Lion + Steam = No (Update: YES) (Update 2: YES AGAIN)

[rmbrown09]

Update Post:

Thanks to stevemr123
Steps to get Steam working on Lion 10.7
don't be scared


TRY JUST THIS FIRST!!
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/Steam/.crash

ok so you're like man Lion is sweet, but Steam doesn't work. It just launches and hangs there bouncing forever in the dock.
Have NO FEAR!11!!!one!

Step 1: This will unhide your library folder so you can get to the Steam folder (we need to delete it)


Step 2: Follow the path like so. Delete the whole Steam folder, that's what it took for me. (WARNING: You will lose all your downloaded games, so it will be download central for you after)


Step 4: Open Steam back up, Voila

[roadbloc]

Just wait for Valve to fix it. Since this Valve we are on about, it is guaranteed to be late. Go back to Snow Leopard or play something else in the time being.

[Alaerian]

See definition of "Valve Time"

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time

[mrsir2009]

And valve will only fix it when Lion is released to the public - They're not going to fix steam for Lion now so that a few people with dev previews can use it

[rmbrown09]

Originally Posted by mrsir2009

And valve will only fix it when Lion is released to the public - They're not going to fix steam for Lion now so that a few people with dev previews can use it

I guess I don't understand what Lion would do to break Steam.

[Tharian]

It was working for me on preview 1. At least, I downloaded and installed Steam, and then downloaded and played Civ 4.

I haven't tried it in preview 2 yet.

-d

edit: Ah, I think you meant you can't play online with Steam. I didn't try that so I suppose you can disregard my testimony.

[rmbrown09]

Originally Posted by Tharian

It was working for me on preview 1. At least, I downloaded and installed Steam, and then downloaded and played Civ 4.

I haven't tried it in preview 2 yet.

-d

edit: Ah, I think you meant you can't play online with Steam. I didn't try that so I suppose you can disregard my testimony.

Yea try it with two. I am going to reinstall it one more time and see what happens, it was very strange however that the first time Lion booted after it installed, Steam changed to auto start at login.

[roadbloc]

Originally Posted by rmbrown09

I guess I don't understand what Lion would do to break Steam.

I sense that you're not a developer then. Meaning you have bought the Developer Preview for consumer use. Which is a rather daft thing to do.

[rmbrown09]

Originally Posted by roadbloc

I sense that you're not a developer then. Meaning you have bought the Developer Preview for consumer use. Which is a rather daft thing to do.

I am a freshman in college in computer science. No I am not.

[Tharian]

Originally Posted by roadbloc

I sense that you're not a developer then. Meaning you have bought the Developer Preview for consumer use. Which is a rather daft thing to do.

Why all the scolding? Does his downloading the preview affect you in any way?

E-thugs are my favorite kind of thug! Because they're all so big, bad and scary :roll eyes:

-d

[roadbloc]

I'm hardly bullying. I just don't see the attraction for paying for buggy previews if you have no reason to use them. If it was free, then yeah, why not if you have an afternoon free and a burning curiosity to try out an early version of Lion. But to pay for something which causes nothing but computer use headaches? I don't get it.

Each to their own I guess.

[rmbrown09]

Originally Posted by roadbloc

I'm hardly bullying. I just don't see the attraction for paying for buggy previews if you have no reason to use them. If it was free, then yeah, why not if you have an afternoon free and a burning curiosity to try out an early version of Lion. But to pay for something which causes nothing but computer use headaches? I don't get it.

Each to their own I guess.

If it makes you feel better I didn't pay for it.

[mrsir2009]

Originally Posted by rmbrown09

If it makes you feel better I didn't pay for it.

Pirate!

[rmbrown09]

Originally Posted by mrsir2009

Pirate!

Could be, could be a family member paid for my dev account

[Let's Sekuhara!]

Steam never worked for me anyway, past the first month or so of its release for Mac.

Just keeps saying "Steam needs to be online to update. Please confirm your network connection and try again."

Since Steam offers no phone number or email for support it's been this way for ages. I've just given up and become a bitter anti-Steam-ist. I'm hoping the Mac App Store will crush it out of existence.

[roadbloc]

Originally Posted by rmbrown09

Could be, could be a family member paid for my dev account

Uhuh.

[rmbrown09]

Originally Posted by Let's Sekuhara!

Steam never worked for me anyway, past the first month or so of its release for Mac.

Just keeps saying "Steam needs to be online to update. Please confirm your network connection and try again."

Since Steam offers no phone number or email for support it's been this way for ages. I've just given up and become a bitter anti-Steam-ist. I'm hoping the Mac App Store will crush it out of existence.

Don't think that will ever happen. HL2, TF2, Portal and CSS are all Valve games that I'm sure they would never make available in the app store. Those 4 games alone will keep Steam for Mac alive.

[roadbloc]

Originally Posted by rmbrown09

Don't think that will ever happen. HL2, TF2, Portal and CSS are all Valve games that I'm sure they would never make available in the app store. Those 4 games alone will keep Steam for Mac alive.

Unfortunately I +1 this. Steam was a godsend when it first came to Mac, but quickly became sour when porting houses boycotted it. I think the Mac App Store will easily win Steam, but Steam will still and always be needed for Valve games.

[maflynn]

Originally Posted by rmbrown09

Could be, could be a family member paid for my dev account

That's still piracy.

[mrsir2009]

Originally Posted by roadbloc

Unfortunately I +1 this. Steam was a godsend when it first came to Mac, but quickly became sour when porting houses boycotted it. I think the Mac App Store will easily win Steam, but Steam will still and always be needed for Valve games.

I like steam for my games better than the app store for the game management and social facilities

[NameUndecided]

Originally Posted by maflynn

That's still piracy.

I'm trying to wrap my head around how accepting a gift of sorts from somebody would add up to being a pirate.

An effort to keep on topic: I'm not much of a gamer at all, but all of this talk is making me want to try out Steam (for Snow Leopard, for the time being, I guess). Also, I started trying OnLive streaming gaming a few months ago and I've been really impressed about that. Last I tried, it was working for me in Lion. I personally think that there's enormous possibility in that kind of service (OnLive) and I hope that it takes off and becomes more popular and continues to improve and all of that.

[Mackilroy]

Originally Posted by Let's Sekuhara!

Since Steam offers no phone number or email for support it's been this way for ages. I've just given up and become a bitter anti-Steam-ist. I'm hoping the Mac App Store will crush it out of existence.

Not going to happen, and that's for the better. Steam offers better prices (especially for Americans, and even moreso when there's large sales), a unified interface for communicating with friends and playing games with them, and for some games there's Steamplay, which is quite nice.

I guess you never bothered checking Steam's forums (and you're wrong, I've emailed them for support before) for help, eh?
As far as Steam under 10.7 goes, I'd wait until Apple officially releases Lion to try. Less buggy, real support, and who knows what else.

[stevemr123]

Steam hangs frequently, especially if you put it into background. When Steam is in the foreground, and periodically I click on something, it does not hang. When it hangs however, it cannot be restarted, the Steam icon only goes on bouncing forever. There is no any log entry in steam.log indicating any problem though.

Here is what I do if Steam hangs:

1. Go to ~/Library/Steam (/Users/USER/Library/Steam)
2. Copy the SteamApps folder (which contains the downloaded games) to the Desktop
3. Purge the contents of the Steam folder entirely
4. Copy back the SteamApps folder
5. Restart Steam

After restarting steam, I have to enter my username+pass, and accept the confirmation email. Then Steam runs an integrity check on the SteamApps folder, and syncs the savegames from the cloud, and bing, I can play again.

If Steam hangs during downloading a game, the same procedure can be done, Steam verifies the partially downloaded files, and continues downloading.

Valve games (like Portal) work perfectly in Steam, but some of my third party games (like World of Goo, VVVVV) crash upon launch.

[rmbrown09]

Originally Posted by stevemr123

Steam hangs frequently, especially if you put it into background. When Steam is in the foreground, and periodically I click on something, it does not hang. When it hangs however, it cannot be restarted, the Steam icon only goes on bouncing forever. There is no any log entry in steam.log indicating any problem though.

Here is what I do if Steam hangs:

1. Go to ~/Library/Steam (/Users/USER/Library/Steam)
2. Copy the SteamApps folder (which contains the downloaded games) to the Desktop
3. Purge the contents of the Steam folder entirely
4. Copy back the SteamApps folder
5. Restart Steam

After restarting steam, I have to enter my username+pass, and accept the confirmation email. Then Steam runs an integrity check on the SteamApps folder, and syncs the savegames from the cloud, and bing, I can play again.

If Steam hangs during downloading a game, the same procedure can be done, Steam verifies the partially downloaded files, and continues downloading.

Valve games (like Portal) work perfectly in Steam, but some of my third party games (like World of Goo, VVVVV) crash upon launch.

This is on Lion this works?
Edit:
yes this works.

New computer so SteamGuard kicks in.


And voila:

[mrsir2009]

Originally Posted by Mackilroy

Not going to happen, and that's for the better. Steam offers better prices (especially for Americans, and even moreso when there's large sales), a unified interface for communicating with friends and playing games with them, and for some games there's Steamplay, which is quite nice.

I guess you never bothered checking Steam's forums (and you're wrong, I've emailed them for support before) for help, eh?
As far as Steam under 10.7 goes, I'd wait until Apple officially releases Lion to try. Less buggy, real support, and who knows what else.

Yes, the app store apps are monstrously overpriced - Apple should drop the prices to make it more popular.