Piracy is theft let's be honest adults here. I hate re-arguing a almost mute point because it must of been said tons of times in this topic. Demos would solve alot of problems though personally I've played alot of games I paid for that were horrible. I really think development companies should invest in making demos even if it's a 5-10 day trial period. It might cut down on piracy. I don't know thought I'm just saying what I think.
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Piracy Cripples iOS Game in Less than a Week
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That's ok, you just keep your head firmly in the sand. (Or whatever dark place you have it lodged.)
you're right i don't pay for apps! i steal them all and i don't care
We all knew that already.
Here I point the finger at apple for not giving us an easy "trial" option for paid apps. If we had the chance to install a game, test it, if we liked it we keep it and pay that would eliminate the need to pirate apps. I know for me, I have said oh 3.99 for this app that I don't know if it's going to work, so I won't download it.
I proudly pirate apps that asks for a monthly subscription, they're trying to steal me and I'm outsmarting them!
I'll never pirate an app or a game if the developer asks for a one time purchase, even Video Games which normally costs 60$.
I'll never pirate an app or a game if the developer asks for a one time purchase, even Video Games which normally costs 60$.
No, you're not outsmarting them. You're being an entitled individual.
It's great that we all get to set our own price and terms for things we want without consulting with the property owner.
The other day I walked over to my neighbour's house and brought his 4K TV home with me. Left him a fiver. See, we'd talked about me buying it and he offered an installment plan. He was trying to steal from me! Luckily, I outsmarted him.
Lol, just kidding, you're a piece of human trash, dude.
This is why I switched over to Linux Mint for my PCs. I'll admit I pirated a lot of software at one time. However I started to feel guilty for it and changed my ways. So I got rid of the pirated windows and other softwares and went with Linux Mint which is free and comes with a whole suite of free software that does as much or more than the software I was pirating. It already had pretty much everything I needed out of the box. I have installed very few programs onto it so far, both on my desktop and laptop.
Point here is, if you just take time and look, you will often come across a free app that does what you are looking to do very well, and perhaps better than the paid app.
Point here is, if you just take time and look, you will often come across a free app that does what you are looking to do very well, and perhaps better than the paid app.
I still think it's important to conceptually differentiate piracy from theft. They are different issues, and there are different solutions to them.
Saying that piracy is theft is implying that the ways you fight theft can also be used to fight piracy, which is wrong. I think if people are serious about fighting piracy, and protecting the rights of content owners and creators, they will stop thinking of it as an analogy to theft as that analogy is not helpful to dealing with the problem. Locks, security cameras, safes, etc do not address piracy.
The problem is illegal or unauthorized copying. The alternative is legal or authorized copying (either through purchase or subscription or whatever). The two are opposite options that coexist in the broader market. This is the right framework to begin attacking the problem, I think. How do you draw market participants away from the bad option and incentivize them to select the good option?
Saying that piracy is theft is implying that the ways you fight theft can also be used to fight piracy, which is wrong. I think if people are serious about fighting piracy, and protecting the rights of content owners and creators, they will stop thinking of it as an analogy to theft as that analogy is not helpful to dealing with the problem. Locks, security cameras, safes, etc do not address piracy.
The problem is illegal or unauthorized copying. The alternative is legal or authorized copying (either through purchase or subscription or whatever). The two are opposite options that coexist in the broader market. This is the right framework to begin attacking the problem, I think. How do you draw market participants away from the bad option and incentivize them to select the good option?
Of course piracy is theft. What makes you guys think it's anything but.
It's a product for sale.
Did you purchase it?
If you are using it and the answer is no, then you stole it.
It's that simple.
It's a product for sale.
Did you purchase it?
If you are using it and the answer is no, then you stole it.
It's that simple.
No, it’s not theft it’s copyright infringement. Theft would be someone stealing your car. You are then deprived of a car. If someone copies something the original owner still has their copy. If the copier wasn’t ever going to pay for the item then arguably the creator of the thing has lost nothing either. I’m not saying it’s right but it isn’t theft.
Come on, copyright infringement is a form of theft. It seems like you think it's wrong or mostly wrong anyway, so what's the point in splitting hairs?
If it was possible to catch all the pirates and string them up by their balls, then the developers could spend their time improving the gameplay. Maybe that's a nice idea for a game. Catch pirates and hurt them where it hurts. I wonder whether that would get pirated.
I just find it tiresome when people apply an overly simplistic view to something. It isn’t theft, people need to label it appropriately.
do you also label your rent as theft?
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I wonder how you would react if your employer didn't pay you this month
here's a bridge, now get over it?
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untrue
the producer is deprived of his cashflow
money was stolen
The app could send encrypted Apple ID information that only Apple can decrypt... Send a confirmation request to Apple’s servers and Apple could return a response saying “yes this person is legitimate and paid for the game”. It is possible, just guess Apple don’t do it for some reason.
You're arguing semantics. The point is that pirating games is illegal and immoral.
But the online game does have cost of goods sold - the server and bandwidth costs for the pirate users - so the analogy does apply. On the other hand, your comparison to trying out headphones has two separate problems: (1) there are actual costs to the developer during the "test" period - more like "testing tires", which can't be returned due to wear not being recoverable, and (2) if you attempt too many returns, most retailers will stop you from doing so in the future.
I agree that ip piracy is not identical to theft in some cases, but in this case, it most clearly is.