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Adobe Creative Suite 3 Unsupported on OS X Snow Leopard
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Are you deliberately not reading the posts where people say their CS3 is working with SL.
Did someone plant a mass hysteria script in the Macrumors forum this morning ?
Untwist the panties, girls.
That depends on what and how much you do with it.
I *LOVE* CS4. Photoshop CS3CS4 is a good (arguably not "major") upgrade, Illustrator's Blob Brush is great (although it could be improved upon), the new UI is a big improvement, and Flash CS4 is wonderful if you want to work with AI files, not draw everything in Flash.
For me, a bunch of modest improvements in every single program I use on a regular basis was absolutely worth the cost.
That's pretty insulting. You want to take a breath and take your foot out ?
So you're holding Adobe to a different standard than Apple ? I guess there are no Adobe cultists.
You can see into the future ? Way to go, Jackson. You da man.
1) If someone still uses a PPC Mac as their main machine, yes, they are cheap. I just bought my dad a closeout previous version C2D 2.0 Mac Mini for $400. So I stand by my statement, if you are holding on to a PPC for anything other than nostalgia you are cheap... probably proudly so.
2) I'm not sure how I'm holding Apple to a different standard than Adobe. Care to clarify? In fact I said I understand Adobe's position on CS3. Clearly you don't understand Apple's on SL though.
3) You don't need to be a soothsayer to see Apple's continued growth in the computer market with the under-the-hood improvements in SL. Not having to support two types of vastly different processors frees up a lot of coders and R&D. That is just obvious.
Well I understand Adobe's move. Someone else mentioned a good point. Adobe with CS3 was hit with the Intel switch and then with CS4 was told their 64 carbon would no longer be supported forcing them to give us a watered down version of the CS Suite. I work in an industry where we have around 1000 CS suite licenses and we upgrade at a moments notice. This is Adobe's core and most professional companies know this is part of owning professional grade software. You have to stay cutting edge both on hardware and software. Its the nature of the beast.
For my testing CS3 and CS4 have been marvelous under SL.
My question to those that neg'd this thread. Do you feel the same way when Apple forces PowerPC users to upgrade or they discontinue things because they feel its not important? Food for thought. Don't forget Adobe isn't home software.
Oh yeah I can't stand Adobe I am not sticking up for them, I more or less just understand.
For my testing CS3 and CS4 have been marvelous under SL.
My question to those that neg'd this thread. Do you feel the same way when Apple forces PowerPC users to upgrade or they discontinue things because they feel its not important? Food for thought. Don't forget Adobe isn't home software.
Oh yeah I can't stand Adobe I am not sticking up for them, I more or less just understand.
Keep digging.
With regards to backward capability. Sure I understand it. I've been selling Macs for four years. How about you ?
http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/08/24/mac-os-106-snow-leopard-hands-august-28/
Maybe, maybe not. It's not going to be OSX vs. Vista this time around. Apple is going from the "300 amazing new features" in Leopard to, uh, "SL is faster and more stable" Wow !
Success is never obvious or carved in stone. Have you used W7 ?
What about those who own Quad G5s maxed out with Gigs of RAM? To get an equivalent macpro with the same is not an inexpensive undertaking. You're only thinking of your situation not that of a lots of other people. This constant push from Apple to buy new, buy new is annoying. See QuickTimeX only doing hardware video acceleration on the 9600 cards and up for another great example.
John Nack seems to have updated his post from earlier today and contradicts the headline of this article:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2009/08/adobe_snow_leopard_faq.html
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2009/08/adobe_snow_leopard_faq.html
Yeah, so what' new? At least I don't have to go all the way back to "Classic" to use some apps and play my games....lol
I saw some hate directed towards Fireworks CS4. Someone please tell me why Fireworks is so bad. For creating buttons, icons, and graphical elements for web pages, Fireworks is great due to its mix of vector + bitmap. Someone please recommend something better (non-Adobe) and I'll gladly check it out.
EDIT: Ugh, just PM me if you have an answer.. I've got to unsubscribe to this thread, it's too spammy.
EDIT: Ugh, just PM me if you have an answer.. I've got to unsubscribe to this thread, it's too spammy.
CS 3 works
Been running CS3 on build 411. AE, PS, Flash Encoder, premiere pro all ran fine. Adobe be greedy!!!
Been running CS3 on build 411. AE, PS, Flash Encoder, premiere pro all ran fine. Adobe be greedy!!!
You really are cherry picking the headlines and not reading 90% of the post aren't you ?
Jeebus, calm down. CS3 is working with SL.
This is worse than if somebody had yelled fire in a theater when somebody farted.
Angry
This has me really angry. It's hard not to swear.
It comes down to this. I use Photoshop, a lot. I pay for it, and buy an upgrade every other version or so usually.
This week, I would very much like to install the mid-range (not earth-shaking) OS update from Apple. However, in order to do so and have Photoshop work, I need to pay Adobe $200 to upgrade?
I really feel that Adobe should support recent versions of their major software, on all but the most ground-breaking OS updates. With upgrades for single apps costing $200, it's especially ridiculous. The OS update is only $29!
This has me really angry. It's hard not to swear.
It comes down to this. I use Photoshop, a lot. I pay for it, and buy an upgrade every other version or so usually.
This week, I would very much like to install the mid-range (not earth-shaking) OS update from Apple. However, in order to do so and have Photoshop work, I need to pay Adobe $200 to upgrade?
I really feel that Adobe should support recent versions of their major software, on all but the most ground-breaking OS updates. With upgrades for single apps costing $200, it's especially ridiculous. The OS update is only $29!
Forget it man, I think people just go to the first page and send a reply without actually reading any of the other comments.
When Adobe stops supporting their software like this various annoying (and sometimes highly frustrating) bugs begin to crop up. It isn't hard to stumble across some which definitely impede your workflow. When I pay $2000 for Adobe Software I want them to offer at least some basic maintenance support for their programs. Instead we're lucky if they ever reach a point where the applications are relatively bug-free. They're released with bugs, they fix some of them, ignore many, and then they let them deteriorate.
I really wish Adobe would release a 'Snow Leopard' update to their suite, focusing on speed, stability, usability, and other refinements, instead of making it buggier, more bloated, and churning out a few decent features with loads of strange random crap.
I sure feel like a chump when I pay to upgrade, especially when one feature I get out of that is the pleasure of dealing with their registration security (which has caused me to reformat good machines a few times), while people pirating their rubbish get to enjoy it scott free no matter what Adobe does.
It seems really low to charge that much for software and fail to even keep up with at least the most troublesome of bugs... and history tells me that those bugs *will* be cropping up in CS3.
Adobe has a lock on my field, unfortunately, but their software has become buggy and mediocre--power hiding behind a flawed interface. And yet it's expensive, with complex bundles (combining old and new apps regardless of development cycle) that you have to play games with to guess the best path! And they have complex, burdensome installers and updaters. Meanwhile, upgrades are seldom revolutionary, despite the high prices.
As a result, it's very hard to justify buying every single upgrade. I buy every-other version instead, and am now using CS3 while waiting for CS5, hopefully with long-overdue 64-bit support.
Failing to support just one version old is not acceptable to me. It may stop me from upgrading to Snow Leopard on one of my machines, but it will NOT make me buy CS4 (which still doesn't fix everything wrong with CS3) nor like Adobe any more than before (And I used to be a big fan--back when Photoshop was the poster child for rock-solid software.)
I'll be looking for unsupported ways to use CS3 (I'm hopeful) and I'll be looking for alternative apps (I know GIMP is far from perfect, but it might make do for a time on one of my machines, with CS3 on the other).
In short, I don't think Adobe has any legal OBLIGATION to support the prior version. But not doing so is one more example of the mediocre Creative Suite experience. And that in turn makes me buy less from Adobe.
As a result, it's very hard to justify buying every single upgrade. I buy every-other version instead, and am now using CS3 while waiting for CS5, hopefully with long-overdue 64-bit support.
Failing to support just one version old is not acceptable to me. It may stop me from upgrading to Snow Leopard on one of my machines, but it will NOT make me buy CS4 (which still doesn't fix everything wrong with CS3) nor like Adobe any more than before
(And I used to be a big fan--back when Photoshop was the poster child for rock-solid software.)I'll be looking for unsupported ways to use CS3 (I'm hopeful) and I'll be looking for alternative apps (I know GIMP is far from perfect, but it might make do for a time on one of my machines, with CS3 on the other).
In short, I don't think Adobe has any legal OBLIGATION to support the prior version. But not doing so is one more example of the mediocre Creative Suite experience. And that in turn makes me buy less from Adobe.
Exactly. Although Creative Suite is targeted toward the creative industry, it's used a lot in smaller businesses (local print and signage shops, party planning, wedding invitations, etc) and for personal use. Let's face it. There's no real alternative to Photoshop. And InDesign and Illustrator have become the defacto standard in their fields also.
There have been some statistics that have shown Photoshop is one of the most pirated pieces of software out there. If Adobe offered Creative Suite for a reasonable price to end-users (say $99 for upgrade, $199 for full), these sort of forced upgrades wouldn't be that big of a deal.
That's true also. It seems like every new minor feature Adobe is adding with each new version is just fulfilling a different niche of the creative industry (Photoshop supporting video, 3D modeling, etc). I would bet most CS owners only use the mainstream features that have been around forever.
I know I wouldn't have upgraded from CS to CS 3 if it wasn't for the Intel switch. At $600 to upgrade from CS3 Design Premium to CS4 Design Premium, I think i'll wait this out.