You gotta figure - AT&T is NOT looking to collect less money or introduce this price plan just to go after those 2%. They haven't revealed yet why they are doing this. I don't think it's because they figure they'll get overage charges by tethering (although they will already be collecting $20/mo) because I just don't see too many people tethering to make up that $5/mo they're losing from every customer who switches.
There's something else that's coming that they're not saying. My guess is the video chat on the next iPhone is gonna suck some bandwidth, but I don't see that becoming so popular that it makes up the difference in overage charges...
Any other guesses?
Getting the 2% off the network or actually paying for the bandwidth used, frees AT&T up from having to spend money on additional hardware. It is a huge cost savings for AT&T. They would rather those over users leave their network if they are not going to pay their share, because one of them can be replaced by 10+ $15 a month customers. $15x10=$150 a month, which is much more than $30 a month. See how it is easy for AT&T to work this out?
The reality is the multiple is greater than 10. It is probably closer to 25 or 30. So with the same network infrastructure, for every 2% they get rid of and replace, their revenue goes up 1500% for data and costs stay the same.
When the new
Netflix app is announced, a lot of you will be readjusting your data usage estimates.
I suspect most people of normal and regular data usage have access to wifi and do a lot of stuff on wifi, so such things will likely not have as much impact on the average user as you might think.
This is not a good answer. The correct answer is, on the iPhone, if you choose to do something, anything, you are using data.
A forcibly data capped iPhone makes no sense and AT&T just ruined the iPhone, IMO. I don't care what the usage statistics say.
The ruined it by making it cheaper to own for 98% of their customers?
How is that ruined?
How about a reasonable, not so soul-crushingly low, data cap + tethering? Say 5gb? For those of us who like to stream content, 2gb is just too low. I'm specifically thinking of Internet radio, but there's also Netflix, Apple's own upcoming "cloud" iTunes service, and who knows what else in the near future.
If you want 5 gigs and tethering it is $75 a month. It costs money, you can pay for it. As opposed to asking me to pay for it. Why should they charge $5 a month more to me and 20 other people here so you can have cheaper data?
I will of course, I mean for new subscribers. Limited (VERY limited) plans don't encourage usage...just the opposite. Everyone will be right back in 1995, where you were afraid to use your damn phone for fear of AT&T charging you out the rear with overage charges.
Overage charges are pretty clear spelled out and nothing like the olden days of metered usage. You go over on the $15 plan you can RETROACTIVELY upgrade to the $25 plan. You go over on the $25 plan it is $10 for 1 more gig of data. Seeing as how you are paying $12.50 for the each of the first two gigs of data, paying $10 for the next one should not be a big problem.
Right, I get that, but the kinds of figures I'd heard discussed prior to this were on the order of 5gb, and the concern was to prevent known types of really heavy usage, like peer-to-peer services. I could also see AT&T wanting to limit tethering via jailbreak. But I don't get adopting a cap that's going to cut into legitimate products, approved by Apple, that stream data.
For example, I'm currently at 2.1 gigs with 3 days to go on my month, and it's because of Sirius/XM. I use it approximately 20 hours a week (that's 4 hours a day for 5 days, at work). That does not strike me as excessive usage, yet my choices are: (1) grandfather, but don't use tethering (which is actually OK with me personally, but probably won't be for a significant number of others); (2) pay quite a bit more for data than I am now; or (3) curtail the use of a service that I pay for anyway and enjoy greatly.
I would think AT&T could make a data cap that's high enough for the people using a reasonable amount of streaming services and still protect their network, rather than do it the way they did it, which apparently was to look at the figures and decide that 2% of unsatisfied customers was a reasonable cost to pay to reduce further costs of building out more network.
Doesn't matter where the line was drawn, someone would be a victim of it. In this case it happens to be you. Moving the line wouldn't change that reality it would just make someone else who was right on the new line with their usage the victim.
I hope the 200mb plan is enough for the rumored iChat feature on the 4th gen iPhone.. I'm already grandfathered with the current unlimited plan but I would love to have my parents on the cheaper plan so we could video chat. They currently have 2g iPhones with no data plan because 30 bucks additional for each phone is ridiculous if they don't ever plan on using much of the Internet besides email.
Do your parents have wifi? Seems like something they might do from home anyways.. So not really an issue? Maybe they travel a lot I don't know.
Although I am a current iPhone user...yes, I know this topic is alllllll about new customers...
1)I would never sign up for a capped data plan...for anything...phone, ISP, computer, whatever. It's 2010...get with the program, ATT.
2)Even if I were fed drugs and did sign up for a capped plan, 2GB is the cap?!...especially when the "old days" were $5 more expensive and were UNLIMITED?! That's a pretty low cap for us internet surfers that visit websites with lots of photos and check/read their email that typically have a few megs of attachments PER DAY. And what about all that wonderful hype (Apple with their advertising) about watching YouTube?...that's right out the window.
3)I just checked my usage...out of 22 days I've used 44MB. Now, I use my iPhone 99% of the time at home...and I can tell you that over the past 22 days this phone was only used 1 time outside my home (which gives me WIFI) for data usage. Therefore, if I were to multiply 30 days by 44MB, I would be at 1320MB or 1.32GB per month. And that's low usage (if you ask me)...how do I know?... I can tell you that 44MB per day is very low for me (again, Youtube, email attachments, websites, GPS, my apps hitting the web) because that 1 day I used it was simply on a road trip...all highway usage. When I got to my locations I was on WIFI. That highway usage was maybe 4 hours worth of data usage/surfing.
4)There is no way (currently) for Apple or ATT to offer a breakdown of the data usage...such as web surfing vs. apps vs. iTunes vs. GPS, vs. YouTube etc. And it's my fault that websites these days are megabytes large in their bloated design?
5)Let me guess...there's no automatic text messages from ATT or Apple that I am approaching my cap. That's probably an additional $1.99 "service" on my ATT contract.
Overall, this new policy stinks. I haven't seen any charts, but I think I'm a pretty light ATT data usage person...and already close to the monthly cap that they want to force upon new users.
-Eric
This is crazy logic. So you used your phone 1 day outside wifi this month and extrapolated that if you did that for 30 days in a row it would be 1.2 gigs.
So even if you did something extraordinarily odd for you (spend 30 days on 3g only when you only did it one day in the last month), you would still be well under the cap and be paying less, you are ranting and raving about these changes.
That is your logic?