On retina macs there is a scaling option that will allow you to have more screen estate. It makes the ui elements proportionally smaller but they still appear crispier than on a non retina display of course.
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Apple Predicted to Release Ultra-Slim 12-Inch MacBook with Retina Display in Mid-2014
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On retina macs there is a scaling option that will allow you to have more screen estate. It makes the ui elements proportionally smaller but they still appear crispier than on a non retina display of course.
size and battery life
Personally, I would rather it stay the same size and use the added space for battery capacity. I work 13-15 hour days and having to carry around the adapter partially spoils the utility of the small form factor. Even if it is a 12 hour battery new, it is not long before it is 11...10...9....... hour battery.
Just my 0.02 worth. Thanks for letting vent. I feel better now.
Personally, I would rather it stay the same size and use the added space for battery capacity. I work 13-15 hour days and having to carry around the adapter partially spoils the utility of the small form factor. Even if it is a 12 hour battery new, it is not long before it is 11...10...9....... hour battery.
Just my 0.02 worth. Thanks for letting vent. I feel better now.
May sarcasm fu is not strong today but you are kidding, right?
Glass keys? Why? Would be cool I guess bit would add weight and expense.
For and finish to improve light leaking??? Uhhhh...that is not a fit and finish issue. That is the way it is designed.
Personally, I would rather it stay the same size and use the added space for battery capacity. I work 13-15 hour days and having to carry around the adapter partially spoils the utility of the small form factor. Even if it is a 12 hour battery new, it is not long before it is 11...10...9....... hour battery.
Just my 0.02 worth. Thanks for letting vent. I feel better now.
Agreed. The Air is thin enough. I'd go for the extra battery power, too.
I'd expect them to go to 10, 12, 15 and 17.
I woudl really like a 17" RMBP. But I think only myself and a few other video/engineer types are really eager to see that.
The people who are posting angry comments on here: i hope you all realize that these are just rumors and not solid words from Apple. So yeah. Calm down. Ha ha.
Of course. It's not like this site is called macrumors or anything.
Yeah, it's not the typical hipster machine for a quick mail check in Starbucks ....
This is why it didn't sell very well.Nevertheless, Apple should know that the hardcore pros used to prefer 17" to anything lesser because, among other things, the screen estate & resolution the 15" could not come close to. They're alienating them and not just some noname hipsters showing up with their shiny Airs.
Yeah, it's not the typical hipster machine for a quick mail check in Starbucks ....
Nevertheless, Apple should know that the hardcore pros used to prefer 17" to anything lesser because, among other things, the screen estate & resolution the 15" could not come close to. They're alienating them and not just some noname hipsters showing up with their shiny Airs.
Harsh critique. Airs are brilliant.
... just not sufficient for pro work - e.g., Xcode. Their screen estate is just insufficient... 1920*1200 to 1440*900 / 1366*768 ? Come on... and I haven't even mentioned the 17" is a dual-spin device (I have a 256 Vertex 4 + 1 TB 9mm HDD combo in mine.)
I know the Airs highly portable. Nevertheless, I prefer screen estate and power - and that's what current Airs just can't provide.
Okay, this will be the long awaited MacPad
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The inference that Airs can't do "Pro" work is such utter BS. Perfectly fine if you work at a desk with an external monitor. Almost no one I know in any creative field works without a desktop monitor. I've got a 15" retina and an 11" Air. If there's a monitor wherever I'm going, more often than not, I'll take the Air.
Well, I use the internal monitor most of the time. At places (for example, my summer cottage) I don't have external power at all and, therefore, need an internal screen. And 1920*1200 at 17" is already pretty high for proper coding in Xcode, making it unnecessary to switch to an external monitor at work.
Yes, that would indeed be crazy.
My expectation is that this new product will be a single Mac Book Air replacement at 12". That will leave Mac Book Pro Retinas at 13" and 15". I'm also expecting that they will do away with the non-retina MBPs in the next MBP update. The goal is to retinafy the entire product line.
iPad, iPhone, iPod touch and MBP are already retina. Next week, iPad mini and hopefully the 27" Thunderbolt display will be retina. That leaves the Mac Book Air and the iMacs. If this 12" rumor is true, then only the iMacs will remain. I expect that Apple will release retina versions of the iMac soon too, especially the 27" if the 27" Thunderbolt becomes reality.
At least that's what I would do if I were in charge at Apple.
Are Apple's loosing jts grip on what custumers want ?
In much the same way as samsung, Asus, other manufactures have cheap laptops, at 13-inch, but topping out at super to "over-the-top" resolutions.
While its good to see photo, and movies, but not much else, unless you have good eyeseight, isn't Apple doing the same with this 12-inch??
Is Apple basically going the way of Samsung, making any resultion screen, even if it doesn't make sense for that screen size, just to make more money.??
I always thought this is what actually seperated Apple from the others. "They know what people want, and makes sense to design displays and resultion to display"
On the Macbook Pro Retina, it makes sense at 2880 because its 15-inch, and a ipad 3rd and 4th generations, because their closer to your face.,
Has apple moving towards a "We'll make any screen size, any resolution"?
In much the same way as samsung, Asus, other manufactures have cheap laptops, at 13-inch, but topping out at super to "over-the-top" resolutions.
While its good to see photo, and movies, but not much else, unless you have good eyeseight, isn't Apple doing the same with this 12-inch??
Is Apple basically going the way of Samsung, making any resultion screen, even if it doesn't make sense for that screen size, just to make more money.??
I always thought this is what actually seperated Apple from the others. "They know what people want, and makes sense to design displays and resultion to display"
On the Macbook Pro Retina, it makes sense at 2880 because its 15-inch, and a ipad 3rd and 4th generations, because their closer to your face.,
Has apple moving towards a "We'll make any screen size, any resolution"?
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my Prediction
What I want to see is a 12" clamshell design but without a physical keyboard. Both sides of the clamshell will have displays. The top screen will snap on and off. With the top screen snapped off, the bottom becomes the full OS X tablet everyone has been looking for. With the screen snapped on, the bottom display is a keyboard and the top the main display. Oh, did I mention that the top display is also a full IOS device that syncs your documents and can be taken away as a thinner lighter 12" IOS tablet as well? Follows with the 12" iPad rumors.
Yup, that would be awesome. Tablet and computer in one package.
What I want to see is a 12" clamshell design but without a physical keyboard. Both sides of the clamshell will have displays. The top screen will snap on and off. With the top screen snapped off, the bottom becomes the full OS X tablet everyone has been looking for. With the screen snapped on, the bottom display is a keyboard and the top the main display. Oh, did I mention that the top display is also a full IOS device that syncs your documents and can be taken away as a thinner lighter 12" IOS tablet as well? Follows with the 12" iPad rumors.
Yup, that would be awesome. Tablet and computer in one package.
I wasn't saying if it was scary or not, just a distinct possibility because it's evident Apple are chasing the consumer market more.
The software-based scaling feature for Retina Macs is not 100% flawless. You can still see that it's not a native resolution so it becomes uncomfortable to work with in the long run.
^^ Falsehood perpetuated by people who have never used the Retina MBP for any length of time.
Scaled resolutions on the rMBP look better than the native res on the Air. It's not at all uncomfortable to use for extended periods unless your eyesight is poor.