't deliver?



irmongoose

flyfish29
Jun 9, 2004, 11:32 AM
Generally, when something seems to good to be true, it's because that's just what it is... ;)

this is sketchy as well:
The web site says this:
Yes, that's right: guaranteed software.

All our products are covered by an unconditional 60-day money-back guarantee.
If for any reason you are not satisfied with your product in the first 60 days after purchase, simply contact our customer service team and we'll make it right, or we will arrange for a return and full refund, less shipping and handling (if applicable).

I am sorry, but they can't afford to do it...probably even pirated stuff. I would guess you would never see a thing! Pirated or not, but maybe it is the prepackaged pirated stuff that looks similar to the real stuff.

don't do it...if it seems too good to be tru it is!

Johnny

wide
Jun 9, 2004, 02:02 PM
why not email them and see if they respond?

or call their number (if you want to spend a lot of money on long distance)

even better, call the BBB

radhak
Jun 9, 2004, 03:02 PM
why not email them and see if they respond?

or call their number (if you want to spend a lot of money on long distance)

even better, call the BBB
no email id.

no phone numbers.

better off forgetting about them :(

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 9, 2004, 03:35 PM
Here is their info if anyone is wondering:

whois.melbourneit.com]
Domain Name: STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Domain ID: D7084205-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: DI_431654
Registrant Name: Gregor Ya
Registrant Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Registrant Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Registrant City: Shanghai
Registrant Postal Code: 200336
Registrant Country: China
Registrant Country Code: CN
Registrant Phone Number: +86.285223815
Registrant Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Administrative Contact ID: DI_431654
Administrative Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Administrative Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Administrative Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Administrative Contact City: Shanghai
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 200336
Administrative Contact Country: China
Administrative Contact Country Code: CN
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Administrative Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Billing Contact ID: DI_431654
Billing Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Billing Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Billing Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Billing Contact City: Shanghai
Billing Contact Postal Code: 200336
Billing Contact Country: China
Billing Contact Country Code: CN
Billing Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Billing Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Technical Contact ID: DI_431654
Technical Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Technical Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Technical Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Technical Contact City: Shanghai
Technical Contact Postal Code: 200336
Technical Contact Country: China
Technical Contact Country Code: CN
Technical Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Technical Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Name Server: NS1.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Name Server: NS2.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Created by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Last Updated by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Registration Date: Thu Jun 03 10:13:54 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Thu Jun 02 23:59:59 GMT 2005
Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Jun 03 10:15:21 GMT 2004


See bolding...

Gregory Mushrooms? kind of odd.

Even more strange:

DIRECTI.COM
Back-order this name

Make an Offer for this name

Registration Service Provided By: DIRECTI
Contact: sales@directi.com
Website: http://www.directi.com

Domain Name: DIRECTI.COM

Registrant:
Direct Information Pvt Ltd
Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
330, Link Way Estate
Link Road
Malad (W)
Mumbai
Maharashtra,400064
IN
Tel. +91.2256797500

Creation Date: 11-Aug-1997
Expiration Date: 25-Sep-2005

Domain servers in listed order:
ns.directihosting.com
ns2.directihosting.com


Administrative Contact:
Direct Information Pvt Ltd
Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
330, Link Way Estate
Link Road
Malad (W)
Mumbai
Maharashtra,400064
IN
Tel. +91.2256797500

Technical Contact:
Direct Information Pvt Ltd
Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
330, Link Way Estate
Link Road
Malad (W)
Mumbai
Maharashtra,400064
IN
Tel. +91.2256797500

Billing Contact:
Direct Information Pvt Ltd
Domain Manager (domain.manager@directi.com)
330, Link Way Estate
Link Road
Malad (W)
Mumbai
Maharashtra,400064
IN
Tel. +91.2256797500

Status:ACTIVE


And...

compforhome.com
Back-order this name

Make an Offer for this name

Registration Service Provided By: NAME15.COM
Contact: support@ssl4all.com
Website: http://name15.com

Domain Name: COMPFORHOME.COM

Registrant:
JAMRED SOFT LLC.
James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
172 NORTH CEDAR
SEYMOUR
TX,76380
US
Tel. +1.9408882398

Creation Date: 21-May-2004
Expiration Date: 21-May-2005

Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.3070.biz
ns2.3070.biz
ns3.3070.biz


Administrative Contact:
JAMRED SOFT LLC.
James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
172 NORTH CEDAR
SEYMOUR
TX,76380
US
Tel. +1.9408882398

Technical Contact:
JAMRED SOFT LLC.
James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
172 NORTH CEDAR
SEYMOUR
TX,76380
US
Tel. +1.9408882398

Billing Contact:
JAMRED SOFT LLC.
James Reding (texwhit@hotmail.com)
172 NORTH CEDAR
SEYMOUR
TX,76380
US
Tel. +1.9408882398

Status:ACTIVE

flyfish29
Jun 9, 2004, 06:25 PM
no email id.

no phone numbers.

better off forgetting about them :(

Come on, even if there was an email or phone number, I can put my own number and email on a fake site...if you really want proof a site is legit, contact one of the software manufacturers and ask them if they are an outlet to sell the stuff. The only way a manufacturer isn't going to list a site/location as a legit seller would be if they get it similar to how Sam's club or other places get their stuff- closeouts, old versions, going out of business sales, etc. but that would not usually be on the most recent versions.

Johnny

titaniumducky
Jun 9, 2004, 06:48 PM
The software is pirated and/or the company is phony.

Either way this is bad. Why would you pay for something pirated? That's worse than downloading pirated software...

If it's phony, you lose your money.

Don't do it.

Godfather
Jun 10, 2004, 03:58 AM
their policy:
e) What do I get when I order something from you?
You get the CD(s) with the software in jewel case and labels. You also get the activation key, serial number or cd key necessary to activate the software. Note, that you will not be able to register the software with the manufacturer and get their support, but we will do our best to support you any way possible. This includes providing different updates and service packs. However some updates will still be available from manufacturers, in fact most of them.


Lolz :D

edesignuk
Jun 10, 2004, 04:39 AM
Domain Name: STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Domain ID: D7084205-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: DI_431654
Registrant Name: Gregor Ya
Registrant Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Registrant Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Registrant City: Shanghai
Registrant Postal Code: 200336
Registrant Country: China
Registrant Country Code: CN
Registrant Phone Number: +86.285223815
Registrant Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Administrative Contact ID: DI_431654
Administrative Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Administrative Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Administrative Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Administrative Contact City: Shanghai
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 200336
Administrative Contact Country: China
Administrative Contact Country Code: CN
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Administrative Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Billing Contact ID: DI_431654
Billing Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Billing Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Billing Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Billing Contact City: Shanghai
Billing Contact Postal Code: 200336
Billing Contact Country: China
Billing Contact Country Code: CN
Billing Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Billing Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Technical Contact ID: DI_431654
Technical Contact Name: Gregor Ya
Technical Contact Organization: Gregory Mushrooms
Technical Contact Address1: 7734 lane Hongqiao
Technical Contact City: Shanghai
Technical Contact Postal Code: 200336
Technical Contact Country: China
Technical Contact Country Code: CN
Technical Contact Phone Number: +86.285223815
Technical Contact Email: rapidma@doramail.com
Name Server: NS1.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Name Server: NS2.STARSOFTPACK.BIZ
Created by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Last Updated by Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Registration Date: Thu Jun 03 10:13:54 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Thu Jun 02 23:59:59 GMT 2005
Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Jun 03 10:15:21 GMT 2004
Gregory Mushrooms, in Shanghai, China huh? :D