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Laird Knox

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Jun 18, 2010
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And of course, no Thunderbolt support (unless you use one of Apple's exclusive Thunderbolt adapters, priced accordingly).

You know, when is Apple just going to admit this Thunderbolt of theirs is a joke; no one else has adopted it, and it's just too expensive for what few accessories out there.

Can't wait for the MacPro with its octopus-like Thunderbolt cable extensions linking everything to the motherbeast.

P.S. Yes, I'm an Apple user and have been since 1990. I just don't like this walled-in-garden approach they've been taking since 2007.

Apple have a history of trying to create their own standard when there is a perfectly good standard being used by the rest of the industry. Remember Apple Display Connector , Apple connector that ran data and 25V of power to the screen using one cable. Using a non ADC screen on a Pro Mac or an ADC screen on a computer without the ADC connector (this included Mac laptops) required all kinds of adaptors.
You two do realize Thunderbolt was developed by Intel, right?
 

OrangeSVTguy

macrumors 601
Sep 16, 2007
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Northeastern Ohio
Lets hope that happen's with the 4K's, their 27" IPS ones were flawless, and a fraction of the cost. Made it a bit of a no brainer really.

Yeah I bought 3 of the Q-NIX brands and they are the best monitors I've ever purchased. All 3 are(seem) to be flawless. And they overclock to 120hz :cool:
 

Small White Car

macrumors G4
Aug 29, 2006
10,966
1,463
Washington DC
Oh, hello there, beautiful.

Let's say you and me ditch all this bickering and you come home with someone who will treat you right. Yes yes, right this way!
 

Moonjumper

macrumors 68030
Jun 20, 2009
2,740
2,908
Lincoln, UK
Smaller pixel density?

That's the only feasible explanation, but doesn't really make sense to me either.

The 32" version costs a lot more, but should be less by that logic.

Pixel density isn't the only important spec. Colour depth, viewing angles, ports, or one of several other things could be the reason. Lower specification is the likely a factor, but we don't know which specs yet.
 

TouchMint.com

macrumors 68000
May 25, 2012
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Phoenix
I know pixels are not the only important thing but you can get a 39inch 4k display for $480ish today so this just doesnt seem like a good deal to me. I understand its more dense on the smaller monitors but I would rather have a bigger screen to work with.
 

techwhiz

macrumors 65816
Feb 22, 2010
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I know pixels are not the only important thing but you can get a 39inch 4k display for $480ish today so this just doesnt seem like a good deal to me. I understand its more dense on the smaller monitors but I would rather have a bigger screen to work with.

Where can you get that display??
4K for $480? Sign me up now.

Edit -> That's a panel price not a complete monitor.
 

John.B

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Jan 15, 2008
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Holocene Epoch
I know pixels are not the only important thing but you can get a 39inch 4k display for $480ish today so this just doesnt seem like a good deal to me. I understand its more dense on the smaller monitors but I would rather have a bigger screen to work with.

If you only care about the number of pixels, and not the quality of the display, then, by all means, buy the cheapest one you can find.
 

Umbongo

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Sep 14, 2006
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England
On topic though, Apple is not always the first out the gate. They release things when they are ready. They were not the first to implement the panel generation used in both the 27" cinema display and later the thunderbolt display. It was actually the same panel, but that's because desktop display panels have hefty gaps between generations.

They were, they put them in the 27" iMacs before any one else was using them. LG hadn't even announced them.
 

MythicFrost

macrumors 68040
Mar 11, 2009
3,940
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Australia
So I'm guessing the apple version will be around 1600 for the 24

It's so you get the idea for pricing and what panels are available for the Apple's version (if one comes out). Apple doesn't make it's own panels, so if dell releases a 24", chances are apple will.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen. It's less PPI than the rMBP.

I think they'll be a 21.5 inch iMac like there is now with this resolution, and a 27 inch iMac (and TBD) with a 5120x2880 resolution. I hope, anyway.
 

57004

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Aug 18, 2005
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Wow, this is really heading in the right direction!! 24" is the sweet spot for me in terms of screen size, would love a 4K screen at this size. 28 is too big. It would be great to run on my Mac Mini in retina mode.

It's still too costly for me but way cheaper than I expected. Once a 24" 4K comes out at half the price and without 10bit support, it's an instabuy for me. I love the retina look of text and the matte screen would be great too. At least this pro model bodes well for a more budget version soon.
 

pgiguere1

macrumors 68020
May 28, 2009
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And of course, no Thunderbolt support (unless you use one of Apple's exclusive Thunderbolt adapters, priced accordingly).

You know, when is Apple just going to admit this Thunderbolt of theirs is a joke; no one else has adopted it, and it's just too expensive for what few accessories out there.

Can't wait for the MacPro with its octopus-like Thunderbolt cable extensions linking everything to the motherbeast.

P.S. Yes, I'm an Apple user and have been since 1990. I just don't like this walled-in-garden approach they've been taking since 2007.

1) You don't need any adapter for this monitor to work on a Thunderbolt-enabled Mac. It connects straight out of the box on a Mac just like on a PC. You lose nothing compared to a PC user.

2) Apple doesn't sell dedicated Thunderbolt hubs. You seem to be confused as to what Thunderbolt and mini DiplayPort are. Read up before complaining.

3) You didn't pay for Thunderbolt. It's simply an upgrade over mini DisplayPort which didn't remove any feature, didn't take more space on Macs and didn't cause any price hike.

4) How does the fact Thunderbolt has almost no adoption outside of Mac products make it a joke? Is the MagSafe connector a joke as well just because it's not standard and never found on other products? Some professionnals do use it and like it, those who don't use it have absolutely no drawbacks, that's what matters.

5) Why do you even care whether Thunderbolt is a success or a failure if you don't use it? Even if it was unanimously considered a failure, how would it affect you?

6) I'll remind you that Thunderbolt is also in part what made rMBPs thinner, by allowing to remove FireWire/Gigabit Ethernet ports without losing compatibility completely. Even if that was strictly the only thing Thunderbolt did over mDP, it still would have been a nice addition.

While we're at it, why not complain every time new speakers come out and don't support optical audio? MacBook Pros' 3.5 mm output supports optical audio even though 99% of people will only ever use it for analog audio. Why don't people complain about that as well? Just because it doesn't have a fancy marketing name?
 
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aloshka

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Aug 30, 2009
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen. It's less PPI than the rMBP.

I think they'll be a 21.5 inch iMac like there is now with this resolution, and a 27 inch iMac (and TBD) with a 5120x2880 resolution. I hope, anyway.

You can argue that the ipad mini retina PPI is even higher than the iPhone. I think it matters on the distance and screen size. A monitor with a higher PPI would be worthless as your eyes would never see it unless you are 4-5 inches from the screen. I might be wrong, but just makes sense to me.
 

tdream

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Jan 15, 2009
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The Dell version won't be glossy and will have multiple inputs. Oh and it will be cheaper too. This is one of the few areas where I would put Dell above Apple.

Remember the days when matte was standard and glossy was the premium version. Now it's vice versa :rolleyes:
 

AZREOSpecialist

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Mar 15, 2009
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There was a time when Apple was the first to announce ground breaking products. There was a time when Apple announced the first 30" computer monitor, then the first laptop with a 17" screen... now Apple just follows others and is largely in "status quo" mode because it has no drive to deliver anything new ahead of anyone else.

I fear that my Apple may have a worm in it.
 

aloshka

macrumors 65816
Aug 30, 2009
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There was a time when Apple was the first to announce ground breaking products. There was a time when Apple announced the first 30" computer monitor, then the first laptop with a 17" screen... now Apple just follows others and is largely in "status quo" mode because it has no drive to deliver anything new ahead of anyone else.

I fear that my Apple may have a worm in it.

I dunno if that's entirely true. Their sales for a 17" were really low so they discontinued it. I don't think that has anything to do with status quo. Same goes for the 30". It was outdated and at the time, there were no 30" LED monitors so they opted for a 27" instead. In the last year, a ton of 30" LED monitors were released, so not sure why apple didn't jump on that. Ideally they need to release a 4k and a 27" that has the same LCD as the current iMac with no glare.

But come on, they come up with new things. They are the first to release a desktop computer that is a powerful workstation in a small quiet package.
 

osx11

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Jan 16, 2011
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Pixel density is only relevant if both displays have the same resolution with different screen sizes. Otherwise, there is absolutely no reason for the 28" model to be cheaper.

Aren't they both 4K displays? Am I missing something?
 

bitmarket.io

macrumors newbie
Nov 16, 2013
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Care to explain why Dell's version is irrelevant, bearing in mind that they shared the same IPS panel as Apple's 27". Bit strange to dismiss something just because it's not Apple...surely you weren't being that shallow were you?

Apple's version would be the same panel in a different frame, maybe with a magsafe power cable added on or something for another ~$1k.


So what? It's Apple's version. Shiny and sexy. I will buy it over anything.
 

MacVista

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Jun 18, 2007
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I fear that my Apple may have a worm in it.

I think that the time has come for Apple to be more competitive and start going after marketshare.
Jobs is gone, and they don't seem to be able to create anything beyond improving and expanding what has already been invented.
 

bitmarket.io

macrumors newbie
Nov 16, 2013
12
0
You mean the same or worse screen wrapped in aluminum frame?

Damn straight. It'll be better.

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The Dell version won't be glossy and will have multiple inputs. Oh and it will be cheaper too. This is one of the few areas where I would put Dell above Apple.

Don't care. I buy anything that's shiny and has an Apple on it.

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Don't care. Will it blend?

Exactly. I need sexy apple products around my other shiny apple products.
 

gugy

macrumors 68040
Jan 31, 2005
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La Jolla, CA
Nice to see these displays coming out. Hopefully that will put some pressure to Apple release something 4K very soon.
I would love to see the 30" display again and that lovely matte option that makes it so nice to stare at. :D
 
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