Hmmm... if I throw Windows 10 on my Mac mini and install Plex to stream to the XBox, I could get rid of my AppleTV altogether...
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Apple TV Games Must Work With Apple TV Remote, May Not Require External Controller
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Based on what? Ouya? Fire TV? Those TV set top boxes are a failure for gaming because the games are failures for gaming.
Games sell game systems.
This should be fun to play on my 65" TV.
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If in three years there are only hundreds of games available it will be classed as a failure. It needs 2,000 titles atleast in three years to be considered a success.
I think you are not looking at the big picture (eg: from a game developer POV): as a user you don't need to use the remote, but as a developer you are required to make your game fully playable with that thing...which means that most of traditional games won't be on Apple tv, because their control scheme is to complex to scale down to the remote and developer can't just use external controllers! Sure, there will be games that will be GOOD with the remote...it's just that those games are the freemium, short and casual ones. But these kind of games already dominate the iOS e ecosystem and personally I was hoping for something a bit deeper than my iPhone. Not less. Well, eventually they will realise how dumb this is and will change the requirement. But this is one of things that worries me about today Apple. they used to nail products...now they look to me a little out of touch...a bit "let's try this, let's try that, eventually we'll make it work"
Nintendo light gun begs to differ. So do all the Rockband "instruments", racing steering wheels and seats.
This is not a gaming console, its just for light weight games. People also said that games would never be good on a smart phone with touch screen control, yet there are a ton of good games.
They could get around this by not letting games be downloaded if the apple tv doesn't detect an 3rd party controller. But Apple would never let that happen because for Apple, "everything just works". Apps that don't work without an 3rd party controller would make people upset, but apps that support an 3rd party controller will make people happy.
They could get around this by not letting games be downloaded if the apple tv doesn't detect an 3rd party controller. But Apple would never let that happen because for Apple, "everything just works". Apps that don't work without an 3rd party controller would make people upset, but apps that support an 3rd party controller will make people happy.
I have no problem with this. This is no different than any other game console. You build the game to work with the controller that comes with the console. The fact that developers can work in compatibility with other controllers is good. But building games that cannot use the default Apple controller, or must require a different controller? Not a good idea in my book.
Wii Mote (landscape) ergonomics 2.0.
But this puts a beautiful label on what I - personally - consider a terrible choice for gaming anyways.
Remote requirement yes or no.
Glassed Silver:mac
But this puts a beautiful label on what I - personally - consider a terrible choice for gaming anyways.
Remote requirement yes or no.
Glassed Silver:mac
And the unwashed masses speak. As an ATV user since the 1 and a frontrow user before then, I can say that the remote is just fine for what it does.
You could probably use the touchpad to represent the six buttons on the new controller (just tried this out with an iPhone in one hand) but I'm not sure how you'd handle strumming. Best I could manage was stabilising the body of the remote/iPhone with my other hand, then shaking up and down to represent finger strums over the strings. Not very precise.
People forgot about the Wii. It may not have the best controls for most games, but they still tried to use them as best as possible with the quite pathetic Wii remote.
Don't be silly.
A developer would have to be pretty dense to spend money to develop or port a title to Apple TV and not make it work well with the only control they can be sure all of their customers have.
If this is a "hassle" for any developer, it would be a matter of Apple saving them from themselves.
The only real downside is a "showcase" title that is paired with a controller, like Wii Fit with its balance board. But it looks like that kind of thing is still possible.. they just can't make the controller required.
Uh... that's a good thing, right?
Hm, so this policy might discourage developers who don't want to spend effort making their game work well on the Apple TV? This still sounds like a good thing.
Uh, yeah, I think that is what we want. No one needs half-assed ports of games designed for other consoles on Apple TV.
Boy, when Touch Arcade breaks it down like this, it sure seems like a good policy.
I think the point you just made is lost on a quite a few folks who are responding.
nonono...it will be high res, full of colors and with metal support...apart from that...yeah, good ol'snake!
edit: oh...and in-app purchases!
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No one said it has to be good with the remote, you just need to be able to use it. Games could have a screen that says third party controller recommended.
Seems like an ill-conceived policy. It's not like the Apple Remote is a Wiimote, which is specifically made for gaming. Nor is a TV like an iPhone or iPad, where in the absence of a controller you can use a touch interface on screen.
The ideal set up would be for iPads/iPhones/iPods to act as controllers that link via Bluetooth with the Apple TV.
The ideal set up would be for iPads/iPhones/iPods to act as controllers that link via Bluetooth with the Apple TV.
Seriously? It sounds like you should go elsewhere for your phones, computers, etc. Most companies certainly won't be as "restrictive". Have a good time with HP, Samsung, and all the rest.
Seriously? There are tons of good games out there. As a PC-gamer I was very sceptic about touchscreen controls, but there a lots of great games (adventures, strategy games, tower defence and really creative games) in the app store, especially for the iPad.
This will weed out the developers who can't figure out how to make games that are compatible with the Apple TV remote.