nothing new at macworld

holy MAC! · Jul 14, 2003, 03:16 PM

if any of you noticed, thinksecret has posted that the apple booth is open.... meaning that there won't be any new products announced.....

plutnicki · Jul 14, 2003, 03:31 PM

Well, that would be a real bummer. But, perhaps a 15" update isn't a NEW product, as much as it is an update to an existing product...

I'm still hopeful that tomorrow's Apple Store will have an updated 15" notebook that is orderable.

Maybe I'm just smoking something.

If there's nothing announced, and I'm buying a new notebook, the question then becomes should I buy the 17" to get the most modern of the laptops available, or should I get the 15" and live with being a few months back...

I don't think continuing to wait is an option, if they don't announce new Pbooks now, then something is holding them up.

...Jim

yzedf · Jul 14, 2003, 03:31 PM

gee... no new PB 15" still?

Suprise surprise...

Can I now say that Apple has dropped the ball? Year of the what again?

Uh huh. Sure. Whatever.

Me thinks SJ needs to think before he opens his mouth. I however do not, seeming as I am infallible (NOT).

<edit>

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/jan/07pbg4_17.html

Jim, the PB 17" is old enough to warrant an update. That is how far behind the 15" is...

</edit>

Mr. Anderson · Jul 14, 2003, 03:41 PM

But tomorrow is Tuesday.....that's when all the rumors say you'll get an update....who knows? But if nothing comes out new tomorrow it will definitely lower my chances of going now....

D

holy MAC! · Jul 14, 2003, 03:43 PM

i hope that this is one of those announments where they dont' have the machines ready to be used.....

it would make sense to follow the apple scheme of trying to kill the assumption that major announments comes at conferences....

but i hope they have one of those "tuesday sprees" where they update everything.... that would be nice......

plutnicki · Jul 14, 2003, 04:26 PM

All of the powerbooks are definitely in need of a refresh, the 15" especially so.

BUT, at least the 17" is fresher than the 15".

Honestly, the current 15" is just fine for my needs, the reason I've been holding off it to try to make sure I get the most for my money (i.e. tomorrow there may be a 1.25Ghz, with Airport Extreme, FW800, 80 GIg HD at the same price point. That would be a bummer to miss...). The Al vs. Ti case isn't a big deal to me, nor a backlit keyboard, nor better graphics.... AE would be nice, as well as a bumped processor.

I still believe something will be happening tomorrow or Wed at the latest.

...Jim

hvfsl · Jul 14, 2003, 04:45 PM

It looks like we will have to wait until MW Paris to see the new PowerBook line.

mcm · Jul 14, 2003, 04:48 PM

Were the 15 inch PBs rumored to be announced Tuesday? Or is it Wednesday? Isn't "Joz's" presentation on Wednesday?

Too much waiting. I want to know now

QCassidy352 · Jul 14, 2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hvfsl
It looks like we will have to wait until MW Paris to see the new PowerBook line.

people have been saying for months "they're just around the corner." my theory is that we see 1.2 Ghz G4 powerbooks in 2006.

jazzman45 · Jul 14, 2003, 04:53 PM

this is just ridiculous, school is right around the corner, and i've convinced at least 3 people to get powerbooks, and i keep saying...just wait a bit, wait a bit... they really need to update these things, i mean 6 months is too long not to update.

Pancake · Jul 14, 2003, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jazzman45
this is just ridiculous, school is right around the corner, and i've convinced at least 3 people to get powerbooks, and i keep saying...just wait a bit, wait a bit... they really need to update these things, i mean 6 months is too long not to update.

I completely agree. I am going to get a powerbook before school starts and I'll be upset if I'm stuck with an out of date one.

QCassidy352 · Jul 14, 2003, 05:00 PM

8 months on the 15". The current line came out in November.

If it were going to be a major revision like a g5 I can see how they would need lots of time, but how on earth can it take 8 months just to bring the 15" up to par with the others?

It's kinda funny, because when Jobs announced the Albooks, he basically admitted several design flaws with the Tibooks, but now 6 months later, they're still selling the same "flawed" (by their own admission) product.

AppleMatt · Jul 14, 2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plutnicki
or should I get the 15" and live with being a few months back...

Of course the old machines still have OS 9 booting...I miss that sorely on my 12"

AppleMatt

johnpaul191 · Jul 14, 2003, 05:02 PM

not that i am holding my breath, but his presentation is Wednesday 09:30 - 10:30 east coast time.....

i wonder if there were 15inch powerbooks out yet? that's about the only thing that might have been tweaked.

this will be the first chance for the public to see/touch the G5 and 10.3 so it will be fun anyway......

dornball · 05:26 PM

they could announce new updated PB G4's, and not have any "on-hand" models to she people.

jOz could say that they are avaiable via the online store. and since it is just G4 updates, its not much to announce, no one makes a big deal of it. a speed-bumoped update ( and bringing the 15" up-to-date with the other 2. that's it.

i think that is possible.

-dornball

wondermite · Jul 14, 2003, 05:12 PM

It would be quite silly to close the booth for TWO DAYS of the entire conference, you gits. And, they do product updates all the time without shrouds of secrecy.

Count on an update of some hardware or software product at MWCP.

jimthorn · Jul 14, 2003, 05:18 PM

I finally picked up a new iBook, so I really hope there isn't a refresh on the iBook line. I'll just cry.

And my money's on the new PB15 not coming out yet. It wouldn't be exciting enough yet. Now maybe by MWSF04, if they can cram a G5 in it...

moosecat · Jul 14, 2003, 05:19 PM

My uneducated prediction is that we see updates of some kind tomorrow, at the Apple Store, and that they are further discussed by Joswiak on Wednesday. Assuming no ridiculousness like a G5, a PowerBook speed-bump and/or minor enclosure update is not the sort of thing that a "feature presentation" should trumpet the release of, but it would be a nice thing for the hardware guy to talk about for a bit.

I think Apple will play it low-key. It would be weird to have giant, secret displays of a PowerBook that is new only in that it has been speed-bumped and/or is encased in aluminum.

O.K. · Jul 14, 2003, 05:19 PM

I think it is obvious, that focus is on G5 PowerMacs only.

Read here:

what is it all about . link

sacrilicious · Jul 14, 2003, 05:29 PM

I'll jump on the bandwagon that a 15" update isn't worth being all secret about. I'm hoping for something blazing fast (and available to order) in September, though.

Freg3000 · Jul 14, 2003, 05:38 PM

Hopefully there will be an update via Apple.com, and the Joz speaks briefly about it at the opening of the keynote, and then gets into the G5. Hopefully.....

sonofslim · Jul 14, 2003, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dornball
a speed-bumoped update ( and bringing the 15" up-to-date with the other 2. that's it.

ugh. if they're just bringing it inline with messrs. 12 and 17, what's the hold-up been? i certainly don't expect to see a new 15" any time this week, probably not this month, and possibly not even this quarter. but when they are released, i really hope they're worth the wait and not just long-overdue speedbumps and candy. backlit keyboards are hunky-dory, but they ain't worth waiting 2 product cycles for.

i've been waiting for a prince in shining 15" aluminum armor for some time now, and i'm seriously thinking about packing it in and buying the current Ti, or maybe even a 14" iBook and just dealing with it.

i'm patient, and totally brand-loyal, but after all this waiting it's like the reality distortion field is wearing off leaving a hangover.

nagromme · Jul 14, 2003, 05:39 PM

MacWhispers has done a 180 and now thinks that not only are G5 PBs not coming soon, but that neither is an Aluminum 15". A new 'Book is still expected soon though: their sources suggest the 15" will get a minor revision to the old Titanium design instead, for now.

Take with salt.

jaedreth · Jul 14, 2003, 06:01 PM

If there were going to be a revision to the 15", it would have happened already. 1) They wanted people to still have the option of getting Titanium in case the user doesn't care about airport or cosmetics... ( IF ) 2) They have likely been working on a revision of the entire powerbook model. Now I think that strategy is stupid. However, the only rational reason I can think of is that they are about to totally redesign the PowerBook line as drastically as they redesigned the PowerMac line, and it's taking them a farging long time. With that said, I bet *no* announcements on Wednesday. First announcement will come in January from San Fran.

Now, that's assuming that rationality can be applied to Apple.

Jaedreth

pimentoLoaf · Jul 14, 2003, 06:06 PM

Well, today isn't tomorrow, so...

Jobs is toying with us. There probably will be something announced, matter-o'-factly, regarding upgrades.

Jul 14, 2003, 03:16 PM	#1
holy MAC! macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2003	nothing new at macworld if any of you noticed, thinksecret has posted that the apple booth is open.... meaning that there won't be any new products announced..... __________________ if you have one mac, one opportunity, would you buy it? or would you let it be outdated?

Jul 14, 2003, 03:31 PM	#2
plutnicki macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2003	That would be dissappointing Well, that would be a real bummer. But, perhaps a 15" update isn't a NEW product, as much as it is an update to an existing product... I'm still hopeful that tomorrow's Apple Store will have an updated 15" notebook that is orderable. Maybe I'm just smoking something. If there's nothing announced, and I'm buying a new notebook, the question then becomes should I buy the 17" to get the most modern of the laptops available, or should I get the 15" and live with being a few months back... I don't think continuing to wait is an option, if they don't announce new Pbooks now, then something is holding them up. ...Jim

Jul 14, 2003, 03:41 PM	#4
Mr. Anderson Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in VA	But tomorrow is Tuesday.....that's when all the rumors say you'll get an update....who knows? But if nothing comes out new tomorrow it will definitely lower my chances of going now.... D __________________ "Klaatu varada nikto!"

Jul 14, 2003, 03:43 PM	#5
holy MAC! Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2003	i hope that this is one of those announments where they dont' have the machines ready to be used..... it would make sense to follow the apple scheme of trying to kill the assumption that major announments comes at conferences.... but i hope they have one of those "tuesday sprees" where they update everything.... that would be nice...... __________________ if you have one mac, one opportunity, would you buy it? or would you let it be outdated?

Jul 14, 2003, 04:26 PM	#6
plutnicki macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2003	Oh, I agree All of the powerbooks are definitely in need of a refresh, the 15" especially so. BUT, at least the 17" is fresher than the 15". Honestly, the current 15" is just fine for my needs, the reason I've been holding off it to try to make sure I get the most for my money (i.e. tomorrow there may be a 1.25Ghz, with Airport Extreme, FW800, 80 GIg HD at the same price point. That would be a bummer to miss...). The Al vs. Ti case isn't a big deal to me, nor a backlit keyboard, nor better graphics.... AE would be nice, as well as a bumped processor. I still believe something will be happening tomorrow or Wed at the latest. ...Jim

Jul 14, 2003, 03:31 PM	#3
yzedf Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Connecticut	gee... no new PB 15" still? Suprise surprise... Can I now say that Apple has dropped the ball? Year of the what again? Uh huh. Sure. Whatever. Me thinks SJ needs to think before he opens his mouth. I however do not, seeming as I am infallible (NOT). <edit> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/jan/07pbg4_17.html Jim, the PB 17" is old enough to warrant an update. That is how far behind the 15" is... </edit>

Jul 14, 2003, 04:45 PM	#7
hvfsl macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London, UK	It looks like we will have to wait until MW Paris to see the new PowerBook line.

Jul 14, 2003, 04:48 PM	#8
mcm macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003	Is it tomorrow or Wed? Were the 15 inch PBs rumored to be announced Tuesday? Or is it Wednesday? Isn't "Joz's" presentation on Wednesday? Too much waiting. I want to know now

Jul 14, 2003, 04:53 PM	#10
jazzman45 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: lawrence, ks	this is just ridiculous, school is right around the corner, and i've convinced at least 3 people to get powerbooks, and i keep saying...just wait a bit, wait a bit... they really need to update these things, i mean 6 months is too long not to update.

Jul 14, 2003, 05:00 PM	#12
QCassidy352 Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston, MA	8 months on the 15". The current line came out in November. If it were going to be a major revision like a g5 I can see how they would need lots of time, but how on earth can it take 8 months just to bring the 15" up to par with the others? It's kinda funny, because when Jobs announced the Albooks, he basically admitted several design flaws with the Tibooks, but now 6 months later, they're still selling the same "flawed" (by their own admission) product.

Jul 14, 2003, 05:02 PM	#14
johnpaul191 macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA	Wednesday is the Joz-note not that i am holding my breath, but his presentation is Wednesday 09:30 - 10:30 east coast time..... i wonder if there were 15inch powerbooks out yet? that's about the only thing that might have been tweaked. this will be the first chance for the public to see/touch the G5 and 10.3 so it will be fun anyway......

Jul 14, 2003, 05:05 PM	#15
dornball macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Denver, CO.	they could announce new updated PB G4's, and not have any "on-hand" models to she people. jOz could say that they are avaiable via the online store. and since it is just G4 updates, its not much to announce, no one makes a big deal of it. a speed-bumoped update ( and bringing the 15" up-to-date with the other 2. that's it. i think that is possible. -dornball Last edited by dornball : Jul 14, 2003 at 05:26 PM.

Jul 14, 2003, 05:12 PM	#16
wondermite macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003	There'll be NEW stuff It would be quite silly to close the booth for TWO DAYS of the entire conference, you gits. And, they do product updates all the time without shrouds of secrecy. Count on an update of some hardware or software product at MWCP.

Jul 14, 2003, 05:18 PM	#17
jimthorn macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Huntington Beach, CA, USA	I finally picked up a new iBook, so I really hope there isn't a refresh on the iBook line. I'll just cry. And my money's on the new PB15 not coming out yet. It wouldn't be exciting enough yet. Now maybe by MWSF04, if they can cram a G5 in it... __________________ Home: MacBook Core2Duo 2.2GHz, 4GB RAM, OS X 10.5.5 Work: iMac G5 20" 2.1GHz, 1GB RAM, OS X 10.4.11

Jul 14, 2003, 05:19 PM	#18
moosecat macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002	My uneducated prediction is that we see updates of some kind tomorrow, at the Apple Store, and that they are further discussed by Joswiak on Wednesday. Assuming no ridiculousness like a G5, a PowerBook speed-bump and/or minor enclosure update is not the sort of thing that a "feature presentation" should trumpet the release of, but it would be a nice thing for the hardware guy to talk about for a bit. I think Apple will play it low-key. It would be weird to have giant, secret displays of a PowerBook that is new only in that it has been speed-bumped and/or is encased in aluminum.

Jul 14, 2003, 05:19 PM	#19
O.K. macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: singharana	I think it is obvious, that focus is on G5 PowerMacs only. Read here: what is it all about . link __________________ O.K !

Jul 14, 2003, 05:29 PM	#20
sacrilicious macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Portland, OR	I'll jump on the bandwagon that a 15" update isn't worth being all secret about. I'm hoping for something blazing fast (and available to order) in September, though.

Jul 14, 2003, 05:38 PM	#21
Freg3000 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York	Hopefully there will be an update via Apple.com, and the Joz speaks briefly about it at the opening of the keynote, and then gets into the G5. Hopefully..... __________________ FregTK This Is Momentum.

Jul 14, 2003, 05:39 PM	#23
nagromme macrumors 601 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Blinking blue dot	MacWhispers has done a 180 and now thinks that not only are G5 PBs not coming soon, but that neither is an Aluminum 15". A new 'Book is still expected soon though: their sources suggest the 15" will get a minor revision to the old Titanium design instead, for now. Take with salt. __________________ nagromme Would you like a treatment?

Jul 14, 2003, 06:01 PM	#24
jaedreth macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In Iraq now	Joz and PowerBooks If there were going to be a revision to the 15", it would have happened already. 1) They wanted people to still have the option of getting Titanium in case the user doesn't care about airport or cosmetics... ( IF ) 2) They have likely been working on a revision of the entire powerbook model. Now I think that strategy is stupid. However, the only rational reason I can think of is that they are about to totally redesign the PowerBook line as drastically as they redesigned the PowerMac line, and it's taking them a farging long time. With that said, I bet no announcements on Wednesday. First announcement will come in January from San Fran. Now, that's assuming that rationality can be applied to Apple. Jaedreth __________________ jaedreth$ sudo -s Password: ******** root# rm -R /*; kill -9 -1

Jul 14, 2003, 06:06 PM	#25
pimentoLoaf macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The SimCity Deli	Well, today isn't tomorrow, so... Jobs is toying with us. There probably will be something announced, matter-o'-factly, regarding upgrades. __________________ A pate is nothing more than a French meat loaf that's had a couple of cocktails....Carol Cutler

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