Mail shows up as Version 7.0 (1822). I don't know what the build number was before I got the update.
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Apple Releases Mail Update for Mavericks to Address Gmail Issues
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Mail shows up as Version 7.0 (1822). I don't know what the build number was before I got the update.
It's hosted Exchange, i.e. Office 365, so it's directly through Microsoft. I hope they have it setup correctly
We do have the same accounts configured on our iOS devices and they work correctly there in Mail, so I know it's a Mail 6.0/7.0 bug(s).
We also moved from a Zimbra mail server hosted in house, which is like Exchange but also uses IMAP, and with the same size mailboxes Mail worked perfectly.
We do, and that's why we didn't get widespread issues. We are however Mac and iOS developers and we regularly buy new computers, such as the really nice crop of MacBook Pros. They can only run Mavericks.
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Your situation seems to mimic ours. It's nice to hear from someone else that is having the same problem and have reported it to Apple. I have too, under the entire Mavericks beta process, and all reports have been labled "Duplicates" and are still considered "Open".
I really don't know what to do with Apple at this point. Shall I keep sending in bug reports after every relevant update (such as this?) just to have them being adressed as dupes?
Hotmail and Outlook.com work with IMAP now. So now you can use it with Mac Mail. Works much better than gmail and Google's messed up proprietary implementation of the open IMAP standard.
Not trying to be rude here but why would you update a work computer with an unproven new operating system?
They did ... It's called Chrome
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I think your use of "normal" here is both pejorative and incorrect.
In an ideal world they would document their IMAP extensions and make the documentation available at https://developers.google.com/gmail/imap_extensions
hope it fixes the addressing
I really hope they have reverted the code that rejects strings of email addresses,
Mavericks Mail cannot use the special contacts created by our "MailShot" iOS app, which the old version of Mail used to.
Fingers crossed...
I really hope they have reverted the code that rejects strings of email addresses,
Mavericks Mail cannot use the special contacts created by our "MailShot" iOS app, which the old version of Mail used to.
Fingers crossed...
If one doesn't use Gmail, is there any reason to bother with this update? Since upgrading to Mavericks, I'm not sure completely trust it, i.e. I don't want to screw-up the Mail application.
You're talking to one of the most blind zealots around here...
Again... putting the horse before the cart.
So it worked fine pre-Mavericks, Google changed nothing, but it's Google's fault this regression popped up in Apple's new OS and Apple introduced a bug? Riiiigght... Hey I got an iTunes bugfix a few days ago, I suppose Google caused that too?
And there is no "poor" IMAP implementation. They are IMAP compliant, they just extend it. ANY email client which supports IMAP will work with GMail, it just might not support the extra features they have implemented via the extensions to IMAP.
There's really not much point in assigning blame to Google or Apple. Google has email that has an IMAP implementation with additional features that make it difficult for Mail, which is premised on a standard IMAP implementation, to work properly.
One can argue Google should use a "standard" IMAP implementation. Or one can argue that Apple should work with that implementation better.
but it really doesn't matter - the two don't mix well, and create headaches either way. So, regardless of blame, choose your poison - either put up with them, or drop gmail or Mail app.
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Indeed, although this is only fairly recent (last few months) - it was a huge negative for adopting outlook.com email for some time.
I never said I updated a work computer. I have lab computers on which I've been tracking Mavericks since its infancy, as I always do. This bug, and this bug only, is keeping med from upgrading my work computer and all other user computers at work. I also need to live with bugs so that I can figure out how to mitigate them, so I "live" in both my main computers and my lab computers.
A good portion of my users are Mac, web and/or iOS developers though and they both want and need Mavericks, and every new computer we will buy will have to run Mavericks. The bug is there for these users.
I am supporting freelance workers and consultants too, and I can't force them not to install Mavericks so they will be exposed to this bug when they bring their own Mac to our workplace.
I had the G-Mail "All Mail" issue when using Mavericks (first GM). Turned on All Mail to get things working. Tried to install patch, had the issue with it not showing up in software update (due to 1st version GM) and would not manually install either.
I've got it all working now so in case this might help anyone, here goes:
1. Downloaded Mavericks from App Store. It's a 5GB plus file, so it takes a while. It will give a message saying computer already has 10.9, but it will let you continue and download.
2. Run the update just like if you were installing over Mountain Lion, just go through the install process. It may take something like 40 minute to do this.
3. When completed and re-booted, the Mavericks installer is automatically deleted (which is good, as it takes 5+ gig of space). All of my settings, data, etc. remained intact.
4. Check your build number, go to the Apple Menu on the top menu bar, click "About This Mac" and then click on the gray "Version 10.9" directly under OS X. It will change to build number which should now be 13A603
5. Run software update (Apple menu, Software update, you should get mail update 1.0). Install it.
6. At this point I went to G-Mail on the web and removed (unchecked) All Mail from IMAP in the web settings (put it back to the way it was when I was on Mountain Lion).
7. Ran the Mail app and it seems to be working perfectly for me with All Mail turned off again.
No, Google is a business. Google is not your friend, Apple is not your friend, Microsoft is not your friend, Canonical is not your friend, Exxon Mobile is not your friend, McDonalds is not your friend. I could go on.
AirMail is pretty good, but I'm not finding any problems with Mac Mail.
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No, it's a bad thing. We should all refuse to work with Google until they start working well with others. They're just getting the message that they can do whatever they want and we'll bend over backwards for them.
My issues include not having new mail show up and having to log into iCloud every time you restart the app. Yes, I'm still having the same issues as before.
