I have mp3 files that I've been dragging along for longer than some of the CDs I've owned.
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Apple Blames Low Mac Sales on iMac Supply Constraints
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I have mp3 files that I've been dragging along for longer than some of the CDs I've owned.
Who cares about the store itself ?
Whats CD's
so there won't be an itunes but indestructable CD's will survive I don't own any CD's the few i did have were disposed of long ago there is nothing nostalgic about CD's i could understand if it was a vinyl record
Whats CD's
I don't own any CD's the few i did have were disposed of long ago there is nothing nostalgic about CD's i could understand if it was a vinyl record
I don't want to start a discussion about audio quality, but for some people compressed formats like MP3 are not suitable for all kind of music. It's not about nostalgia.
The same applies to video (720p in the iTunes store).
Maybe sales are down because people didn't see thinner as enough of a reason to upgrade.
Come on apple.
I've heard rumours that the 2013 iMac will contain an optical drive again, but it won't be accessible by the user. It's called Infusion Drive.
There are many places to buy both from that are not itunes and are 320 mp3s & 1080p movies.
My point was physical products such as CD/DVDs are dead formats.
that's what i told someone the other day. it's like buying an acura over a honda. you are still buying a spiffed up honda at a premium price. overall it will still do the same thing like a regular honda
Doubtful.
The Mac Pro crusade on here is blown out of proportion; many pro users I know or in the fields I have worked in use iMacs, moreso than the Mac Pro. At my current job, for example, we have one Mac Pro and five iMacs.
And many casual users are simply making do with laptops and tablets these days.
But Dell doesn't actually make anything - they just send an RFP to all of the electronics companies in the far east and say "we want to sell a PC compatible with these features at that price point" and then they get examples from each manufacturer and the one that wins is one that gets the best balance of features and price point.
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They do. It's called a Mac Mini and you can even get a monitor with a matte display with it!
This kind of makes me happy; Why? Because consumers are receptive to the supply issue like with any other product and Apple is now feel a slight bit of "pain"...at least 16% worth.
Especially in this society where consumers have a "I WANT IT NOW" attitude, having supply difficulties will really hurt sales. Not to mention the time frame that these problems occurred. In my opinion sales would have been better if they had released it during the holiday season; gifts for others, gifts for yourself, etc!
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Very true!
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You're right, I was certainly angry that the delay was due to them trying to make something "thinner" that really didn't need to be....Come the Ef on Apple....
Especially in this society where consumers have a "I WANT IT NOW" attitude, having supply difficulties will really hurt sales. Not to mention the time frame that these problems occurred. In my opinion sales would have been better if they had released it during the holiday season; gifts for others, gifts for yourself, etc!
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Maybe sales are down because people didn't see thinner as enough of a reason to upgrade.
Come on apple.
Very true!
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You're right, I was certainly angry that the delay was due to them trying to make something "thinner" that really didn't need to be....Come the Ef on Apple....
First, That 0.2% likely has an error bar associated with it that is larger than 1%. IDC figures aren't accurate to the sub single digit percentage range. Apple likely have more accurate numbers than IDC does about Mac laptop sales. At best you can call that 0% which isn't negative.
Second, That isn't even laptop numbers. ( It is a PC shipments graph). If desktops are shrinking faster than laptops can grow then the overall PC market will shrink. Except for AIO desktops the desktop market is shrinking (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-pc-growth-far-exceed-102011146.html ) . If Apple's laptops are aligned with overall PC laptop growth ... then they are probably growing. Growing at the expense of desktops (not expanding the market) but growing none-the-less.
Third, That isn't even worldwide numbers. ( Apple only makes top 4 is narrow range to USA ). Even if take the US number international growth could clearly offset such a small "decline" (or stagnation).
People place way too much emphasis on the 1080p aspect. It's not about 1080p or 720p. If you take Blu-ray, your video is encoded at something like 40 Mbps for the bitrate. Sure it's the same 1080p resolution as your Internet download, but guess what, it's 4 times the quality of that ****** 10 Mbps bit-rate overcompressed crap riddled with DRM you got.
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Look, I was quoting Tim Cook here. He said himself that the numbers were in-line with IDC's number on the conference call. Don't shoot the messenger because you don't like the message. I don't like it either, but it is what it is.
Here, just so you don't keep replying trying to insinuate I'm some kind of "Doom and Gloom poster" :
At least if you're going to be snarky, read the highlights of the conference call geez.
Mac Sales
The economic impact on big ticket items $1000+ has to be huge; it just can't be stated enough. People are focusing on the essentials and what is cheap. If the economy picks up, you can expect Mac sales to pick up as well.
It's all cyclical; just look at the correlation between the economy and new car sales as a similar sort of situation. Many people are delaying buying a new(er) car due to economic reasons and are trying to get "one more year" out of their current vehicle. I believe the same is happening right now in the desktop/laptop market. Anecdotally, I know it's happening in businesses in my area. It was a down year, so a couple that I know have 3-year replacement cycles switch that to 4-years. I think 2013 will be a bounce-back year for the PC industry, Mac included, as businesses like these will likely feel obligated to upgrade, and if the economy picks up at all, perhaps the average Joe will feel comfortable parting with $1000+.
To be frank, I'm quite surprised Mac sales weren't lower, simply due to the economic situation. Apple should actually be celebrating things weren't worse.
The economic impact on big ticket items $1000+ has to be huge; it just can't be stated enough. People are focusing on the essentials and what is cheap. If the economy picks up, you can expect Mac sales to pick up as well.
It's all cyclical; just look at the correlation between the economy and new car sales as a similar sort of situation. Many people are delaying buying a new(er) car due to economic reasons and are trying to get "one more year" out of their current vehicle. I believe the same is happening right now in the desktop/laptop market. Anecdotally, I know it's happening in businesses in my area. It was a down year, so a couple that I know have 3-year replacement cycles switch that to 4-years. I think 2013 will be a bounce-back year for the PC industry, Mac included, as businesses like these will likely feel obligated to upgrade, and if the economy picks up at all, perhaps the average Joe will feel comfortable parting with $1000+.
To be frank, I'm quite surprised Mac sales weren't lower, simply due to the economic situation. Apple should actually be celebrating things weren't worse.
I'm won't deny that, there are people that need more then 32GB of RAM, more than 4 cores, want to pick their own display, and more than a mobile GPU. Then there are those of us that need more than one HDD. There is no compelling reason right now to buy either of these Mac desktops.
It is extremely likely he was refering to IDC numbers on Laptop ( comparing Apples to Apples) growth. (i.e., folks who have the actual read IDC report not the freebie summary they hand out). Not general PC growth. It would be goofy to compare Mac laptops to discount netbooks and desktops. They are different markets.
You have not referred to IDC laptop/portable growth numbers. There is not tangible message here. Misdirection. Cherry picked facts.... no message.
At least if you're going to be snarky, read the highlights of the conference call geez.
I read both the transcript yesterday and the link you attached. Apparently you missed the part during the conference call where Cook warned against folks speculating about Apple's status using incomplete and inaccurate data.
Or perhaps more people still use an optical drive than Apple thought and people find it stupid to buy a desktop computer and then have to use an external optical drive when it should be built in.
No message ? You're the one who twisted around my initial post to nitpick this little tidbit in order to setup some kind of "Descontruct60 is the good guy Apple lover vs KnightWRX, the bad bad Apple hater".
Frankly, I don't want to play your silly black and white game. Now go back to my original post, and do you have any insight into the actual message I was trying to make, that is the worrying aspect of this Mac YtoY decline, its position as barely 10% of Apple's revenue and what it could mean for future slowed development of the platform as the market more and more turns into a sustaining business rather than a growth opportunity ?
If you're only going to reply in some attempt to polarise and fight, please don't.
Then he should have given the break down. He didn't, simply offering that "portables were in line with IDC's market growth". Not even stating which IDC metric he's referring to. I picked "Apple's US growth" as a starting point for discussion, I could have picked the even worse "PC Market world wide growth" which was at a whopping -6% off the top of my head, but no, I went with sustained sales of portable at -0.2%.
So please, don't make me into a bad guy and ignore my actual point I was trying to discuss, this is horrible and it happens all the time.
Why are you guys so defensive damnit ? Can't we discuss things rationaly rather than always have to bicker back and forth ?
As long as Apple can QUICKLY learn from it's mistakes, it's fine.
The problem with most companies today, is they don't "acknowledge" their mistake and continue to make the same ones.
Apple has admitted to the map problem, so we know they are working on a solution.
The problem with most companies today, is they don't "acknowledge" their mistake and continue to make the same ones.
Apple has admitted to the map problem, so we know they are working on a solution.
Apple fixed the mistake quickly. The big mistake was Q3 '12 where they barely made their own guidance. Q4 '12 was better, they were above their own guidance, but right under analysts' predictions. Same for Q1 '13, but even closer.
They've also issued statement about their next guidance, warning about adjustment to their conservative nature so that analysts' don't overshoot as much next time :
Perhaps in 5-10 years. At the moment, it would be hell to use an iPad for my editing work. As it stands, my 12-Core Mac Pro with SSD and 32GB RAM does a decent job in a good amount of time, I'd be screwed using an iPad (or even loaded iMac).