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Old May 1, 2013, 02:10 PM   #1
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Department of Defense Ready to Approve iOS 6 for High-Security Uses




The U.S. Department of Defense is readying a new government approval for iOS devices to be used by military agencies for nonclassified communications. This is apparently a separate approval from the "commercial mobile device implementation plan" that the DoD announced a few months ago.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the certification would not only allow more widespread use of iPhones and iPads across the military, but would signal to other security conscious companies like banks and law firms that these devices are safe to use.
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Separately, DISA is expected to rule that Apple's latest operating system, iOS 6, conforms to a different security-requirement guide, these people said. That would allow iPhones and iPads to be used by military agencies for nonclassified communications, like email and Web browsing.
The DoD is also preparing to sign off on Samsung's Galaxy line of phones for similar uses.

Article Link: Department of Defense Ready to Approve iOS 6 for High-Security Uses
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:11 PM   #2
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does this mean the president's daughters can finally imessage their friends?
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:16 PM   #3
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If it's just iOS 6, will the DoD stay on that version when iOS 7 comes and play the "one version behind" game until each subsequent update is deemed "safe"?
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:21 PM   #4
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The DoD is also preparing to sign off on Samsung's Galaxy line of phones for similar uses.
Immediately discredits this article, iOS 6 != hardware. And if they're about to useAndroid for "high security" purposes then i'd assume they have pretty low security requirements.
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:21 PM   #5
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It is interesting that they are also approving Samsung devices, despite running Android, which has proven to be less than secure. I wonder if they will approve phones by company or just all of android.
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:29 PM   #6
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If it's just iOS 6, will the DoD stay on that version when iOS 7 comes and play the "one version behind" game until each subsequent update is deemed "safe"?
pretty sure 99% of IT people would agree with you.
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Immediately discredits this article, iOS 6 != hardware. And if they're about to useAndroid for "high security" purposes then i'd assume they have pretty low security requirements.
Samsung's line of Galaxy Phones have something called "Samsung SAFE" which is not part of Android. Like iOS, SAFE provides:
  • Advanced Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync features
  • On-device AES 256-bit encryption
  • VPN connectivity
  • Top-tier, multivendor Mobile Device Management support
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:35 PM   #8
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Yeah sammy being on the list makes me quiver with fear. Android in any form is just a worm hole of hurt in a military environment. I don't care if its Samsung safe that's just balls.
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:46 PM   #9
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Still probably won't install wifi so the devices can actually be used.
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:53 PM   #10
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If it's just iOS 6, will the DoD stay on that version when iOS 7 comes and play the "one version behind" game until each subsequent update is deemed "safe"?
For the DoD to be only "one version behind" would be a huge step forward. I remember working with a government agency who needed their app to run on IE5 when iE8 was the newest version of IE.
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:59 PM   #11
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First time long time...
Only took the US Government 8 months after it was released to approve it. Not too shabby at all.
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Old May 1, 2013, 02:59 PM   #12
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It is interesting that they are also approving Samsung devices, despite running Android, which has proven to be less than secure. I wonder if they will approve phones by company or just all of android.
How has been proven less than secure?

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Android in any form is just a worm hole of hurt in a military environment.
Why?


Good that DoD clears Apple for use
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If it's just iOS 6, will the DoD stay on that version when iOS 7 comes and play the "one version behind" game until each subsequent update is deemed "safe"?
Having worked for the DOD, they generally are a version or so behind, because it takes them a while to approve new software.
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Old May 1, 2013, 03:02 PM   #15
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If it's just iOS 6, will the DoD stay on that version when iOS 7 comes and play the "one version behind" game until each subsequent update is deemed "safe"?
This is always how it works. The approval process is very long. Right now they aren't running the newest versions of Android or Windows either.

NIST has to approve it first. Generally then others do too after NIST does. FBI always takes a year or so in most cases.

This is from having worked with software approval with these agencies in the past. Having said that, it's also partly down to how complicated the program is. Obviously they can approve a small app much quicker than an entire OS. It's also part of how badly they want it. If there is a new app out there that does something they really want (pull passwords from a computer for instance), they'll make that testing and approval happen much quicker (although it can still take a while).
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So, where do I get a "United States of America — Department of Defence"-approved sticker and a hardcore milistyle cover for my iPhone?
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If it's just iOS 6, will the DoD stay on that version when iOS 7 comes and play the "one version behind" game until each subsequent update is deemed "safe"?
Yes, until iOS7 is approved.
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I stopped reading when they said they were approving an Android device.
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I stopped reading when they said they were approving an Android device.
so you still read the whole thing seeing as thats on the last line.....
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Old May 1, 2013, 03:28 PM   #20
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Immediately discredits this article, iOS 6 != hardware. And if they're about to useAndroid for "high security" purposes then i'd assume they have pretty low security requirements.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Knox and SAFE from Samsung is extremely secure.

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It is interesting that they are also approving Samsung devices, despite running Android, which has proven to be less than secure. I wonder if they will approve phones by company or just all of android.
Once again, someone who doesn't know what they are talking about

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pretty sure 99% of IT people would agree with you.
Are you guys really in the bag with Apple this much?

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Samsung's line of Galaxy Phones have something called "Samsung SAFE" which is not part of Android. Like iOS, SAFE provides:
  • Advanced Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync features
  • On-device AES 256-bit encryption
  • VPN connectivity
  • Top-tier, multivendor Mobile Device Management support
Finally someone with some sense

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Yeah sammy being on the list makes me quiver with fear. Android in any form is just a worm hole of hurt in a military environment. I don't care if its Samsung safe that's just balls.
Get over yourself
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Samsung's line of Galaxy Phones have something called "Samsung SAFE" which is not part of Android. Like iOS, SAFE provides:
  • Advanced Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync features
  • On-device AES 256-bit encryption
  • VPN connectivity
  • Top-tier, multivendor Mobile Device Management support
So does this mean rest of the Andorid phones are not secure enough?

I think one thing that is concerning was the report from couple of months ago showing the malware written for different operating systems. Android was clearly ahead. This is of course only one data point. Could mean a lot of different things.
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I stopped reading when they said they were approving an Android device.
Yes, I'm sure you know more about the security on Samsung devices than the US department of defense.
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That's our government! Always on top of things and at the vanguard. How many years until they reach OS7? Yes, I realize it isn't out yet but OS6 is about to become history when the USgov finally gets it.
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I think one thing that is concerning was the report from couple of months ago showing the malware written for different operating systems. Android was clearly ahead. This is of course only one data point. Could mean a lot of different things.
When discussing security that these certifications (and laws) evaluate and require - number of malware is irrelevant. Particularly when the source of said malware happens to be just about the first thing that would be sealed off.

Computer security is about:
Accountability, Authentication, Nonrepuditiation, Integrity, and Confidentiality.
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And if they're about to useAndroid for "high security" purposes then i'd assume they have pretty low security requirements.
Thought the same thing, ridiculous..
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