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Old Oct 28, 2012, 08:19 AM   #1
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Should I buy the 2012 MacBook Air 11" or wait for 2013?

I am new to Macs here. Just to confirm is it that a new MacBook Air comes out every mid-year?

To my question. I do not have enough money now and I am buying the MacBook Air 11" with 8GB RAM, 128GB Memory and Core i7 processor in January as I currently do not have enough money. I use it for gaming(LoL and Blackshot, it's ok if you do not no the games), watching YouTube videos and some web browsing. Do you think these specs will still be better then the 2013 "stock" MacBook Air 11"?

And do you think this configurations suit these usages? -Web Browsing, YouTube, Games that do not have that intensive graphics.

And what configuration do you think it is ideal for those usages without gaming?
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 08:24 AM   #2
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The bottom line on these type of questions is this - can you wait until 2013 or do you have a need now for a new computer. If you can wait, then its better for you to do so, if you cannot then buy one now and enjoy.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 08:33 AM   #3
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If I were you, I'd save myself some cash and buy a 2011 refurb. Unless you really want 8gb of ram, but for the uses you state, you could easily get by on 4.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 09:56 AM   #4
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All those people saying 'get a 2011 refurb', 'save your money, in 8 months a new one will be better', etc... make no sense.

I NEVER thought I could play games on my Air. I had a maxed out 2011 Air. Sold it, got a maxed out 2012 Air and here I am... playing The Witcher, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Half-Life 2... all of them at pretty good settings getting 30+ FPS and even 60 FPS sometimes.

Sure, the 2013 will be better.

And the 2014 will be better than the 2013....

8 months is a long time.

Get it now. And if money is no object, get at least i7 8GB and 256 SSD. I did, and I LOVE It. No regrets AT ALL.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 11:46 AM   #5
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All those people saying 'get a 2011 refurb', 'save your money, in 8 months a new one will be better', etc... make no sense.

I NEVER thought I could play games on my Air. I had a maxed out 2011 Air. Sold it, got a maxed out 2012 Air and here I am... playing The Witcher, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Half-Life 2... all of them at pretty good settings getting 30+ FPS and even 60 FPS sometimes.

Sure, the 2013 will be better.

And the 2014 will be better than the 2013....

8 months is a long time.

Get it now. And if money is no object, get at least i7 8GB and 256 SSD. I did, and I LOVE It. No regrets AT ALL.
Did you even read what the OP said? Money is an issue, and he asked if there was a suitable configuration not taking gaming into consideration.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 11:55 AM   #6
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...in January as I currently do not have enough money....
If you're going to be waiting until January, you may as well wait for the 2013 models to come out and if they don't have any great features you want = pick up a 2012 model at reduced prices = win/win!
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 05:17 PM   #7
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If you're going to be waiting until January, you may as well wait for the 2013 models to come out and if they don't have any great features you want = pick up a 2012 model at reduced prices = win/win!
January to June/July = 5/6 months waiting.

Buy now if needed or wait. Always something better coming every year
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 08:21 PM   #8
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If you game, Haswell GPU will be about the same as the 6750m in last year's MBP 15".

I've got a 2011, pretty sure I will upgrade to the Haswell MBA for the GPU and alleged battery life improvements. I'd love a 7-8 battery 11" MBA.

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Old Oct 28, 2012, 10:48 PM   #9
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All those people saying 'get a 2011 refurb', 'save your money, in 8 months a new one will be better', etc... make no sense.

I NEVER thought I could play games on my Air. I had a maxed out 2011 Air. Sold it, got a maxed out 2012 Air and here I am... playing The Witcher, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Half-Life 2... all of them at pretty good settings getting 30+ FPS and even 60 FPS sometimes.

Sure, the 2013 will be better.

And the 2014 will be better than the 2013....

8 months is a long time.

Get it now. And if money is no object, get at least i7 8GB and 256 SSD. I did, and I LOVE It. No regrets AT ALL.
My stock 13" 2012 heats up while playing Minecraft...
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 11:10 PM   #10
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My stock 13" 2012 heats up while playing Minecraft...
Maxed out, I bet.

Minecraft is much, much more demanding that you may think. Do some research.

My maxed out 2012 Air heats up while playing Starcraft II on med-high settings as well.

Still enjoy the crap out of it. And I still think this is the best laptop I can buy for this money.

I HATE plastic and crappy trackpads.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 11:43 PM   #11
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Wait for 2014 when Hasverywell comes out.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 03:41 AM   #12
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Wait for 2014 when Hasverywell comes out.
Actually that was quite funny

But if you game I would consider a console. I've a ps3 and Xbox just for gaming and my laptops for everything else.

Never had good experiences by playing on a Mac - tried the Mac Pro once, and that was but not their laptops
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 05:44 AM   #13
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I just wanna ask, will there be any major upgrades except for processor, maximum SSD capacity and graphics? I dont mind buying the maxed out 11" MacBook Air, but will it still beat out the 2013 "stock" 11" MacBook Air?
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 06:05 AM   #14
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I just wanna ask, will there be any major upgrades except for processor, maximum SSD capacity and graphics? I dont mind buying the maxed out 11" MacBook Air, but will it still beat out the 2013 "stock" 11" MacBook Air?
No one really no until benchmark tests.

Listen; buy one now if you can't wait till july next year. Or wait if you can wait till next year. The new ones will always be better than the old. That's life man
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 07:50 AM   #15
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How is everyone so sure that Apple will not discontinue the MBA line altogether? Also if or when the newer MBA's come next year does anyone here think it would come with a retina display?
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 08:43 AM   #16
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How is everyone so sure that Apple will not discontinue the MBA line altogether? Also if or when the newer MBA's come next year does anyone here think it would come with a retina display?
Why would they do that? Just to have one line of rMBPs? Wouldn't make sense.

Retina 'cause of battery issues
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 09:15 AM   #17
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I am new to Macs here. Just to confirm is it that a new MacBook Air comes out every mid-year?

To my question. I do not have enough money now and I am buying the MacBook Air 11" with 8GB RAM, 128GB Memory and Core i7 processor in January as I currently do not have enough money. I use it for gaming(LoL and Blackshot, it's ok if you do not no the games), watching YouTube videos and some web browsing. Do you think these specs will still be better then the 2013 "stock" MacBook Air 11"?

And do you think this configurations suit these usages? -Web Browsing, YouTube, Games that do not have that intensive graphics.

And what configuration do you think it is ideal for those usages without gaming?
The main question is - can you wait?
I expect Intel's haswell at the very least in apple's 2013 macbook air

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Compared to Ivy Bridge:
Expected at least 10% CPU performance increase.[6]
Expected double the performance of the integrated GPU
Above are the improvements over the current ivy bridge in the 1012 macbook airs.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 02:06 AM   #18
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How is everyone so sure that Apple will not discontinue the MBA line altogether? Also if or when the newer MBA's come next year does anyone here think it would come with a retina display?
1 line of MacBooks doesn't seem right. Apple makes more than one kind of notebook to suit different users and lifestyles.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 02:37 AM   #19
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The air is the best bang for the buck regarding macs
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 11:30 AM   #20
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get a refurbished or wait

I would get a refurbished 11" MBA


right now Apple has a

Refurbished MacBook Air 2.0GHz dual-core Intel Core i7
11.6-inch
8GB memory
256GB flash storage
720p FaceTime HD camera
Intel HD Graphics 4000
$1400 (limited stock)

But I think Haswell will really give more power and efficiency even more than Ivy Bridge. If you don't need the extra horsepower than just get this refurbished.

I think the real question people want to know is the RMBA. Apple skipped RMBA this year but I think next year they won't. I think it will follow the pattern of RMBP and Apple will have regular MBA and RMBA but at a premium price. I think Apple feels confident in the Intel 4000 to run a Retina display so don't expect Apple to put discrete graphics in their 2013 MBA
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I think the real question people want to know is the RMBA. Apple skipped RMBA this year but I think next year they won't. I think it will follow the pattern of RMBP and Apple will have regular MBA and RMBA but at a premium price. I think Apple feels confident in the Intel 4000 to run a Retina display so don't expect Apple to put discrete graphics in their 2013 MBA
rMBA isn't happening anytime soon. Maybe another good 2-3 years. Retina is still new technology.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 11:14 PM   #22
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Get a grip mate, "retina" is a term used by apple.
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Get a grip mate, "retina" is a term used by apple.
I'm referring to the resolution btw. Some webpages and programs look horrible on the retina display, however things that are optimised look brilliant. Its gonna be a few more years till we see more hi-res notebooks.
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I'm referring to the resolution btw. Some webpages and programs look horrible on the retina display, however things that are optimised look brilliant. Its gonna be a few more years till we see more hi-res notebooks.
The resolution is nothing new also, but for it to become standart its a few year like you say; i think it have a lot to do with what you say regarding programs/software maybe websites but i dont think thats too important.
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rMBA isn't happening anytime soon. Maybe another good 2-3 years. Retina is still new technology.
Exactly. If ever..
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