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This magazine publishes pretty technical tests. In the US, it's available for subscription at amazon.com
 

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I'm sad to read that the D40 is going to replace the D50. I was hoping the D50 would get upgraded, not downgraded, in features for the same price.

Dang. I may have to buy another D80 if there's going to be no model in the lineup between the D40 and it.
 

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D50 basically at one online store here. So tempted...
 

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Yeah, I already passed on the last iSights, and I'm still waiting for the new release!
 

drlunanerd

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You can't get D50s anymore? If they weren't going to be upgraded, I thought they were still going to be produced. :(

It looks like the D40 is replacing it, like the D80 has replaced the D70s. We'll know for sure on Thursday when Nikon officially announces the D40.

I for one am not happy with the way they've downgraded the features to the D40 while not reducing the price. Too big a gap now in cost and functionality to the D80. Perhaps that's Nikon's game plan.
 

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I for one am not happy with the way they've downgraded the features to the D40 while not reducing the price. Too big a gap now in cost and functionality to the D80. Perhaps that's Nikon's game plan.

They're seriously going to lose out on some sales. Look at all the people still looking at the D50 as an entry level camera. It was a fantastic camera, a fantastic deal (maybe too good), and the fact that it was lower priced than the Canon Rebel XTi/400D and yet just as good made it incredibly attractive.

If Nikon doesn't fill that hole, it'll be a very big mistake on their part. I think they'll introduce a D50s or D60, but if they don't, then :rolleyes:
 

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I don't like the idea of this whole thing, though.

Because even if the D50 because better (a.k.a. D60, D50S, etc.) , it'll have to be more expensive than the D50 was. Because who would buy the D40 for the same price as the new and improved D50?

Either way, we as consumers lose out.
 

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Isn't the retail price of the D40 supposed to be like $400-500 or something? I thought that making it even lower priced than the D50 was the point of the D40's existence. If they made a D60 at $650, I think that would fill the hole that having no D50 would create.

My main problem is with Nikon losing sales. As my company of choice, they're really going to lose out on some important sales (ie: people with a small budget who want a REAL DSLR). Once people buy a D50, they buy into the system, buy the lenses, and buy better cameras. It's R&D money for Nikon. Yes, the D40 will sell, but if I were on the market for a DSLR today and I didn't have Nikon gear, I wouldn't buy the D40, and I couldn't afford the D80.

As if this DX lens trend by Canon wasn't nerve-racking enough (I know I know, some think it's not a big deal to go with DX lenses, but I don't want to buy FF-incompatible lenses and will stick with this mindset for awhile until a new APS-C sensor that's capable of superb >16 MP performance is assured).

Is Nikon the next Apple? :p There's a friggin hole in your friggin lineup!
 

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Chasseur d'Images changed the page. Now it's the whole issue overview and they just make a little reference to the D40 review, and they say the camera will be available in a month.

The old page said that it would be priced the same as the D50.
 

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Isn't the retail price of the D40 supposed to be like $400-500 or something? I thought that making it even lower priced than the D50 was the point of the D40's existence. If they made a D60 at $650, I think that would fill the hole that having no D50 would create.
Oh, it was my understanding that the D40 was going to be the same price as the D50 was. If this is the case, and the D50 gets upgraded I like this move.
 

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Reduced price for the D40 is just speculation in forums.

The price of the kit at the store that leaked was 600 euros.
 

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Reduced price for the D40 is just speculation in forums.

The price of the kit at the store that leaked was 600 euros.
That is so much money. Is there any chance this site that "leaked" it was only speculation of price? It would have to be lower than that, I would think. They're biggest advantage right now is pricing over Canon.
 

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Stuff is more expensive in Europe, plus you have to take into account German VAT of 16%.
 

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D50 kit (1 lens 18-55) at neckermann.de:

Price reduction (save 220 euros): 579 euros.
 

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Are people forgetting at what price point the D50 started?

It's MSRP was $899 if I recall correctly, so a D40 priced at $500 to start would probably hit $375ish by summer. Price erosion, baaaaaaybe.;)
 

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hey, it's the same sensor as a D50. if you are good at shooting manually, the lack of features shuld make no difference.
 

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Are people forgetting at what price point the D50 started?

Doesn't matter. A D50 exists and it's more camera than the D40 is, so they set the price-performance precedent in the eyes of consumers. I wouldn't recommend a D40 to anyone who was originally thinking about a D50.

Anyway, 630 Euro for a D40, and 579 Euro for a D50 according to Cube. Grreeeeeaaaat.
 

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The D40 comes with a new version of the kit lens.

You can get the D50 kit for 569 euros in France. In Germany for 539.
 
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