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robotfist

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Nov 7, 2007
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Notes?

Just curious, does anyone know if your "Notes" still sync after the transition from MobileMe to iCloud? I know I will be losing my iDisk, which sucks, but I have a lot of stuff stored on my notes and I really love the fact that my computer and iphone sync my notes wirelessly through MobileMe.
 

aarond12

macrumors 65816
May 20, 2002
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It feels like I'm forced to upgrade with a gun pointed at my head…
Given that my first-gen MacBook Pro won't run Lion (due to the MacBook Pro's Core Duo 32-bit processor), I have not just a gun but TWO guns pointed at my head. This whole mess makes me sick. :mad:
 

Gosh

macrumors 6502
Aug 14, 2006
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Apple's Garage Sale of loyal Mac users.

Poor loyal fools scattered to the four winds (Google, Mircosoft, Firefox and Flickr).

They switched to Tiger and adopted .Mac,
Futurists and all.
Advocates of all things Mac
Fan-boys if truth be told.
But then came iOS and Mac became OS X.
The end was nigh, and the threats began,
"Exile or upgrade hardware", and still lose more than gain.
Snow Leopard, a crime,
But Vista accepted.
And loyal Mac users, query being fisted.

OK, it didn't quite rhyme but you get the despair, especially as Vista users are preferred over Snow Leopard users.
 
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nuckinfutz

macrumors 603
Jul 3, 2002
5,539
406
Middle Earth
Apps that I own that have used iCloud without too much hassle.


Downcast
Due Reminders
Day One
W.E.L.D.E.R
iA Writer

The other apps I haven't really tested. I'm using iCloud for application sync for more than I used Mobile Me.

I'm guessing that WWDC will usher in better documentation, more mature frameworks and sharing options.

I'm not saying that giving up iDisk or Dropbox folder structure needs to go away but I think it's a choice on whether you are better suited manually managing documents or letting the computer handle it.
 

davidec

macrumors 6502
Jan 31, 2008
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As it has been explained to me only your mail will work on any device not running Lion. Lack of sync support in iCloud for at LEAST address book contacts and iCal calender in Snow Leopard is frankly inexcusable.

+1

I'm really hoping that something will be announced for us SL users at the WWDC. Otherwise I am not looking forward to all the tinkering that you need to do to get contacts and calendars to sync in SL.
 

edoates

macrumors 6502
May 22, 2006
299
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Still depressing that they won't support Snow Leopard. Some people can't upgrade to Lion either do to hardware limitations or for software compatibility.

Apple supports legacy versions of Windows (Vista) which is older than their own Snow Leopard.

Not only that, but if you have a PPC as I do (G5 Quad) that still works well enough, I can't upgrade even to 10.6 AND any currently offered Mac is on the verge of being upgraded (iMac) or upgraded / dumped (MacPro), so buying either of those NOW is just plain stupid for us.

Plus if I upgrade to a new MacPro (old or new), I need to get a new Final Cut: and I have to get FCP X, since FCS 7 can no longer be purchased from Apple. CR*P.

And with iCloud iWeb and iDisk going away, I must go to yet another vendor to get file based cloud storage (Dropbox, I guess) and a web host (networksolutions? one of those to which I can FTP my iWeb stuff).

Oh, well, stuff changes and it's my opportunity to look at a Win 7 machine (will run iCloud stuff) and a new video editing suite. My ProTools MacPro will remain untouched.
 

eleven59

macrumors regular
Jul 21, 2008
163
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If they're getting rid of me.com..

Then why is it the only two fields I can't sync to iCloud are mail and notes bc they require a me.com account? Which I have but could never combine, add or merge into my apple ID...
 

Anaemik

macrumors 6502
Feb 25, 2009
289
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Apple is also reminding users that those whose systems don't meet the minimum requirements for the full iCloud service can still migrate their email and calendars to iCloud.

Where's your evidence for the bit in bold? I've seen this mentioned before, but Apple says absolutely nothing about calendar support as far as I can tell.
 

thefourthpope

Contributor
Sep 8, 2007
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DelMarVa
Syncing for the rest of us.

As much as I like Dropbox i'm kind of a low friction guy. I didn't spend $1500 on my computer so that "I" have to manage stuff. That's the computers job. iCloud allows me to forget about file structure and just create documents and data...the things I do better or at least more creatively than a computer.

I'd be all for that description if the types of files I could creatively create weren't severely limited. The strength of iDisk--like DBox--was being able to work with any file type.
Dropbox works much smoother than iDisk ever did. I don't see the friction at all, since everything is in the background.
 

nuckinfutz

macrumors 603
Jul 3, 2002
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Middle Earth
I'd be all for that description if the types of files I could creatively create weren't severely limited. The strength of iDisk--like DBox--was being able to work with any file type.
Dropbox works much smoother than iDisk ever did. I don't see the friction at all, since everything is in the background.

So long as you've placed files in a folder which means that it has to be a data file.

iCloud syncs data files and it syncs key value info. So even the smallest portion of data that you'd never save as a file can be easily sync'd across devices.

This makes iCloud's "reach" much greater because a developer can use both document based and key value based data with iCloud at the same time.
 

vohdoun

macrumors 65816
Jan 23, 2006
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Far away from Earth.
Not only that, but if you have a PPC as I do (G5 Quad) that still works well enough, I can't upgrade even to 10.6 AND any currently offered Mac is on the verge of being upgraded (iMac) or upgraded / dumped (MacPro), so buying either of those NOW is just plain stupid for us.

Plus if I upgrade to a new MacPro (old or new), I need to get a new Final Cut: and I have to get FCP X, since FCS 7 can no longer be purchased from Apple. CR*P.

And with iCloud iWeb and iDisk going away, I must go to yet another vendor to get file based cloud storage (Dropbox, I guess) and a web host (networksolutions? one of those to which I can FTP my iWeb stuff).

Oh, well, stuff changes and it's my opportunity to look at a Win 7 machine (will run iCloud stuff) and a new video editing suite. My ProTools MacPro will remain untouched.

So much for the Apple slogan. It just works.
 

heisetax

macrumors 6502a
Jun 12, 2004
944
0
Omaha, NE
What does iCloud rule?

In my words & on my computer, NOTHING. Or we could restate that as, NOT A THING.

I haven't given up my MobileMe account yet. At an Apple training session it seems that the only things that it will keep in sync i Apple apps, none of which I use for any business use. So no syncing needed or usable here.

We need an iCloud replacement. I'm ready to change. Oh, I forgo I never did change to iCloud.

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Thank goodness iCloud is free.

They always say that you get what you pay for. So I'm not expecting anything.

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I'm so bummed out about this. I would have preferred to stay on 10.6, which I like much better than 10.7. But I can't live without iCloud/MobileMe syncing between my Macs and iOS devices. It feels like I'm forced to upgrade with a gun pointed at my head…

And to make things even worse, Windows Vista users can use iCloud, but not 10.6 users. Wow!

That's why I am using Mac OS 10.7. It is not because I like it but because I have a better Windows partition under either Parallels Desktop for Mac or Fusion. I made a spreadsheet of gains & losses with 10.7. To this day there are only 2 or 3 goods things with 10-20 or more bad things, usually a loss of a useful feature. So don't ask me why I am running it other than the Windows thing.

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Still depressing that they won't support Snow Leopard. Some people can't upgrade to Lion either do to hardware limitations or for software compatibility.

Apple supports legacy versions of Windows (Vista) which is older than their own Snow Leopard.

But Apple is that way. They always have & they always will be.
 

heisetax

macrumors 6502a
Jun 12, 2004
944
0
Omaha, NE
I feel your pain. I was in this situation for a long time because I did not want to update my home machine to Lion, although my work machine came with Lion preinstalled. I had MobileMe working on both and on my iPhone with no real issues. Well I finally gave in and installed Lion at home so that I could change to iCloud, and now nothing works right. After much fiddling and experimentation I finally disabled everything in iCloud except for Find my iPhone, and use Google for mostly everything else. Now I have learned my lesson from all of the Apple foul-ups over the years.

It sounds like the problems with MobilMe were really monor compared to those of iCloud. I never had any problems with any of the MobileMe versions or updates. I'm still afraid to make the change. For the last year or two I have stopped using the term upgrade when it comes to Apple. I use either change or update with update just meaning a newer version.
 

heisetax

macrumors 6502a
Jun 12, 2004
944
0
Omaha, NE
Poor loyal fools scattered to the four winds (Google, Mircosoft, Firefox and Flickr).

They switched to Tiger and adopted .Mac,
Futurists and all.
Advocates of all things Mac
Fan-boys if truth be told.
But then came iOS and Mac became OS X.
The end was nigh, and the threats began,
"Exile or upgrade hardware", and still lose more than gain.
Snow Leopard, a crime,
But Vista accepted.
And loyal Mac users, query being fisted.

OK, it didn't quite rhyme but you get the despair, especially as Vista users are preferred over Snow Leopard users.

But how does this affect me as a Leopard, Snow Leopard, Windows XP User? I'm left out altogether. Most of the time I believe that that is a good point & not a bad point.

I will be changing my mac.com email address by the end of the next 4 weeks. I've had that address for so long that I do not want to give it up. This is even though I have my own web site & use those email addresses for all new business. I've been changing more over to one of my gmail accounts & away from my mac.com email address as Apple is showing its age old reliability problem.

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+1

I'm really hoping that something will be announced for us SL users at the WWDC. Otherwise I am not looking forward to all the tinkering that you need to do to get contacts and calendars to sync in SL.

You could change to Vista. Oh I forgot you said that you are a Mac User.

The worst part of this is that Snow leopard is better than both Vista & Lion.

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Not only that, but if you have a PPC as I do (G5 Quad) that still works well enough, I can't upgrade even to 10.6 AND any currently offered Mac is on the verge of being upgraded (iMac) or upgraded / dumped (MacPro), so buying either of those NOW is just plain stupid for us.

Plus if I upgrade to a new MacPro (old or new), I need to get a new Final Cut: and I have to get FCP X, since FCS 7 can no longer be purchased from Apple. CR*P.

And with iCloud iWeb and iDisk going away, I must go to yet another vendor to get file based cloud storage (Dropbox, I guess) and a web host (networksolutions? one of those to which I can FTP my iWeb stuff).

Oh, well, stuff changes and it's my opportunity to look at a Win 7 machine (will run iCloud stuff) and a new video editing suite. My ProTools MacPro will remain untouched.

Apple seems to want to have all of their old loyal customers to be a switcher, a switcher to Windows. Going the Win 7 route is cheaper by far. Even cheaper than an iToy.

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So much for the Apple slogan. It just works.

I thought that you were talking about CP/M or maybe Linux. When Apple took computer out of its name they took out, "It just works" also.
 

faroZ06

macrumors 68040
Apr 3, 2009
3,387
1
MobileMe was a disaster, and it had a horrible name.

Apple, just make a paid iCloud account option that lets you do everything you could do in MobileMe!
 

SEGeologist

macrumors member
Apr 16, 2012
34
0
Pangea
Apple seems to want to have all of their old loyal customers to be a switcher, a switcher to Windows. Going the Win 7 route is cheaper by far. Even cheaper than an iToy.

I have to completely agree with you here. I have already replaced several desktops for less than an iMac. Very few of our system computers will be "apple" from the latest purchases. By far a winBox is 1/4 - 1/8th the cost.
 

shinobi-81

macrumors 6502
Apr 11, 2012
341
1
I'm not sure if I bother to move the iDisk contents anywhere. I only kept porn there anyway.
 

VictorNT

macrumors member
Jul 18, 2007
36
0
New York City
Poor loyal fools scattered to the four winds (Google, Mircosoft, Firefox and Flickr).

They switched to Tiger and adopted .Mac,
Futurists and all.
Advocates of all things Mac
Fan-boys if truth be told.
But then came iOS and Mac became OS X.
The end was nigh, and the threats began,
"Exile or upgrade hardware", and still lose more than gain.
Snow Leopard, a crime,
But Vista accepted.
And loyal Mac users, query being fisted.

OK, it didn't quite rhyme but you get the despair, especially as Vista users are preferred over Snow Leopard users.

+1
I have a wonderful Quad G5 PPC and now I'm F...,:mad::mad::mad::mad:
It s totally BS ! Why a cloud service is dependent of the OS ????
 

nuckinfutz

macrumors 603
Jul 3, 2002
5,539
406
Middle Earth
+1
I have a wonderful Quad G5 PPC and now I'm F...,:mad::mad::mad::mad:
It s totally BS ! Why a cloud service is dependent of the OS ????

Because unlike MobileMe ....iCloud is built right into the very frameworks developers use to write apps. This means that it's got to be able to deal with individual files, Packages, sqlite database data and more. It's has to know how to deal with documents as well as non-document data (settings, levels, small pieces of data)

iCloud is light years.....light years...did I say "light years" beyond MobileMe which is why it's gonna eventually take two OS revisions to get most of it right.
 

SeaFox

macrumors 68030
Jul 22, 2003
2,620
954
Somewhere Else
I don't see why they couldn't keep idisk and gallery as part of icloud. :mad:
Because those are features that are easy to use regardless of whether you're on a Mac or not. You don't need an iOS device to view your photo galleries like you do Photo Stream, and literally anyone can access the files on you iDisk if you let them verses being synched to your iCloud. Apple doesn't like these features since they don't force you to buy one of their products to use it.

Do you not understand what a Walled Garden is?

And to those who think I'm trolling, I'd like to ask, when Apple introduced iWeb, why did they get rid of Homepage? Why'd iCards get taken away? Even though Apple had introduced Mac/iOS apps that had those functions they didn't have to remove the old services, or change the URL for websites from one product (Homepage) vs iWeb published sites. The answer is because the old products could be used from any computer on the Internet (like how websites are supposed to be). You could create/edit Homepage sites from Internet Explorer on a Windows PC. But by shifting to iWeb you suddenly had to use a Mac and purchase iLife.
 

iZac

macrumors 68030
Apr 28, 2003
2,610
2,847
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