Replacing the HD looks pretty easy to me, but for those more timid, I'm sure Apple will offer reasonable labor prices.
Please don't say replacing HD is easy. Apple screwed that one as well big time with their custom firmware for temp control.
Replacing the HD looks pretty easy to me, but for those more timid, I'm sure Apple will offer reasonable labor prices.
I don't now about the rest of you, but I prefer to sell my old machine and upgrade very 2-3 years. I don't throw it away like someone ridiculously mentioned.
It was me. I own a mid-2009 MBA that still works (yes, with ML) but is slowly falling into pieces, like starting to freeze, overheat, etc. Not to mention the scratches, the replace soon battery cycles, etc.
How much do you think it's worth on ebay? I doubt more than 100-200$. Really.
It's not even 10% of the price of the rMBP Id like to purchase. That I call throwing away.
I sold my 2009 MBP for $950 this summer. I have always had great re-sell on Macs.
There may be some overhead as well, particularly in the drive adapter. I have seen benchmarks come in slightly slower than SATA III. Its not TBolt per-se but the adapter going from SATA III to TBolt. This will probably disappear in the next generation of drive adapters.
Anandtech found with the Buffalo Ministation Thunderbolt + SSD that there was no difference vs connected via SATA III
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6127/...iew-an-external-with-usb-30-and-thunderbolt/3
"Looking at the QuickBench scores, the Vertex 3 performs just as well inside the MiniStation as it does connected to a 6Gbps SATA controller in our Bench test bed."
Sounds good enough to me to run my Thunderbolt disk off an external enclosure. In fact, I may just RAID 0 a couple of SSDs connected via Thunderbolt. Take that, Apple!
Please don't say replacing HD is easy. Apple screwed that one as well big time with their custom firmware for temp control.
Was that really necessary!? I was simply pointing out that this is the first Apple product that I've even seen that was assembled in the USA.
And besides, it is known, at least here in the US, that products made here a usually higher quality than those made overseas.
Yes i've found this to be true. No difference at all. It just feels a little strange having the boot disk outside the computer. I've done this with eSATA before, but the TB solution is much better than that.
But to be honest, I think this sealed up thing has gone to far. At this point I d rather have a TB display and a Mac Mini.
So it seems the 21.5 Ram is user replaceable. So I don't know why Apple made it so hard to do so that they pretty much had to tell people no point in doing so.
but I think learning how to tinker with the internals is a valuable learning experience,
Here's the deal, iFixit MAKES MONEY from repairing machines and trying to convince users they too can repair crap if they purchase their tools. So their "3 out of 10" is basically just their profit margins going down. Of course they are going to be "disappointed..."
I'm not sure if they missed it, but this is an ALL IN ONE machine, which by their very nature aren't generally easy to bust open and start swapping things out.
Besides, by the time you are in dire need of upgrading the CPU, Intel switches sockets on ya.
In short, it's cool to see how they are put together, but iFixit's "ratings" are dumb when done on devices like this, Apple or not.
Replacing the HD looks pretty easy to me, but for those more timid, I'm sure Apple will offer reasonable labor prices.
First thing I think when I see a design like this is: dust, how the hell can I clean the dust that keeps trapped inside? Forget about hard drives and parts that may or may not fail in the X number of years you plan to use the machine for. If you live in a big city like many do those innards will soon be caked in dust, far sooner your AppleCare runs out.
What is there to to tinker with?
That's not the point, the RAM is in slots so Apple can more easily change the setup depending on what the customer orders, plus it's cheaper than the soldered RAM and more practical if things go wrong. It's the same reason they don't solder in the CPU or HDD.
The only reason they do that in the MBPr and MBA is the lack of space in those designs. The new iMac is relatively roomy inside.
Can't wait for the 27" teardown in a few weeks!
I see your point 100%. But what stopped Apple putting these Ram slots in user accessible spots on the 21.5?
Besides, by the time you are in dire need of upgrading the CPU, Intel switches sockets on ya.
In short, it's cool to see how they are put together, but iFixit's "ratings" are dumb when done on devices like this, Apple or not.
That's complete crap
Never before has the iMac been totally non user serviceable, no ram upgrade at the very least, not to mention when the hdd fails
All in one =/= non user serviceable
Apple just took the cheap way out and used adhesive tape to stick it together rather than designing an alternative system
Tear down is worthless isnt everything in spec's what where thinking its a box of fruite pebbles with a surprise inside