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Old Feb 19, 2013, 08:30 PM   #176
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I hope you get a virus.
Why? For trying to help a guy out?
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 08:31 PM   #177
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Why? For trying to help a guy out?
No. For trying to help a person get a copy of the IOS beta through means other than being a paid dev.

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Posting that is warez and gets almost immediately removed. I would know I already got 2 warnings for it. I don't even know if this is legal for me to say but just google the most recent build number followed by tpb.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:07 PM   #178
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No. For trying to help a person get a copy of the IOS beta through means other than being a paid dev.
You mean OSX not iOS.

But for real, it's not like Apple needs to be charging you to be a dev, they're only the wealthiest company in the world by capital and 18th by revenue. Running the beta as a non-dev isn't hurting Apple, in fact it can be positive considering they would receive more bug reports, with more people using the beta. Now if it were a beta of an actual release build like 10.9 that would cost money when it's released to the average consumer then I could understand the argument of it being stealing potential revenue or something but as it stands I see no problem with testing what will be a free release early, especially if you happen to be someone who is experiencing problems with everyday activity running 10.8.2 . On top of all of that if Apple really wanted to they could easily prevent non-devs from using dev builds just like they did with iOS, but even then you can still get around paying the $100 for that by sharing device access like a bunch of people already do for iOS.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:29 PM   #179
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You mean OSX not iOS.

But for real, it's not like Apple needs to be charging you to be a dev, they're only the wealthiest company in the world by capital and 18th by revenue. Running the beta as a non-dev isn't hurting Apple, in fact it can be positive considering they would receive more bug reports, with more people using the beta. Now if it were a beta of an actual release build like 10.9 that would cost money when it's released to the average consumer then I could understand the argument of it being stealing potential revenue or something but as it stands I see no problem with testing what will be a free release early, especially if you happen to be someone who is experiencing problems with everyday activity running 10.8.2 . On top of all of that if Apple really wanted to they could easily prevent non-devs from using dev builds just like they did with iOS, but even then you can still get around paying the $100 for that by sharing device access like a bunch of people already do for iOS.
That's a deep thought. OS X updates are free so should be the developer builds, simple as that. No one is stealing.

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:30 PM   #180
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I was not asking for a non-Apple source for the beta. That's why I went on to say that I had registered and had looked on the Apple site. I presumed that I was just not seeing the correct download link. After what I paid for my Apple gear there's no way I'd use a download from some warez site to install an OS.

Apologies if I caused any mis-understanding.

On another topic, when I got the iMac, I started it and it was 'up' so long that when we eventually had a power failure I couldn't remember where the power switch was. That was in the Snow Leopard days. Just thought I'd mention it as a counterpoint to all the power-down issues folks are having.

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:45 PM   #181
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I was not asking for a non-Apple source for the beta. That's why I went on to say that I had registered and had looked on the Apple site. I presumed that I was just not seeing the correct download link. After what I paid for my Apple gear there's no way I'd use a download from some warez site to install an OS.
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On another topic, when I got the iMac, I started it and it was 'up' so long that when we eventually had a power failure I couldn't remember where the power switch was. That was in the Snow Leopard days. Just thought I'd mention it as a counterpoint to all the power-down issues folks are having.

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So you can't find you power button on your iMac?

Or are you giving us a better way to shutdown (by pulling the plug)?
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 11:45 PM   #182
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I was not asking for a non-Apple source for the beta. That's why I went on to say that I had registered and had looked on the Apple site. I presumed that I was just not seeing the correct download link.
https://developer.apple.com/programs/mac/
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 12:01 AM   #183
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So you can't find you power button on your iMac?

Or are you giving us a better way to shutdown (by pulling the plug)?
No, I found it. And, no, I don't recommend just pulling the plug. Like most people here I can get irritated by some of the shortcomings in OS X or with Apple. The point I was making is that having moved from an almost 100% Windows environment to Apple it's easy to forget the nightmares of dealing with the various releases of Windows. Vista comes to mind! So sometimes I'm willing to cut them some slack.

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Old Feb 20, 2013, 10:36 AM   #184
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The point I was making is that having moved from an almost 100% Windows environment to Apple it's easy to forget the nightmares of dealing with the various releases of Windows. Vista comes to mind! So sometimes I'm willing to cut them some slack.
How long are you people going to wave the "Vista" flag? It's getting old.

Eventually it was fixed AND... MS still supports it. Apple could learn a thing or two on this.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 01:30 PM   #185
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That's a deep thought. OS X updates are free so should be the developer builds, simple as that.
Apple isn't charging for the betas, they're charging for the dev program which includes other stuff as well. The reason they don't release the betas to the general public is because they are betas, and many people would install them without understanding what that means and complain that they had all the issues you'd expect from a beta.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 04:13 PM   #186
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 05:04 PM   #187
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This is getting ridiculous ... Retina Macbooks needs this update badly
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 06:09 PM   #188
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If the official release doesn't come out tomorrow, I'll eat my hat. If it DOES come out tomorrow, but does not address the Safari garbage and other obvious bugs on my rMBP, I'll eat my cat.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 06:17 PM   #189
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If the official release doesn't come out tomorrow, I'll eat my hat. If it DOES come out tomorrow, but does not address the Safari garbage and other obvious bugs on my rMBP, I'll eat my cat.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 07:09 PM   #190
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This is a long stretching release.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 03:04 AM   #191
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If the official release doesn't come out tomorrow, I'll eat my hat. If it DOES come out tomorrow, but does not address the Safari garbage and other obvious bugs on my rMBP, I'll eat my cat.
Could you please stream it live for us?
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 10:31 AM   #192
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This is getting ridiculous ... Retina Macbooks needs this update badly
Totally agree, although the UI lag, and audio glitches are not only effecting rMBP. But the point is...WHERE IS THE UPDATE?? Come on Apple.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 12:07 PM   #193
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I want pics of the guy eating his hat and/or cat.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 01:32 PM   #194
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I'm so tired of waiting for this...
I can't fully migrate to my new Mac without proper Windows 8 support, and looks like by the time 10.8.3 will be released I will be on my next Mac already
Window 8 support ( not really needed IMHO) doesn't even seem like it is on the radar for Apple.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 01:34 PM   #195
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Window 8 support ( not really needed IMHO) doesn't even seem like it is on the radar for Apple.
It is. Apple is waiting for Microsoft to make some changes.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 02:02 PM   #196
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Hold your horses, Release any minute now.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 02:43 PM   #197
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Hold your horses, Release any minute now.
any minute? Are you speaking from a position of knowledge?.. or?
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 02:44 PM   #198
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I want pics of the guy eating his hat and/or cat.
You guys are being mean. It's not right to make fun of anyone's anger. How would you like it if anyone made fun of YOUR anger? By the way, noiseordinance, I feel the same way you feel about the long wait for the release. I sure hope that Apple releases it to the public today and NOT another beta.
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any minute? Are you speaking from a position of knowledge?.. or?
He's just guessing
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Window 8 support ( not really needed IMHO) doesn't even seem like it is on the radar for Apple.
Isn't support for it added in 10.8.3? That sounds pretty on the radar to me.
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