2 McDonald's staff today told me they don't take Apple Pay

[63dot]

Yes there was. I actually sold the phones and the TRS80 in the 70's working part time at Radio Shack while in the service. We've come quite a way. Not sure what everyone including teenagers did back then without their phones--

I remember a TRS80 early adopter. It was a small music store and people totally not into instruments/sheet music would come in and ask to see his computer. The proud store owner would forget he was in a music store and become the world's most awesome TRS80 salesman! It was the first in my town that I can remember and my dad was one of those who had to pay a special visit to see this marvel of technology.

The TRS80 should have been used much more but this lone store did just fine and the local papers did stories on him. He was the future and now it's hard to imagine any small store in town without a computer/laptop. But I did expect all the other stores to follow suit with either the TRS or the Apple IIe but it just didn't happen. That being said, overall sales of both were impressive for things that did not have a market before.

 

[Bkosher84]

Umm, no.

Read up on EMV Tokenization and how it works.

Um, no. You need to read up on how it works. EMV Tokenization has nothing to do with the POS system via NFC (physical card transactions are another story).

 

[deeddawg]

EMV Tokenization has nothing to do with the POS system via NFC (physical card transactions are another story).

Very true. However that's not what you wrote:

there is NOTHING special about Apple Pay compared to [...] Google Wallet. It's the EXACT same technology

Perhaps you meant to convey that the NFC/POS transport layer was the same and other parts were different, but that's not how your post reads.

Also,

with more security on how Apple holds the credit card information. That's it. Nothing else.

Apple doesn't hold the credit card information. See https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/iOS_Security_Guide_Oct_2014.pdf

Full card numbers are not stored on the device or on Apple servers. Instead, a unique Device Account Number is created, encrypted, and then stored in the Secure Element. This unique Device Account Number is encrypted in such a way that Apple can’t access it.

 

[CrAkD]

They had NFC readers at each register.

I got breakfast there this morning never even asked just put my 6+ on it with my thumb on Touch ID beep done.

 

[got556]

Yeah, there are people who want to be able to pay rent and buy food when they work a full-time job. God forbid!

LOL....McDonald's was never meant to be a career....

 

[nickchallis92]

Seems pretty cringe asking McDonalds employees if they accept 'Apple Pay'.

Rather than embarrasing yourself in front of the people behind you who probably want lunch, why don't you just whip out your debit card like everyone else in society?

 

[noobinator]

Seems pretty cringe asking McDonalds employees if they accept 'Apple Pay'.

Rather than embarrasing yourself in front of the people behind you who probably want lunch, why don't you just whip out your debit card like everyone else in society?

so we should go about life caring what everyone else thinks and making our lives more difficult?

You know where you are right?

 

[ElectronGuru]

2 McDonald's staff today told me they don't take Apple Pay

This isn't a low pay problem this is working in a bureaucracy problem. If they say no and they are wrong, they plead ignorance and have not put themselves at risk. If they say yes and they are wrong, they are taking responsibility for an unconfirmed truth and can be punished for giving you incorrect information. They would be claiming a capability they may not have that you would then have the right to complain was then not available.

When dealing with at risk employees, you need to make the question as safe as possible. In this case, ask in the broadest sense possible: do you accept NFC payments or better yet, do your registers have a little wireless logo. They can then look for a logo and report what they see instead if what some machine they don't control can actually do.

 

[phuocsandiego]

Very true. However that's not what you wrote:

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Perhaps you meant to convey that the NFC/POS transport layer was the same and other parts were different, but that's not how your post reads.

Also,


Apple doesn't hold the credit card information. See https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/iOS_Security_Guide_Oct_2014.pdf

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Let me bring back a quote from my game playing days: Bkosher84 got pwnd.

 

[wxman2003]

LOL....McDonald's was never meant to be a career....

Or a place where MR members consistently hang out, but that appears to be the case with all the McDonalds posts.

 

[phuocsandiego]

I read the OP's post as though he was just put through some great injustice in life. One day into Apple Pay and you're forced to pay the "old fashioned" way? Damn...my heart bleeds for you.

The employee may not have been trained on this or simply didn't get the whole Apple Pay thing. As others have stated, simply say you want to pay with your phone and leave Apple Pay out of the conversation. Retailers probably don't care what it is called as long as you pay.

As for bashing McDonald's employees; I've been fortunate to not have to work there, but I've worked fast food and as far as I know, I am far from an idiot.

No kidding. First world problems right?

 

[got556]

Or a place where MR members consistently hang out, but that appears to be the case with all the McDonalds posts.

Ya, I have to constantly remind myself, when it comes to tech, the world is an instant gratification nightmare. Maybe I am wrong, but it is disturbing the amount of people who expect things to work right away, and if they don't, shame on whoever.

 

[spades1412]

LOL....McDonald's was never meant to be a career....

I made McDonald's my career and I'm doing just fine.

 

[got556]

I made McDonald's my career and I'm doing just fine.

Okay, my comment was directed at the line staff expecting minimum wage to be raised to $15....most federal government law enforcement jobs start out at just above $15 an hour....

 

[Symtex]

Don't eat at McDonald, its better for you. You'll thank me later.

 

[TheAppleFairy]

Don't eat at McDonald, its better for you. You'll thank me later.

Crap now I am in the mood for a Jalapeño Double.

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Lets keep the PRSI talk out of the thread please.

 

[sincere11105]

Okay, my comment was directed at the line staff expecting minimum wage to be raised to $15....most federal government law enforcement jobs start out at just above $15 an hour....

Relevance?

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I want to try it but I know I'll look like an idiot trying to flash my phone at the reader and it wont work

 

[63dot]

Relevance?

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I want to try it but I know I'll look like an idiot trying to flash my phone at the reader and it wont work

Exactly.

Like mod said, we all have to try and keep politics out of it. I so want to chime in on our government, minimum wage, Obama versus Ted Cruz, etc, but that's for a different thread. Anyway, I heard there's this thing called Apple Pay, thoughts?

And and for McDonald's, did you know how much they gave to candidates on both sides? oops wrong thread!!

 

[burnout8488]

The systems need to be updated to support the token-style payment system used in Apple Pay.

Their systems may not have been updated yet.

False.

I used Apple Pay at a Burger King last night to test it out. They do not have official Apple Pay support - it just worked.

Home Depot too.

Apple Pay works anywhere NFC payments are accepted.

 

[utahman130]

Any NFC reader will accept it I believe. I bought some snacks from my school vending machine today using Apple Pay

 

[got556]

My apologies for my political type comments. Back to the thread.

Anyone hoping Apple allows for more NFC stuff like Android does where you can have NFC patches in your car, home, etc that are programmed to turn on wifi, bluetooth, lights, etc...?

 

[darkonex]

I made McDonald's my career and I'm doing just fine.

Same with my wife. She's gone through ranks and is now an area supervisor and she makes the same amount of money I do and I've been a network admin for about 8 years. Actually she does a bit better because she also gets a free iphone, ipad, and car!

 

[Zaft]

I havent tried it out yet. I feel like im gonna look like some nerd...ehhh mental block.

 

[darkonex]

I wish I could use it, it won't accept my Chase Visa, Discover IT, or Commerce Visa check card yet