90nm PowerPCs Arrive

MacRumors · Jan 6, 2004, 05:02 PM

As previously mentioned, Apple introduced the G5 Xserves today.

Of interest, according to the Xserve Technical Overview PDF found on Apple's Xserve product page, the new systems utilize "single or dual 2GHz PowerPC G5 processors using 90-nanometer process technology".

Up until this point, the PowerMac G5s have used 130nm PowerPC 970s. The new 90nm 970 PowerPC chips have reportedly been in production and more information should become available in February when IBM presents the 90nm PowerPCs at the 2004 ISSCC.

While no PowerMac updates were announced today, readers are reminded that Apple has recently broken its pattern of releasing only at expos. Last year's January PowerMac revision came 2-3 weeks after MWSF. Indeed, PowerMacs are promised to reach 3GHz by late summer of 2004, which would place an interim update within the next couple of months.

pb1212580 · Jan 6, 2004, 05:06 PM

yay faster!!!

Phil Of Mac · Jan 6, 2004, 05:06 PM

90 nm, yet it still requires gaping air intakes at the front? Looks like there's quite a bit more work to be done before the G5 is ready for PowerBooks.

dongmin · Jan 6, 2004, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
90 nm, yet it still requires gaping air intakes at the front? Looks like there's quite a bit more work to be done before the G5 is ready for PowerBooks.

Yeah, you won't be seeing dual 2 ghz PBs anytime soon. But what about solo, say 1.8 ghz???

8 fans in the new Xserves:

Mr.Hey · Jan 6, 2004, 05:16 PM

yay they deleted my post and replaced it with yay faster!!

. Good catch and it seems like you're the first to report this news which is huge.

MorganX · Jan 6, 2004, 05:22 PM

Gotta take my hat off to IBM on this one. Great news for Mac-lovers and the XBox Next

ITR 81 · Jan 6, 2004, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dongmin
Yeah, you won't be seeing dual 2 ghz PBs anytime soon. But what about solo, say 1.8 ghz???

8 fans in the new Xserves:

I doubt the PB needs 2 processors to begin with and I believe the Xserves user 8 fans because they need to stay alot cooler then say your normal PB or PM since they are probably in use about 60+% of the time.

bobindashadows · Jan 6, 2004, 05:28 PM

I'm willing to put my money on some kind of update on January 24th... Probably the G5s, but something bigger. I don't buy that their 20th anniversary product is a poster.

CalfCanuck · Jan 6, 2004, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Macrumors
While no PowerMac updates were announced today, readers are reminded that Apple has recently broken its pattern of releasing only at expos. Last year's January PowerMac revision came 2-3 weeks after MWSF. Indeed, PowerMacs are promised to reach 3GHz by late summer of 2004, which would place an interim update within the next couple of months.

I seem to remember from the transcript of the braodcast that Steve mentioned 2004 would be an exciting year for hardware.

We'll see if he keeps his promise!

Sayhey · Jan 6, 2004, 05:30 PM

So, does this mean in a few weeks to a month we get the speed bumps in the PowerMacs? How about 90nm G5s in the iMacs?

sw1tcher · Jan 6, 2004, 05:32 PM

So with the new 90nm procs we'll see new updated PowerMacs and hopefully (crosses fingers) G5 PowerBooks sometime very very soon.

A G5 PB is what I've been waiting for so I can finally switch back to a mac full time.

I mean, Jobs did say that this year was going to be an exciting year for Apple, what with all the new products that'll be announced.

Rustus Maximus · Jan 6, 2004, 05:33 PM

Well...he said within a year we'd see 3Ghz...but we can always be hopeful that it's sooner. At the very least some cool products announcements. GarageBand will be the app of discussion for the next little bit I'd say. Quite alot of power for basically 10 bucks.

Ling · Jan 6, 2004, 05:41 PM

Woah! That machine is hot! Finally a G5 Xserve.

Now...how bout some new Powermacs and a some bigger LCDs... I'm on the market for a new desktop machine!

Grimace · Jan 6, 2004, 05:44 PM

Can we please stop *crossing our fingers* for a G5 Powerbook until the summer?? There is at least a hope for that timeframe.

swissmann · Jan 6, 2004, 05:49 PM

I still think that Steve might wait until Fall for any PowerMac upgrades and go right to the 3 GHz as promised.

ITR 81 · Jan 6, 2004, 05:51 PM

Noticed the new 90mm G5's support hyper-transport protocol's now so this should help speed few things up since more and more apps are now using it.

cb911 · Jan 6, 2004, 05:51 PM

cool. good to see something being made with the 90nm 970's!

hopefully it will be an exciting year for hardware.... i can almost feel the new PowerBook G5!!!

jdang · Jan 6, 2004, 05:52 PM

did i hear wrong or did he say that they license XServe out to Mac OS X Server, Windows XP Pro, Windows Server 2003, and Yellow Dog Linux? What exactly does this mean? Can you run all of these operating systems on this Server?????

iomar · Jan 6, 2004, 05:54 PM

Well, I hope that is true. I was hoping to see new faster G5s today.

ITR 81 · Jan 6, 2004, 05:56 PM

AI is saying new products from Apple are expected on Jan 20th or just shortly thereafter. This could be new G5's in 90mm form??

segundo · Jan 6, 2004, 05:57 PM

I think Powermac G5 updates are just around the corner. Remember, at a smaller process IBM can manufacture more processors at a lower cost so both IBM and Apple have an incentive to move to the smaller chips. This is a "good thing" indeed. I think the real question is whether or not we will see a G5 in a consumer level system in the near future.

Sun Baked · Jan 6, 2004, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ITR 81
Noticed the new 90mm G5's support hyper-transport protocol's now so this should help speed few things up since more and more apps are now using it.

Ooops, you're mixing this up with Intel's Hytperthreading.

Hyper-transport is chip connect technology, similar to Rapid I/O, that is a lot like a packet switch network for the motherboard -- compared to the old parallel cables holding the chips together.

Phil Of Mac · Jan 6, 2004, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jdang
did i hear wrong or did he say that they license XServe out to Mac OS X Server, Windows XP Pro, Windows Server 2003, and Yellow Dog Linux? What exactly does this mean? Can you run all of these operating systems on this Server?????

That's not the Xserve, that's the Xserve RAID.

ITR 81 · Jan 6, 2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sun Baked
Ooops, you're mixing this up with Intel's Hytperthreading.

Hyper-transport is chip connect technology, similar to Rapid I/O, that is a lot like a packet switch network for the motherboard -- compared to the old parallel cables holding the chips together.

My mistake.
But they do look similar...maybe they should start using a word other then hyper.

ShnikeJSB · Jan 6, 2004, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sw1tcher
So with the new 90nm procs we'll see new updated PowerMacs and hopefully (crosses fingers) G5 PowerBooks sometime very very soon.

A G5 PB is what I've been waiting for so I can finally switch back to a mac full time.

I mean, Jobs did say that this year was going to be an exciting year for Apple, what with all the new products that'll be announced.

Yeah, but do we not all remember "The Year of the Laptop" wasn't all that memorable, so "an exciting year for Apple" might now be so "exciting" in the end... Though I ALSO hope for Powerbook G5's by the fall semester, so I can replace this aging G4/667 TiBook I am using now (and have a REAL graphics chip -- 16 mb is nowhere NEAR enough anymore -- Radeon 9800 XT mobility anyone LOL!).

Jan 6, 2004, 05:02 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	90nm PowerPCs Arrive As previously mentioned, Apple introduced the G5 Xserves today. Of interest, according to the Xserve Technical Overview PDF found on Apple's Xserve product page, the new systems utilize "single or dual 2GHz PowerPC G5 processors using 90-nanometer process technology". Up until this point, the PowerMac G5s have used 130nm PowerPC 970s. The new 90nm 970 PowerPC chips have reportedly been in production and more information should become available in February when IBM presents the 90nm PowerPCs at the 2004 ISSCC. While no PowerMac updates were announced today, readers are reminded that Apple has recently broken its pattern of releasing only at expos. Last year's January PowerMac revision came 2-3 weeks after MWSF. Indeed, PowerMacs are promised to reach 3GHz by late summer of 2004, which would place an interim update within the next couple of months.

Jan 6, 2004, 05:06 PM	#2
pb1212580 macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2003	yay faster!!! __________________ ---------------------------------------- PB 12" 1Ghz 1.25G 80G

Jan 6, 2004, 05:22 PM	#6
MorganX macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Midwest	Gotta take my hat off to IBM on this one. Great news for Mac-lovers and the XBox Next __________________ ~Technology is the future, the future is technology~ 10GB iPod w/Dock

Jan 6, 2004, 05:33 PM	#12
Rustus Maximus macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Future!	Well...he said within a year we'd see 3Ghz...but we can always be hopeful that it's sooner. At the very least some cool products announcements. GarageBand will be the app of discussion for the next little bit I'd say. Quite alot of power for basically 10 bucks. __________________ "I'm packing your extra pair of shoes, and your angry eyes, just in case."

Jan 6, 2004, 05:41 PM	#13
Ling macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH	Woah! That machine is hot! Finally a G5 Xserve. Now...how bout some new Powermacs and a some bigger LCDs... I'm on the market for a new desktop machine! __________________ -Ling "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate..."

Jan 6, 2004, 05:06 PM	#3
Phil Of Mac Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Washington State University	90 nm, yet it still requires gaping air intakes at the front? Looks like there's quite a bit more work to be done before the G5 is ready for PowerBooks.

Jan 6, 2004, 05:16 PM	#5
Mr.Hey macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2002	yay they deleted my post and replaced it with yay faster!! . Good catch and it seems like you're the first to report this news which is huge.

Jan 6, 2004, 05:28 PM	#8
bobindashadows macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2002	I'm willing to put my money on some kind of update on January 24th... Probably the G5s, but something bigger. I don't buy that their 20th anniversary product is a poster.

Jan 6, 2004, 05:30 PM	#10
Sayhey macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco	So, does this mean in a few weeks to a month we get the speed bumps in the PowerMacs? How about 90nm G5s in the iMacs?

Jan 6, 2004, 05:32 PM	#11
sw1tcher macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles	So with the new 90nm procs we'll see new updated PowerMacs and hopefully (crosses fingers) G5 PowerBooks sometime very very soon. A G5 PB is what I've been waiting for so I can finally switch back to a mac full time. I mean, Jobs did say that this year was going to be an exciting year for Apple, what with all the new products that'll be announced.

Jan 6, 2004, 05:44 PM	#14
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Jan 6, 2004, 05:49 PM	#15
swissmann macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Utah Alps	I still think that Steve might wait until Fall for any PowerMac upgrades and go right to the 3 GHz as promised. __________________ Always looking for a faster Mac.

Jan 6, 2004, 05:51 PM	#16
ITR 81 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2003	Noticed the new 90mm G5's support hyper-transport protocol's now so this should help speed few things up since more and more apps are now using it.

Jan 6, 2004, 05:51 PM	#17
cb911 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BrisVegas, Australia	cool. good to see something being made with the 90nm 970's! hopefully it will be an exciting year for hardware.... i can almost feel the new PowerBook G5!!! __________________ Thankyou Mr George Hotz for the 1.1.2 & 1.1.3 OTB iPhone unlock solution!

Jan 6, 2004, 05:52 PM	#18
jdang macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003	did i hear wrong or did he say that they license XServe out to Mac OS X Server, Windows XP Pro, Windows Server 2003, and Yellow Dog Linux? What exactly does this mean? Can you run all of these operating systems on this Server?????

Jan 6, 2004, 05:54 PM	#19
iomar macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA	Well, I hope that is true. I was hoping to see new faster G5s today. __________________ MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Due / 3 GB Memory Mac OS X Version 10.5.7 iPhone 3Gs, 32 GB

Jan 6, 2004, 05:56 PM	#20
ITR 81 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2003	AI is saying new products from Apple are expected on Jan 20th or just shortly thereafter. This could be new G5's in 90mm form??

Jan 6, 2004, 05:57 PM	#21
segundo macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado	I think Powermac G5 updates are just around the corner. Remember, at a smaller process IBM can manufacture more processors at a lower cost so both IBM and Apple have an incentive to move to the smaller chips. This is a "good thing" indeed. I think the real question is whether or not we will see a G5 in a consumer level system in the near future.

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