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Google Launches Free Scan and Match Music Service to Compete With Apple and Amazon

Nunyabinez

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bretm said:
Don't you think 256 AAC is quite a bit better than mp3? Ill take AAC.
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AAC is intended to be an improved format, and I do personally prefer it, but MP3 is still much more widely supported on more devices. My experience is that AAC files at the same bit rate sound better which translates to smaller files sizes for the same sound quality.
 
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petsounds said:
Dear Macrumors,

I don't think you understand what 'free' means. I would think, after the whole Instagram debacle, that this would be more clear.

Google is not doing this out of the kindness of their collective heart. Google want to add your listening habits to the already-gargantuan amount of profile data it has on you.
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So it's ok when you pay for the service? Are you suggesting that Apple doesn't collect information about your iTunes purchases, your iTunes Match library, etc?

For some reason - there are elements of this discussion which seem backwards. That people are more OK paying to have their data collected + a service they want vs getting the service for free and having their data collected.

Newsflash - you can opt of either, both or none. Apple is no more "altruistic" than Google is. No matter how you want to spin it
 
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Morshu9001

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Renzatic said:
Nice ninja edit, by the way. I was about to ask you about that...o_O
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Yeah, about Wikipedia... I didn't want to freak people out. I tried to write an article about V.G. Varun, a rapper, but they removed it, then I kept putting it up, and they kept banning me for it. I didn't change my address just for that. I was IP-banned from some other things unjustly (though Wikipedia probably had justification).
 
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ThisIsNotMe

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Morshu9001 said:
Do you seriously care that Google is collecting all search queries and tracking which sites you click on from there? It's all anonymous. You might as well also complain that Apple is tracking how many people buy iPhones and in which cities.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Needed a good laugh today.
 
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jmcrutch said:
So, Apple struck a negotiated deal with all the labels so that they would be compensated for the music uploaded, much of which has been pirated by some.

Now, Google is doing the same thing, without charging anyone for it. How are the artists getting paid for the cloud versions? Is Google just footing the bill? Maybe. Probably. All under the guise of sucking you further into their world where they make money off of who you are, what you do, what you write, what you search for, and what you think.

I'll stick with Apple, paying my fee, so that I'm the customer and not the product.
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Apple and google are providing you cloud space for you PURCHASED !!! music. What does that have to do with the ARTIST getting paid as you have already purchased the music. You have every right to stick with APPLE but I will gladly take the free service.
 
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Morshu9001

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Nunyabinez said:
AAC is intended to be an improved format, and I do personally prefer it, but MP3 is still much more widely supported on more devices. My experience is that AAC files at the same bit rate sound better which translates to smaller files sizes for the same sound quality.
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On old devices, that is. AAC is a big standard that almost everything can play. I think MP3 just has a lot of fame because of the phrase "MP3 player". People call iPods "MP3 players" even though they mostly play AAC. My iPhone is more of an AAC player.
 
Nunyabinez

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So, I pointed Google Music Match at my iTunes library. Of course, it ignored all my AAC files. However, at first blush it appears to have matched some tracks that iTunes Match couldn't. There is also an option to change the match (haven't tried that yet). So, maybe this will put pressure on Apple to improve their service.
 
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petsounds said:
Dear Macrumors,

I don't think you understand what 'free' means. I would think, after the whole Instagram debacle, that this would be more clear.

Google is not doing this out of the kindness of their collective heart. Google want to add your listening habits to the already-gargantuan amount of profile data it has on you. Of course there is a secondary halo effect of getting you locked in to Google's services. But convincing you to give up more of your privacy in order to more effectively target ads at you is probably the primary goal.

So this is not a 'free' service; it is merely a non-monetary transaction, privacy for some audio files.
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Apple does this too and charges you for it!

Apple just isn't as good at it and needs to compensate by charging users :p
 
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samcraig

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Nunyabinez said:
So, I pointed Google Music Match at my iTunes library. Of course, it ignored all my AAC files. However, at first blush it appears to have matched some tracks that iTunes Match couldn't. There is also an option to change the match (haven't tried that yet). So, maybe this will put pressure on Apple to improve their service.
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Google music supports AAC files. Weird. (see my link above).
 
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NorEaster

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petsounds said:
Dear Macrumors,

I don't think you understand what 'free' means. I would think, after the whole Instagram debacle, that this would be more clear.

Google is not doing this out of the kindness of their collective heart. Google want to add your listening habits to the already-gargantuan amount of profile data it has on you. Of course there is a secondary halo effect of getting you locked in to Google's services. But convincing you to give up more of your privacy in order to more effectively target ads at you is probably the primary goal.

So this is not a 'free' service; it is merely a non-monetary transaction, privacy for some audio files.
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Who says iTunes Match doesn't do the same?! *AND* you have to pay for it.
Since Siri is a free service (meaning there wasn't a 1-time app purchase fee or a subscription fee for it), AND since all Siri queries are recorded by Apple, would you classify Siri also as a "non-monetary transaction" where I'm giving up my search privacy in exchange for easier interaction with my iPhone?
 
nylonsteel

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oh android - keep on tweeking faster good stuff and you may be a suitable platform - who knows - aapl you better keep ahead of where the puck will be... - go tim cook
 
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samcraig

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dalbir4444 said:
Because he heard from reliable sources on this site...
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LagunaSol doesn't count LOL

People often wonder why I'm pretty adamant about correcting people. It's because there are those that could/would be visiting this site - who maybe aren't members, but do a bing or google search and are taken here. They read this FUD and believe it (if no one is countering it with facts). And it just perpetuates.
 
gotluck

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NorEaster said:
Who says iTunes Match doesn't do the same?! *AND* you have to pay for it.
Since Siri is a free service (meaning there wasn't a 1-time app purchase fee or a subscription fee for it), AND since all Siri queries are recorded by Apple, would you classify Siri also as a "non-monetary transaction" where I'm giving up my search privacy in exchange for easier interaction with my iPhone?
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indeed, siri is a very 'google-like' apple service.
 
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Karma*Police

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AppliedMicro said:
So as a far as I gathered:

iTunes Match: 256kbps AAC, downloadable
Amazon: 256kbps MP3, downloadable (?)
Google Play: up to 320kbps streaming-only (?)

Or did I make a mistake there? :confused:

I'm not much interested in streaming but would rather download to store on HD and I prefer MP3 over vendor-specific formats (AAC). So should I go with Amazon?
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AAC isn't vendor specific. It's superior to MP3... 128k AAC is generally considered as good as 256k MP3.
 
kas23

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jmcrutch said:
Then every search you've ever made on Google when signed in has been associated with your IP address. Your internet provider knows who you are (your name address and probably a credit card #) and they certainly know what your IP address is and can be forced to give it up under certain circumstances. So, if certain authorities get the right warrants to present to both your ISP and Google then they can have all of your search data on Google, even 50 years from now.

If you weren't signed in then it wouldn't be there and couldn't be discovered, even with a warrant.

The difference between your ISP and Google is that your ISP isn't keeping a "forever" record of you search queries.
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Really, what are you so paranoid about hiding? Oh ****, I think the Feds are knocking on my door right now for the preggie porn I downloaded last week!

On a serious note, you really should never do a Google search ever again in your life. You can't handle the stress it brings.
 
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castlema

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TXCherokee said:
iTunes Match has worked flawlessly for me. I'd be interested to know what issues others are having.
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I have several playlists which are keyed to the "Last Played" date. iTunes match does not reliably update this data, rendering my playlists useless.
 
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appleguy123 said:
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…which is why, if you're going to pirate from anybody, pirate from high-profile artists, not small-time bands and the like.
 
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