You really like defining things your own way, don't you.
Ask the same 100 people if the two connectors look different when looking at them. If 100 of them don't answer yes, I assume you forgot to show them.
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Apple Hit with 'Planned Obsolescence' Lawsuit in Brazil over Fourth-Generation iPad
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Ask the same 100 people if the two connectors look different when looking at them. If 100 of them don't answer yes, I assume you forgot to show them.
Exactly. Problem One is, these articles are always short of critical information -- but that doesn't stop some people from assuming that they know everything anyone needs to know to form a strong opinion. Very few are willing to admit that they really don't really have enough information.
Just for fun I pulled out the box for my third gen iPad. Of course it wasn't called that, and the box isn't labeled as such. It doesn't even mention the Retina display, though this was after all the big change made in the third generation.
Nothing to be careful about. Just stating the truth. Anyone who owns an iPad 3rd Gen (which includes me) and thinks they were wronged because Apple released the 4th Gen 6 months later is an idiot. Pure and simple.
The 3rd Gen is still an amazing device that does everything that it did when I bought it. The release of the 4th Gen did absolutely nothing to change that.
If a passenger flies to X city last month and this month he flies back to the same city, it happens the last month plane seat has been upgraded to a better seat meaning a bit wider and will the flier ask for partial refund ?
This is a case of buyer beware, I will not let apple fool me for buying a product too early in the introduction state.
This is a case of buyer beware, I will not let apple fool me for buying a product too early in the introduction state.
This comment kind of clashes with your user name... Hopefully it was sarcasm...
What message? Unless you think Apple had the A6X and lightning connector ready to go in March?my first thought as well.
there's really no legal basis here IMO but the message is quite clear
I try be more proud about my country. But sometimes I cant, like this lawsuit!
I'm from São Paulo.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1481563/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1539604/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1348655/
http://www.mouseprint.org/2012/12/10/apple-ipad-version-changes-confuse-buyers/
I just googled iPad 3 and 4 boxes. I can see how there could be confusion. Does one say what cable comes with what - didn't see via picture. I assume it's there. BUT - if you don't know what cable is newer vs old - then how would you know that lightening is newer.
Again- I think the case is frivolous - but some of the banter on here on whether or not it's so easy to tell versions/etc and such doesn't gel. Given that Apple's "mantra" includes such saying as "it just works" etc - and how everyone and their mother has an iPhone or iPad and can use it right out of the box. It's not unreasonable to keep that line of thinking and state that the same people who don't want complex devices don't care about/know what cable is newer than the other.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1539604/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1348655/
http://www.mouseprint.org/2012/12/10/apple-ipad-version-changes-confuse-buyers/
I just googled iPad 3 and 4 boxes. I can see how there could be confusion. Does one say what cable comes with what - didn't see via picture. I assume it's there. BUT - if you don't know what cable is newer vs old - then how would you know that lightening is newer.
Again- I think the case is frivolous - but some of the banter on here on whether or not it's so easy to tell versions/etc and such doesn't gel. Given that Apple's "mantra" includes such saying as "it just works" etc - and how everyone and their mother has an iPhone or iPad and can use it right out of the box. It's not unreasonable to keep that line of thinking and state that the same people who don't want complex devices don't care about/know what cable is newer than the other.
What question? I am not dodging, if anything you are by turning this into a discussion about marketing terms instead of your original claim that these two iPads are physically identical. I guess...I don't know how people in Brazil buy things, but you don't think looking at them is part of the process?
And plugging them in is their only use for the connectors. So...you still don't think they'd understand they are not the same product?
Not sure about physical stores, but the online Apple Store lists older models by generation (e.g. "4th Generation").
I found a lot of jokes on this site concerning this topic.
Often times, if you go looking for something bad, you will find it. Whether it exists or not.
I skimmed as much as possible but I just wanted to mention that they do build Apple products in Brazil in case it has not been mentioned.
First world problems? It is not that hard to learn considering there have been news articles about it here on MacRumors. People outside your home country are people too.
First world problems? It is not that hard to learn considering there have been news articles about it here on MacRumors. People outside your home country are people too.
Yes, if the lawsuit is strictly about consumers feeling like they were "wronged" when sold an iPad because a new model came out later, then I'd agree it's ridiculous. However if the question is about Apple selling consumers a previous generation of product when the new one was also out, without their being fully informed, then it might actually be about something. I don't honestly know.
Unfortunately on the Brazil site -there's no mention of the 3... On the US either
http://store.apple.com/br/browse/home/shop_ipad/compare
I couldn't find a refurbished section on the Brazil site. But on the US site it's labeled as you suggest.
But you'd have to go to that section/know to go there.
But that doesn't really matter as I think this is more of an issue about physical stores. I could be wrong. We all could be
They are right, Apple is known for making things not as good as they could have the first time. Look at the phones, Apple tv, ipod, ipad ipad mini
Next press release from Apple: "Today we proudly introduce the iPad 5, our best iPad ever. It is available today world-wide, except in Brazil, where we must wait at least 12 months before introducing updated versions of products in order to avoid being sued for improving products too quickly."
What message? Unless you think Apple had the A6X and lightning connector ready to go in March?
you don't recall the MR uproar threads when the 4 was announced?