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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:27 PM   #1
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Apple's Split with Google Over iOS Maps Driven by Turn-by-Turn Navigation Dispute




Reports about the high-profile split between Apple and Google that saw Apple replace its Google-powered Maps app for iOS with its own solution have continued to trickle out, with AllThingsD now reporting that the lack of turn-by-turn directions on Google's Maps app for iOS was the key motivator for Apple.
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[M]ultiple sources familiar with Apple's thinking say the company felt it had no choice but to replace Google maps with its own because of a disagreement over a key feature: Voice-guided turn-by-turn driving directions.

Spoken turn-by-turn navigation has been a free service offered through Google's Android mobile OS for a few years now. But it was never part of the deal that brought Google's maps to iOS. And Apple very much wanted it to be. Requiring iPhone users to look directly at handsets for directions and manually move through each step while Android users enjoyed native voice-guided instructions put Apple at a clear disadvantage in the mobile space. And having chosen Google as its original mapping partner, the iPhone-maker was now in a position where an arch rival was calling the shots on functionality important to the iOS maps feature set.
Apple reportedly pushed hard for voice navigation in Google's maps on iOS, but Google was unwilling to hand over the functionality without concessions from Apple. As detailed by other sources, Google was seeking greater control over the mapping experience on the iPhone, such as Google branding and Google Latitude integration, concessions Apple was unwilling to make.




Combined with the deterioration of the overall Apple-Google relationship and Apple's concerns that Google was collecting too much information from iOS users, Apple ramped up its mapping efforts in order to bring its own turn-by-turn directions to the device, ultimately deciding that it could afford to do away entirely with Google's maps.

Article Link: Apple's Split with Google Over iOS Maps Driven by Turn-by-Turn Navigation Dispute
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:29 PM   #2
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Well that makes me feel a little bit better about the crappy map data. I'd rather have turn-by-turn.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:29 PM   #3
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:29 PM   #4
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I'd always figured the lack of turn by turn was about control.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:29 PM   #5
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They had all of these disputes yet google was still surprised guys.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:29 PM   #6
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A bit ironic that the dispute was driven by turn by turn directions...
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:30 PM   #7
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Best explanation yet

This is the best explanation yet for how Apple got in to this mess. It seems like a good reason for Apple to break ties with Google, and I have faith that very soon... weeks or months, Apple's map app will be very good, even superior to what Google offers. Thanks for the article
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:30 PM   #8
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I love the new turn-by-turn. But Apple does need to step it up. I'm surprised that they'd release it as is given they had a year left with Google to work on it.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:30 PM   #9
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I think John Gruber laid it out best by showing this as '3 options Apple faced'. When you look at it that way it makes more sense. (Even if you still don't like it.)

It was like a band-aid that Apple needed to pull off. They decided to do it quickly. Very painful, but probably better than dragging it out longer.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:31 PM   #10
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:31 PM   #11
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It's no secret Google has been holding back on iOS Maps. While this all sucks it seemed it was inevitable. Neither party wants to give more access to the other.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:31 PM   #12
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Well that makes me feel a little bit better about the crappy map data. I'd rather have turn-by-turn.
Still think they could have done both. They didnt need to kick google out before they launched Apple maps.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:32 PM   #13
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considered response

It might have been a more considered response upon Apple's part to introduce the new Maps with iOS 6, without canning the existing Google-based version.

That way they'd have had a year (the year remaining on their contract) to get the new version up-to-speed.

Instead they're dealing with a first-rate cluster****.

This is a rare, self-inflicted fiasco.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:32 PM   #15
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YEY now i have turn by turn directions that tell me to merge on a freeway that is no where in sight! But i still have hope one day it will get better...first mms, then copy/paste, now maps...i wonder whats next? Search engine?
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:33 PM   #16
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The question is when do they dump Google as the default search engine for iOS.
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I think John Gruber laid it out best with the 3 options Apple faced. When you look at it that way it makes more sense. (Even if you still don't like it.)

It was like a band-aid that Apple needed to pull off. They decided to do it quickly. Very painful, but probably better than dragging it out longer.
Not the first time he stated that either (although this is the best he has explained it).
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It might have been a more considered response upon Apple's part to introduce the new Maps with iOS 6, without canning the existing Google-based version.

That way they'd have had a year (the year remaining on their contract) to get the new version up-to-speed.

Instead they're dealing with a first-rate cluster****.

This is a rare, self-inflicted fiasco.
Improvements require user feedback. If google maps stayed the folks would never opt to use apple maps. It was a necessary evil.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:34 PM   #20
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Maybe iOS 6.5 can reverse this Map direction and go back to a new and improved Google Maps.

Keep the Apple Maps as a free Joke App.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:35 PM   #21
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So basically both sides were stubborn bastards.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised. The price of progress I guess...
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Good. Who the hell wants Google's stupid branding all over things when the product is paid for already?
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:38 PM   #23
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Google will be better off with a tird party app in the app store for people that don't mind using Google services. It wouldn't have been right giving Google even more control over core features of the OS which not all users would have wanted IMO.

That way, I get to use a Google maps app that syncs with my Android devices and Google Maps web searches and other users that are averse to Google's business geting get to steer clear of Google with Apple's solution.

Win/Win IMO. Things will get better.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:40 PM   #25
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I don't want my phone slowly turning into an Android. Thank god that Apple pulled away to do things their way. Apple map looks a lot sexier and cleaner than google maps. Give it time and I am sure it will be a lot better. Turn by turn navigation works really well for me and the way apple implemented into iOS is drop dead gorgeous. Doesn't feel cheap and bloated like other other phones.
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