Do other sports have as much problem with using the iPod as runners do? I've never even bothered to try and use it when training, just from the number of people who have said you just can't job with it (since it's a hard drive)...
Just wondering.
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4GB 'iPod Mini' and 15GB iPod
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Do other sports have as much problem with using the iPod as runners do? I've never even bothered to try and use it when training, just from the number of people who have said you just can't job with it (since it's a hard drive)...
Just wondering.
I bet you are a guy. Approx. 50% of the population is female, and at last time I checked, a lot of them do like the color pink.
LOL!!!! The 10 Gig model at 299.00 was still a better deal. 15 Gigs is even better!!!! Absolutley correct; if they had just dropped the price of the 10 GIG it would have been better received. 60 percent less capacity than the 10 gig and only 50 bucks cheaper. 75 percent less the 15 gig and only 50.00 cheaper. That's highway robbery; BRING BACK THE 10 GIG; they shaved off 6 gigs and priced it 50.00 cheaper. INCREDIBLE!
I'll be honest, I was expecting the price to be around $200 or so, but I really don't think that the extra $50 is anything to get too worked up over (especially considering educational pricing at $229). If the ipod mini is good for running and won't skip (as I've heard other ipod owners claim is an issue) then that's good enough for me and I'll buy one. I just got my first mac a month ago (12" G4 ibook) and immediately imported every CD I own. That came up to about 2,700 songs and a little over 10GB. I will probably never listen to 70% of what I have on my hard drive but they're there if I want them. So 30% of 2,700 is about 810 songs which will fit on an ipod mini. So basically I'll be able to carry around anything that I'd be remotely interested in listening to now (vs. what I liked 10 years ago). So, for me I don't have a problem with 4GB. Especially considering that my ipod mini and my ibook will chat at least every few days. If there is a song that I'm dying to listen to while running then I'll just add it to my ipod mini playlist. Now if the mini skips when i run... Guess I'd better buy applecare too. 
The iPod is Apple's most visible brand, possibly ever. Instead of giving the impression that, yes you can afford an Apple product, they instead price the new "mini" at an absurd price. Its just repeating the whole conception of Apple as a "expensive toy" instead of a workhorse. Instead of dropping the 10 gig iPod, they should have just dropped the price. They whould have gained further market share, while reducing the impression that Apple only makes expensive toys.
A lot of people are talking about the price of the mini being justified because it is going up against the high-end flash market. But if it is indeed hard drive-based, then in reality it is not competing at all; it exists only in an awkward purgatory. It will suffer all of the same problems that the iPod suffers in "active" listening conditions, such as running, working out, etc. There is a lot more forgiveness regarding shock, vibration, and movement from solid state media than there is from hard drives.
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When you're a kid, anything over $100 sounds too expensive.
I don't think Apple intends for children to be able to scrape together thier allowance money and buy these minis. They'll beg their parents and the parents will buy them.
When you're a kid, anything over $100 sounds too expensive.
I don't think Apple intends for children to be able to scrape together thier allowance money and buy these minis. They'll beg their parents and the parents will buy them.
I might get one just to be different, and for the belt clip..i think it's cool. But really this sucked a big fat one. My this is an apple plot to seel more 15G iPods, anyone think about that. For sure people are going to say "damn for only $50 more i can get a 15G."
Sneaky little devils arent they.
Sneaky little devils arent they.
What's the point!
wow so pointless! ok i agree, very nice but every says the same thing,, everyone will just end up with th 15gig..
if it had stayed at 10gig, maybe the gap would not have been so big..
but right now,, completely pointless in the market right now,, apple needs to release a 2 gig version at 149 with a cornice 2 gig..
wow so pointless! ok i agree, very nice but every says the same thing,, everyone will just end up with th 15gig..
if it had stayed at 10gig, maybe the gap would not have been so big..
but right now,, completely pointless in the market right now,, apple needs to release a 2 gig version at 149 with a cornice 2 gig..
if you go to the rio site, it says their player was featured in steve jobs macworld keynote. LOLOL!
http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=215&cat=54
http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=215&cat=54
No offence, but you people who think it's overpriced are extremely short-sighted.
The mini comes with a dock, a case, armband, remote control - all things the 15GB doesn't have. So, no, spending $50 more won't get you the same thing with 11 more GBs.
And some suggested to keep the 10GB model and mark it down $50. Have the cost price of 10GB 1.8" drives fallen $50 recently? The difference in price of 10GB and 15GB drives is far less than $50. Not only that, the price of storage is only a small part of the cost of an iPod.
The iPod mini has all the same guts as a bigger iPod. The difference is the storage which is only part of the cost. I don't see how Apple could charge $200 or less and still make money on them.
$249 is a fair price - as illustrated by Rio who are charging the same thing for a device not nearly as nice. But if you disagree, please point out the cost of the various components of the iPod to see where Apple is gouging us.
The mini comes with a dock, a case, armband, remote control - all things the 15GB doesn't have. So, no, spending $50 more won't get you the same thing with 11 more GBs.
And some suggested to keep the 10GB model and mark it down $50. Have the cost price of 10GB 1.8" drives fallen $50 recently? The difference in price of 10GB and 15GB drives is far less than $50. Not only that, the price of storage is only a small part of the cost of an iPod.
The iPod mini has all the same guts as a bigger iPod. The difference is the storage which is only part of the cost. I don't see how Apple could charge $200 or less and still make money on them.
$249 is a fair price - as illustrated by Rio who are charging the same thing for a device not nearly as nice. But if you disagree, please point out the cost of the various components of the iPod to see where Apple is gouging us.
So does this solve the running problem, because if that were the case, then that would be a major selling point. If not....well, it's already been said.
So, does anyone know exactly what's under the hood of the mini and whether or not it would skip, based on what's been seen in previous iPods?
Yea the price is a big deal i see...Yea..I think if they made it at 199, EVERYONE will buy one. I know all my Windows-user friends would. They love the iPod, but they just find it too expensive. At 199 for the mini, it'd be excellent!
But I think jobs would lower the price later...and increase the size by a GB maybe. So its 5, 15, and 20 and 30...I dont know...lets just be happy
But I think jobs would lower the price later...and increase the size by a GB maybe. So its 5, 15, and 20 and 30...I dont know...lets just be happy
i'm just annoyed about the fact that apple didn't announce anything that really set the world on fire... i was so psyched about this keynote, and turned out to be quite dull actually.
i really wanted to see something truly groundbreaking that would create a rise in Apple stock price. alas, none.
here's to a strong 2004
i really wanted to see something truly groundbreaking that would create a rise in Apple stock price. alas, none.
here's to a strong 2004
For the last time. No it doesnt. No dock. No armband. You do get a belt clip, a firewire and usb cable. That's it. Not even a case.
However, if they were smart, that's exactly what it WOULD contain. I can agree that $250 would be a great deal with those things included.
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Ummm ... the Rio unit appears to use the Cornice drives, and it sells for $250 as well ...
Ummm ... the Rio unit appears to use the Cornice drives, and it sells for $250 as well ...
I wonder if they update the normal ipods with voice recording abilities and such things you couldn't fit into the form factor of the new ipods thus creating a difference between the 2 product lines.