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Apple Warns Proposed UK Law Could 'Secretly Veto' Global User Protections
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I understand why'd you want to separate the two things. But the EU is blantant overreach. You just like it, so you're excusing it.
I’d say a bunch of people - that form the immaterial entity called government, corporation etc etc - that love to spy on other people. It’s people against people no matter how abstract it is.
You are right on much of what you write and I agree with you.
That said, I think the EU suffers from many of the same issues because the fundamental nature of politics is that people tend to vote based on emotion and singular issues, which promotes less intelligent and qualified candidates who end up being the decision makers.
Humans love to control other humans. While the common folk bicker and point fingers at others saying mean things, the elites play god. Got to love how the world works.
Anyone who believes that the EU, in fact any of the Five Eyes, is somehow detached from these UK plans needs to research Chat Control to get a free taster of the EU's particular flavour of dystopia. All of these horror surveillance plans are interconnected and full-Orwell.
https://reclaimthenet.org/privacy-companies-push-back-against-eu-plot-to-end-online-privacy
https://reclaimthenet.org/privacy-companies-push-back-against-eu-plot-to-end-online-privacy
You’ve cracked the code! If only we have total surveillance and control of all citizens, that will stop all crime forever! Why hasn’t anyone tried this before?!
Seriously though. It’s not like this technology will just go away. The government will not give up secure encryption for themselves. There are millions of people in the world educated enough about it to create it from scratch. Totalitarian governments just create different kinds of terrorists.
It’s interesting you mention the IRA specifically. What was their original beef, again? Overreach and abuse of power by the UK government? Nothing justifies terrorism, but surely you see the irony in that.
The dirty open secret nobody likes to talk about is that these countries tacitly support each others’ surveillance laws because they can legally “spy” on each others’ citizens but not their own. Talk about a loophole.
Moreover, given that there's an undercurrent in the west right now of marking anyone who disagrees with government as a 'terrorist' it's only a matter of time before everyone commenting in this thread is up for the chop. Worse, you won't even need to be a prior suspect because the system will actively identify persons of interest.
We live in a time where absolutely everything is up for subversion. "Control" is meaningless if you don't know what you are doing in a big way. In fact what we are seeing is the agony of the "elite".
I live near the border, and nope, Britain has a bigger and better cheese selection available. I do like Swiss and German cheese, though, even the stuff from the Alps that smells like feet.
And that folks is the sound of ‘1984’ getting just a little closer ☹️
If I did live in the EU I probably still wouldn't use alternate app portals; why leave the security and safety of the app store? What I wanted was full .ipa sideloading so I can get hold of emulators direct from source and older apps that have since been removed from my purchased library (eg AG Drive) or for some daft reason are not available in my region (eg Puzzle and Dragons) but we didn't get that.
All the EU did was look at Android, Windows, MacOS, Linux, AmigaOS, DOS, ChromeOS, WearOS, Symbian and Sailfish then looked at iOS and gone 'huh?'
Apple may have to turn the UK into the next Russia, pulling out completely. No sales, no App Store, no nothing. Other companies may follow. If that doesn’t light a fire under their bums to change course, nothing will.
Here's an idea: Apple should use AI to generate garbage data on device that looks plausible enough, then allow access only to that portion of the device memory to government backdoors. If you poison the mine, they'll just be wasting time gathering meaningless data on all of us. Try it in the UK first, then if it works roll it out everywhere (especially China!).
I guess we will just have to disagree. I suppose Wisconsin would want a word as well...
UK always thinks it is exceptional...but never recognizes that we are really very (very) poor at executing any significant decision.
Whether that be to build HS2 (Train line), Horizon (Post Office IT), Aircraft Carriers, new Nuclear reactors or to leave the EU (Brexit) etc etc. All have gone badly wrong.
UK is broken right now. FWIW: it won't always be, but at this moment in history, we are absolutely on our knees.
Whether that be to build HS2 (Train line), Horizon (Post Office IT), Aircraft Carriers, new Nuclear reactors or to leave the EU (Brexit) etc etc. All have gone badly wrong.
UK is broken right now. FWIW: it won't always be, but at this moment in history, we are absolutely on our knees.
how would the EU rules break that? The EU rules dont strip the ability to lock down a device using controls...
Do you mean, Apple can provide selective updates to UK at Apple’s sole discretion, without anyone compelling them to do so (or not)?
It sounds like that is already here since Apple would have to remove security/privacy features and backdoor their phones for government access which would kill Apple's entire selling point for their products.
Look at how the UK was arresting protesters, for the crime of peacefully protesting against the monarchy during the funeral of Queen Elizabeth II. UK has lost their minds trying to replicate Russia's tactics in dealing with peaceful protesters.
Will they? Apple it is today would have a much harder time finding alternative market to make up for lost revenue, unless UK government expel them for non-compliance.
Every single government wants to.
Don’t say “never happen” too soon. And big tech giants are capable of managing what government is managing today?