The 10.3.5 update DID something for me thread.

[stoid]

The main 10.3.5 update thread is so bogged down with people posting "YAY I'm updating" and "NAY I'm waiting" that I'm not sure if this update is actually doing anything.

So post here only if the update actually changed something noticeably for you good or bad, so that this thread can be a quick reference guide for people considering updating or not.

No discussion here, you want to discuss (or spam) go to the main thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=83586). Thanks guys/gals!

[Ryan1524]

so far, Mail is faster in checking for mail. haven't noticed anything else yet.

[homeshire]

i just noticed that 30+gb of hard drive space seem to have disappeared somewhere into the ether. can anyone explain that? i can't swear 10.3.5 caused it, but i just noticed it missing when repairing permissions after installing 10.3.5 ... what's up with that???

[Ryan1524]

hm. i do not experience this. my HDD space is relatively the same as last tiem i check them.

[bousozoku]

I've noticed that the de-interlacing in DVD Player is much better in that it doesn't show a lot of scan lines when there is a lot of movement. I've noticed a lot of jaggies now but they were probably there in the past, too.

[quagmire]

It made me find 5 new computer numbers.

/System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/Content/Info.plist

<key>IOPlatformPluginTable</key>
<dict>
<key>PowerBook7,1</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerBook7,2</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac7,2</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac7,3</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac8,1</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac9,1</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>RackMac3,1</key>
<string>RackMac3_1_PlatformPlugin</string>

Powermac 7,3 and Powermac 9,1

Powerbook 7,1 and 7,2

Macrack 3,1

[LeeTom]

According to http://www.theapplemuseum.com/index.php?id=tam&page=products&subpage=newworld
Powermac 7,3 is the new G5,
Macrack 3,1 is the G5 XServe, but Powermac 9,1, and Powerbook 7,1/7,2 are nonexistent as of yet.
We can all guess that Powermac 9,1 is the iMac G5, but Powerbook 7,1 and 7,2 are surprising this early. There must be Powerbook and/or iBook updates on the horizon... I'm guessing by January. And there's no way it's the Powerbook G5. We got 1 more revision.

Anyways, back onto the topic, I uh... well, have noticed nothing different about 10.3.5. Sorry!

Lee Tom

[quagmire]

According to http://www.theapplemuseum.com/index.php?id=tam&page=products&subpage=newworld
Powermac 7,3 is the new G5,
Macrack 3,1 is the G5 XServe, but Powermac 9,1, and Powerbook 7,1/7,2 are nonexistent as of yet.
We can all guess that Powermac 9,1 is the iMac G5, but Powerbook 7,1 and 7,2 are surprising this early. There must be Powerbook and/or iBook updates on the horizon... I'm guessing by January. And there's no way it's the Powerbook G5. We got 1 more revision.

Anyways, back onto the topic, I uh... well, have noticed nothing different about 10.3.5. Sorry!

Lee Tom

Then what happened to Powermac 8,1? I thought that was supposed to be the imac G5.

[jackieonasses]

I know this sounds mildly ridiculous. but...I swear. my G5's internal speakers are louder! by far noticable! please someone. Tell me if i am correct!

[Cuckoo]

On my Powerbook G4 (1.25ghz). I do not see any difference in Mail. But it did do something very weird to my Safary. It wouldn't start, just bounce. I had to download safary manually before it would work properly. That was kind of a bummer. But after downloading and installing Safari, i can say, no difference at all.

Cuckoo

[dehgenog]

12" Rev.C PowerBook owners should be thankful for the new nvidia drivers. they fixed a SEVERE bug where 3d performance would turn to doggy doo after awakening from sleep. (Couldn't play intensive 3d games properly after a Sleep without rebooting)

[whooleytoo]

I haven't upgraded yet, but I read on MobileWhack (http://www.mobilewhack.com) that 10.3.5 includes a Bluetooth remote control ability (effectively use your phone as a wirelss keyboard/mouse). Has anyone tried this?

[mfarley]

No major issues here. I did notice that once updated my main email account in Mail was sent to offline status when I restarted even though I had just been using it prior to the restart.

Of course, I hadn't disabled all my system hacks or rebuilt permissions prior to installing the update so I was probably asking for something to happen. =)

Mike

[Boris Yeltsin]

No major issues here. I did notice that once updated my main email account in Mail was sent to offline status when I restarted even though I had just been using it prior to the restart.

Of course, I hadn't disabled all my system hacks or rebuilt permissions prior to installing the update so I was probably asking for something to happen. =)

Mike

This update has made my G5 not want to sleep. I'm getting a little irritated because when I called Apple Care they told me to do a complete reinstall. I now have suffer through the pain of reinstalling the os, apps, and my back-up data. This update, in my opinion, really bites.

[mkaake]

my windows networking has become even slower. when i plug the pc into my mac, it now takes over 15 minutes before i can access it over the network. under 10.3.4, it was about 4 minutes (which is still too long in my mind). the most annoying part? i could see the mac on my pc long before my mac would let me access the pc.

[Gymnut]

i just noticed that 30+gb of hard drive space seem to have disappeared somewhere into the ether. can anyone explain that? i can't swear 10.3.5 caused it, but i just noticed it missing when repairing permissions after installing 10.3.5 ... what's up with that???

It seems one of your logs in one of your Libraries has become corrupted and bloated. This has happen to me before while repairing permissions on my MDD with 120GB I was at a lost for words when I happen to notice that Disk Utility noted that I only had 13GB of HD space. After some "getting info" on several files, I narrowed my search down to the crash logs of which one monster was roughly 60GB in size. I trashed the sucker and restarted and all was fine. Anybody else have this problem?

[veedubdrew]

10.3.5 made my system feel "snappier." It made my fan run more, but not obnoxiously so. Flipping between pics in iPhoto is quicker now. A bug with my trackpad operation has gone away. iDisk access in the Finder is now much quicker and more stable for me. Windows minimize to the dock much faster and smoother than they did before. My AirPort reception improved a bit. A bug with my Bluetooth has been fixed.

I think that's about it for the 10.3.5 differences on my machine. Overall I'm very pleased with the update.

-Drew

[Koodauw]

Just kidding.

After the update I noticed that my CPU usage is a bit lower than it was before while I do every day things. (iTasks)

Also things do feel alot more snappier, and I would say the the sounds from the internal speakers is better too.

I was most impressed with the Java Update, Java Apps are launching faster, and running smoother. Thanks Apple

[ChrisFromCanada]

Safari has been slightly slower for me (barely).

But yes my system is snappier so I am happy.

[Counterfit]

I haven't upgraded yet, but I read on MobileWhack (http://www.mobilewhack.com) that 10.3.5 includes a Bluetooth remote control ability (effectively use your phone as a wirelss keyboard/mouse). Has anyone tried this? That only works on the Sony Ericsson K700 and S700, as they have a remote control feature. Jonas Salling released some tools to make the feature work better, but it still doesn't compare to Salling Clicker.

[jsw]

About 0.001% of people will care about this, but the hidden Display Options panel has been changed to allow separate disabling of each of the two ACD display buttons. My 20" ACD's Power button causes my G5 to freeze - disabling it stopped the problem. Now, in 10.3.5, I can enable the "display preferences" button separately. Not a big deal, but sort of cool. For me. And, yes, it's under AppleCare, but I don't want to go without it forever while Apple scratches it up to "fix" it.

Edit: to get to it: System Preferences...->option-shift-click on Display icon.

[flyfish29]

About 0.001% of people will care about this

that comes out to more than 30 MacRumors members, do you think that is a little high? :D

[jsw]

that comes out to more than 30 MacRumors members, do you think that is a little high? :D
"About 1 in every 40,000 MacRumors members will care about this."

Better? ;)

At least it showed me that 10.3.5 did something - I saw no other changes!

[bousozoku]

I found one other thing, which is not so good. While playing the Carbon-ised version of Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force Expansion Pack, I encountered a couple of characters out of uniform--wearing pajamas again. (The uniforms are simply a random pattern.) This was fixed back in 10.2.5/10.2.6 when the OpenGL and nVidia drivers were corrected.

I also noticed that networking between my two Ethernet-attached Macs in this room is back to where it was from 10.3 to 10.3.3. I cannot merely connect to the other machine, but I can browse and connect to it.

Shame! :(

[charlien5]

very happy - safari was very slow for me in 10.3.4 - now it seems much faster .
for example it used to take a number of minutes to open in tabs one of my folders in favorites eg my mac folder which contains about 20 different websites.
now the same folder opens a window of tabs ready to be clicked on in under 30s.hope this makes sense.
charlie
i have an emac 700mhz 10.3.5

[johnnyjibbs]

10.3.4 was fine for me. So is 10.3.5.

Unreal tournament 2004 demo seems noticeably faster in frame rate (I have 12" PB rev B (1GHz) with nVidia 5200 GO). Other 12" PB users seem to be reporting similar gains in games performance after this upgrade.

I upgraded because I like to be up to date and now I have the latest drivers for the latest digital cameras etc.

Certainly nothing has gone wrong after this upgrade.

[whooleytoo]

Yay... finally Bluetooth "Browse Device" works for me with my Nokia 6600. This greatly simplifies copying files to/from the phone.

[tech4all]

About 0.001% of people will care about this, but the hidden Display Options panel has been changed to allow separate disabling of each of the two ACD display buttons. My 20" ACD's Power button causes my G5 to freeze - disabling it stopped the problem. Now, in 10.3.5, I can enable the "display preferences" button separately. Not a big deal, but sort of cool. For me. And, yes, it's under AppleCare, but I don't want to go without it forever while Apple scratches it up to "fix" it.

Edit: to get to it: System Preferences...->option-shift-click on Display icon.

Hmmm thats funny, I haven't upgraded yet I have those options according to your attachment in my System Prefrences....

[MrSugar]

"About 1 in every 40,000 MacRumors members will care about this."

Better? ;)

At least it showed me that 10.3.5 did something - I saw no other changes!

I actually have been waiting to update but this the reason I am convinced too now. Thanks for the info, even if you thought it was irrelevant it applies to me!!! :)

[jsw]

Hmmm thats funny, I haven't upgraded yet I have those options according to your attachment in my System Prefrences....
Hmmm. Well, I could swear I was helping someone find the options very recently, and it looked the "old" way (one checkbox) to me. I guess it could have been 10.3.4 that did it - but I think I looked after that. Maybe one of the other upgrades did it? Obviously, if you haven't gone to 10.3.5, that wasn't the one that did it. So now I'm back to zero visible changes in 10.3.5. Thanks... ;)

[ChrisFromCanada]

Better wireless reception in our house!

[advres]

Well first with the minor problem. Installing 10.3.5 actually seemed to change some of my Safari prefs. I was wondering why when I tried to log onto certain websites I frequent daily, I would have to re-enter my username and password everytime. Sometimes I would get a dialog box dropdown asking me if I would like Safari to "remember the username and password". As per usually I said yes and next time I opened safari again I there was me having to re-enter my info. This was easily fixed by jumping through my prefs and getting everything setup but it was still a time waster.

Now on to the one that is really pissing me off! When I double-click any folder on the desktop it opens in icon view. :eek: I know the trusty "open the folder, resize, change the view and close" and the finder will "remember" that setting for the folder but it no longer works for me!!!!! I have run my cron scripts and repaired permissions to no avail. Everytime the computer goes to sleep or gets shutdown, I have to go through all my daily used folders to get the displays accurate. Maybe I am being too anal but this little bit of extra work with every ****** folder is slowing me down.

I give this "downdate" a big FU. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Laslo Panaflex]

I now have the the ability to put the computer to sleep by pressing the power button on the cinema display. All of this is adjusted in an options tab in the display preference pane.

I know I saw someone asking about this before, and no one was able to figure it out. Anyway, it's a great update for me, no problems here.

[iLikeMyiMac]

This happens about half the time I quit an application: I get 1 black pixel in the dock 1 pixel to the left of where the black triangle was when the program was running. Pressing ⌥ + ⌘ + d twice fixes it and so does dragging the icon out of the dock and back in. Its not that big of a deal but it is something.

[j33pd0g]

I'm not really sure how to explain this... but here goes:

When changing file extentions on the desktop, or in list view (example: .txt to .html), pressing return, or clicking off the item, would result in a locked rubber band selection state. Not a big deal, but annoying if you had to do it every 5 minutes. Well... it's fixed. It doesn't do that any more.

[dPratt]

10.3.5, and more specifically Safari 1.2.3, fixed a very annoying little bug where you couldn't add images to the lightbox at gettyimages.com - and now I can:) Nothing was broken and everything seems at least as fast, so I'm happy.

[Ishtar]

Just got the 10.3.5 update last night, and wish to god I hadnt. Took out the communication between OSX and my ATI Rage pro. I could get in in safe mode until we zapped the pram. Now its done for. Cant get OSX up on my monitor at all. Trying to find a way to fix it without forking out for a new video card :(

[KindredMAC]

Just got the 10.3.5 update last night, and wish to god I hadnt. Took out the communication between OSX and my ATI Rage pro. I could get in in safe mode until we zapped the pram. Now its done for. Cant get OSX up on my monitor at all. Trying to find a way to fix it without forking out for a new video card :(

I know how you feel to a certain degree. I updated my iBook 900Mhz G3 to 10.3.5 early last week and by Thursday night it was freezing constantly in the Finder and Safari. Start ups, Shut Downs and Restarts took a good 5-6 minutes to happen. It even froze when I tried booting from the Panther CD.

Last night I had Kernel Panic after Panic and it even prompted me for Unix code on the Gray start up screen, so I booted off of the Panther CD (worked the first time, go figure) and took a look at the Disk Utility. The HD needed repair so I repaired that and the permissions were the worst I have ever seen. I went to restart on my HD and the damn thing sat there with a blank gray screen for over 20 minutes.

I booted off of the CD again and told it to boot from Classic. NOT A SINGLE FRICKIN PROBLEM HAPPENED THEN!!! The iBook ran the fastest it has since we bought it over a year ago. I am getting Tech Tool 4 tonight and going to try that to fix and optimize OS X. Even if it doesn't fix it and I have to reformat the iBook at least I'll have Tech Tool 4 to keep the system alittle more robust.

Oh and if I have to reformat, I am staying away from 10.3.5! 10.3.4 was just fine for me...

[wesli_1]

Hi,

Since I installed 10.3.5 last night, whenever I try to change my proxy settings, System Preferences crashes.

More specifically, it crashes when I untick the box "Proxy Server Requires Password" for the HTTP Proxy.

It does this even after restarting, repairing permissions, zapping pram etc.

Anyone know how I might be able to fix this?

[thepreludedude]

could be a coincidence, but....
since installing on wed. my mail is screwed, keychains and itunes. please see this thread:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=85102
:mad:

[subAtomic]

it broke my stickies .. :mad:

[eyeon]

the 10.3.5 update significantly improved my system. To explain... I had just bought a brand-spanking new dual 2.0GHz G5 and from day one was having problems with devices and CD's and other peripherals mounting on the desktop. I was on the phone with Apple tech support pretty much every day for almost a month trying to work through the issue... they eventually forwarded a bunch of my system information to the development team at Apple to see if they could make sense of it (yes, it was THAT BIG of a problem) and eventually, in the midst of it all, I installed the 10.3.5 update and ever since, my system has been flawless... (Knock on wood).

So, the update helped out my system significantly. And I'd like to think my problem was considered in the programming of the update:)

[aus_dave]

Windows networking is as bad as ever - I can see this being a continual problem with Panther for me. I hate to say it but Win2K is far more robust when it comes to finding other systems on the network.

[DavidFDM]

I lost access to Address Book and iChat doesn't seem to work. I am running 10.3.5 on a Quicksilver G4/867 1.5GB 60Gb+80Gb box.

[wrldwzrd89]

Windows networking is as bad as ever - I can see this being a continual problem with Panther for me. I hate to say it but Win2K is far more robust when it comes to finding other systems on the network.
How funny you should mention that - ever since I updated to 10.3.5, my Windows networking works flawlessly - better than 10.3.4, which would sometimes drop the connection for no good reason. However, the success is only one-way. I can connect to my Mac from my Windows machine perfectly, but my Windows machine refuses to play nice with my Mac when I try to connect to it. I get -36 errors (some data could not be read or written), which I didn't get under 10.3.4.
UPDATE: Windows networking now works properly. I can see my Windows machine in Network, log in, and create a quick link to it in my Dock. I'm happy with 10.3.5 now!

[OSX Panther]

the new update seem to mess up the whole system! even terminal!

[dr_lha]

10.3.5 broke my ability to mount my Sony Clie TH55's memory stick on the Mac desktop (achieved using Missing Sync 4.0). Apparently Mark/Space know about this but there's no fix as yet :(

Otherwise everything seems fine.

[da12vid]

after loading the latest upgrade on my 800mhz g4 I am no longer able to run third-party programs such as explorer, appleworks, word, photoshop 7 and others.

I get error messages like this

The application "AppleWorks" could not be launched because of a shared library error: "2<AppleWorks><AppleWorks><CarbonLib><VisibleLength>"
I ran disk utilities and disk warrior but it didn't help

UPDATE -- After posting this I tried redownloading the upgrade and reinstalling. So far, 10 minutes later, everything is opening at least so I seem to be back in business