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adnbek

macrumors 68000
Oct 22, 2011
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Montreal, Quebec
Why is it necessary to remove the backup password in iTunes before jailbreaking? I don't understand the necessity for this. Can someone care to explain?
 

Freezerburnt

macrumors newbie
Jul 15, 2008
16
0
borrow a windows machine...
download the official IPSW and use that to restore your phone on the windows machine running itunes. For some reason I've always had issues restoring an official firmware on a IOS device on my MacBooks, but always works in windows.

After the restore, disconnect from windows machine and restore it on your mac to restore your previous backup (which I hope you did)

I'll give that a try - thank you!

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Have you tried to restore with Redsn0w?

Culd you guide me through the steps please? I tried to do a pwned DHS on RedSn0w but it didn't work...
 

ritmomundo

macrumors 68020
Jan 12, 2011
2,023
544
Los Angeles, CA
Why is it necessary to remove the backup password in iTunes before jailbreaking? I don't understand the necessity for this. Can someone care to explain?
i was wondering the same thing. Im not sure if the data is encrypted on the phone itself, or just in the itunes backup. So the JB might need unencrypted access to "inject" the JB code.

Also, and I know its an unlikely scenario, but is it possible for the evasi0n devs to collect info (saved passwords, etc) during the JB process?
 

tmoney468

macrumors 6502a
Mar 13, 2007
586
85
i was wondering the same thing. Im not sure if the data is encrypted on the phone itself, or just in the itunes backup. So the JB might need unencrypted access to "inject" the JB code.

Also, and I know its an unlikely scenario, but is it possible for the evasi0n devs to collect info (saved passwords, etc) during the JB process?

Maybe it's because of how they got the jailbreak to work?

Evasi0n alters the socket that allows programs to communicate with a program called Launch Daemon, abbreviated launchd, a master process that loads first whenever an iOS device boots up and can launch applications that require “root” privileges, a step beyond the control of the OS than users are granted by default. That means that whenever an iPhone or iPad’s mobile backup runs, it automatically grants all programs access to the time zone file and, thanks to the symbolic link trick, access to launchd.

http://9to5mac.com/2013/02/05/evasi...hey-used-to-jailbreak-every-apple-ios-device/
 

rocknblogger

macrumors 68020
Apr 2, 2011
2,346
481
New Jersey
It's an anti piracy feature. Try buying the paid version.

That's not true. I bought it and its doing the same thing. At times when I open the app drawer the cards are black. Other times they show the screenshot. Personally I think it looks better in the video demo than live on your phone.
 

Wicked1

macrumors 68040
Apr 13, 2009
3,283
14
New Jersey
There is an article on cnet.com where Apple warns against jail breaking, will be interesting to see if they start to deny Warranty service to JB iPhones as they claim they will.
 

ritmomundo

macrumors 68020
Jan 12, 2011
2,023
544
Los Angeles, CA
That's not true. I bought it and its doing the same thing. At times when I open the app drawer the cards are black. Other times they show the screenshot. Personally I think it looks better in the video demo than live on your phone.

Mine go black as well from time to time, especially if theres more than 8 apps open (I think they're working on a fix for this), but the guy I replied to said his cards were disappearing completely, leaving a blank spot where the card should be, not a black spot.
 

George Knighton

macrumors 65816
Oct 13, 2010
1,391
346
For the first time since switching to iPhones when the 4 came out, I am not interested in jailbreaking.

I've never been into the tweaks that steal battery life and processor cycles, and the addition of Do Not Disturb to the firmware has basically taken care of the only reason I had to jailbreak.

I'll certainly keep my eyes peeled for some fabulous application nobody's thought of before, but jailbreaking with the iPhone 5 is just not a priority for me!
 

olmo47

macrumors newbie
Apr 21, 2011
15
0
Some where near mars
Jailbreack

I like to give my 1 Cent feeling:

I am one that I would prefer to stay with the 'ethical legal' surroundings, and I think that those people that spend many hours making 'application' for all of us, deserve their pay.

I like to give one "however" if I do jailbreack the iPhone i have one reason (valid to me) is that that being able to "tether" my iPhone with laptop or iPad, would be nice to (from time to time) stay in my pajamas and get hook to the web.

As for the moment (and think that would stay that way) I can't pay (Comcast, Verizon, Sprint) for either internet, or hot spot, is out of my badged.

So I am thinking jailbreack the phone just to connect to the web, I would prefer that Apple would aloud that...but I am dreaming...sorry Steve Jobs..and others.

Love your product, and I have bough many applications, and glad to contribute, but how much is enough?

a good costumer
 

M5RahuL

macrumors 68040
Aug 1, 2009
3,413
2,032
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Love your product, and I have bough many applications, and glad to contribute, but how much is enough?

a good costumer

Contribution, if any, should be within the realm of your comfort. Don't feel compelled to donate, especially if you're facing any kind of financial burden!

I've usually donated about $20-$25 to the dev team. However, this time around, I felt a bit generous so upped the ante to $100. I'm loving my iPhone, all over again !! :apple:
 

KanosWRX

macrumors 6502
Jul 14, 2008
417
396
If you pay for 5GB of data ON YOUR PHONE and hack your phone to be able to share some of it with your iPad in order to circumvent the pricing scheme to charge for that option, what would you call it?

I would call it using my phones data how I want. Tell me where is the data going through? the phone, where did I pay for the data, my phone. so tell me again whats wrong with using my phones data? What's next the cell phone companies are going to say I can't use my data to watch netflix, instead ill have to pay for their movie service they might come up with. It's the same idea. If I pay for 5 GB who cares how I use it, I paid for it, its my data!!
 

dukebound85

macrumors Core
Jul 17, 2005
19,131
4,110
5045 feet above sea level
I would call it using my phones data how I want. Tell me where is the data going through? the phone, where did I pay for the data, my phone. so tell me again whats wrong with using my phones data?

I have already laid out the reasoning in my earlier posts.

In short, you agreed to use their service via their terms

Don't like it, don't agree to it.

Furthermore, they price the data plans knowing not everyone uses 5gigs. If everyone did use 5 gigs a month, you can be sure that the data plan pricing would be substantially higher.
 

bilboa

macrumors regular
Jan 16, 2008
213
1
I have already laid out the reasoning in my earlier posts.

In short, you agreed to use their service via their terms

Don't like it, don't agree to it.

Furthermore, they price the data plans knowing not everyone uses 5gigs. If everyone did use 5 gigs a month, you can be sure that the data plan pricing would be substantially higher.

I agree with your last paragraph. The price of data plans without tethering was based on the average amount of data people will use on their phones. People who think they should be entitled to use their phone's data connection as their main home internet connection without paying any more are being a bit naïve.

However, my beef with them is that they don't offer a lower priced tethering plan with less data. I'm a very light data user, and the only time I would use tethering is when I occasionally want to read web pages or check email on my wifi iPad instead of on my iPhone. It's not worth an extra $20 a month to me to buy AT&T's tethering just for that though; I'll just make do with my iPhone in that case. However I never use more than 3 GB per month, so I would buy a 3 GB tethering plan for a few dollars more than my current non-tethering plan if AT&T offered one. I would guess a lot more people would be willing to buy AT&T's tethering plan if they offered more options for light users like myself.
 
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Monkeydo

macrumors newbie
Feb 4, 2013
14
0
Fairly painless!
iPhone 4S iOS 6.1
Mac OS X

DL'd and installed evasi0n on freshly wiped device, 5 minutes.

No stock weather app issue.

Rebuilding from scratch, no iTunes backup or PkgBackup.

Was a bit sluggish loading up Cydia and getting into my account, but all is as it should be, more or less....

Image

Image

Need sleep, will get into some real stuff with iFile tomorrow...

I've looked for your lock screen theme, couldn't find it. Are you able to share please?
 

olmo47

macrumors newbie
Apr 21, 2011
15
0
Some where near mars
Jailbreak

Contribution, if any, should be within the realm of your comfort. Don't feel compelled to donate, especially if you're facing any kind of financial burden!

I've usually donated about $20-$25 to the dev team. However, this time around, I felt a bit generous so upped the ante to $100. I'm loving my iPhone, all over again !! :apple:

We are (financially) If any one had a application for me to 'tether' iPhone with out jailbreak would be happier!

So is there any one can swing one my way?
 

KanosWRX

macrumors 6502
Jul 14, 2008
417
396
I have already laid out the reasoning in my earlier posts.

In short, you agreed to use their service via their terms

Don't like it, don't agree to it.

Furthermore, they price the data plans knowing not everyone uses 5gigs. If everyone did use 5 gigs a month, you can be sure that the data plan pricing would be substantially higher.

Here is the thing. If they say they offer me 5 gigs it doesn't mean they can "assume" I won't use it and therefore make it so I can't use my data how I want. Data is data, like electricity is electricity. They have no right to tell me how to use it. If they want to actually make their data plans reflect your actual data usage then that's another thing. But when you sell 5 gigs then say oh but we didn't think you would actually want to use those 5 gigs... well that's just flat out irresponsible on the companies part.
 

dukebound85

macrumors Core
Jul 17, 2005
19,131
4,110
5045 feet above sea level
Here is the thing. If they say they offer me 5 gigs it doesn't mean they can "assume" I won't use it and therefore make it so I can't use my data how I want. Data is data, like electricity is electricity. They have no right to tell me how to use it. If they want to actually make their data plans reflect your actual data usage then that's another thing. But when you sell 5 gigs then say oh but we didn't think you would actually want to use those 5 gigs... well that's just flat out irresponsible on the companies part.

Of course they do and you agreed to it! You signed the contract where the terms of usage are clearly stated. Tethering is not included in that usage. If you want tethering, pay for their plan. If not, break your contract and don't be surprised if they cut you off or take action. You don't have a legal leg to stand on if they do come after you/cut you off.

You can use all the 5gigs you want per their terms. However, the plans are priced as such that the median usage is less than 5gigs. If they expected everyone to use 5 gigs, they would make the plans more expensive. That doesn't mean you can't use your allotted 5gigs/month in the way you signed up for. I would also bet you don't use exactly 5gigs/month every month right?

This is not a hard concept and this is not the only industry that uses assumptions in overall actual usage when creating "allotments"
 

George Knighton

macrumors 65816
Oct 13, 2010
1,391
346
[He doesn't] have a legal leg to stand on if they do come after [him]/cut [him] off.

I'm curious what you mean by "come after [him]."

I'd agree 100% that the firm would be 100% within its rights cutting him off; however, I cannot help wondering whether it's true in all States jurisdictions that consideration of a promise is required for absolute enforcement at exchequer.

I'm not asserting that. Just saying that I wonder about it.
 

thefourthpope

Contributor
Sep 8, 2007
1,392
740
DelMarVa
So knowingly and willfully violating the terms of a contract is "A-ok" by you, but you call it a 'rude assumption' to think that you might not want to pay for the software you want to use?

Either way, remind me never to be involved in a contract that you're party to. :rolleyes:

Nope. Knowingly and willfully violating the terms of a contract is an unfortunate by-product of that contract being adapted after the fact by ATT without giving me reasonable options to use what I pay for.
And I said it was rude to assume that I laugh at folks. I don't care enough about what you do with your iPhone or think about what I do with my iPhone to laugh at you.

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free apps

Nope. Paid for.
 
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