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HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray Battle Over? Warner Switches to Blu-Ray
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DVD prices came down without another format fighting it. BD will come down in price too. I know several friends that would not buy into either HD-DVD or BD unless one of them won. This will make that happen. That is precisely what Warner said in their statement. Both BD and HD-DVD players are equally backward compatible with SD-DVDs. So, with healthy competition among various BD manufacturers, and bigger market, I am sure prices will come down in a sustainable fashion.
that will all change during the 2008 holiday season. because the change to digital tv in early 2009 many people will start considering hdtvs and in turn that will lead to hd disc players sold.
They have. Blu-ray has been consistently outselling HD-DVD of the same titles. 300 BR outsold HD-DVD like 3-1 or something, and that's why Warner is now BR exclusive.
Up-conversion is pretty much a marketing gimmick to get you to spend more on a dvd player. You can't replace resolution and picture information that's not already there.
The thing s that porn is not a decisive factor here, why? because porn strives on the internet. Having Hd DVD porn will not have a market because getting it from the internet is much much easier and private.
Don't have HD yet, an even when I get it I won't get a higher format dvd for a while after.you've obviously don't a 1080p tv and a blu ray player
That proves it. You are reading from the standard HD DVD fanboy handbook. When HD DVD losing, resort to the SD DVD tactic. I've read these exact same comments before on other boards. Do you guys have meetings to plan strategy?
once you get an hdtv and you'll begin to appreciate the quality of the better format. dvd to hd movies are like watching vhs to dvds
All Blu-ray players will playback and upconvert any DVD. Where are you getting your false information from? The HD DVD promotional group?
Did you read before when I said I don't care either way. Personally I don't think there should of been a war to begin with.
Apple announced way back in 2005 (AFTER joining the BR association) that both formats will be supported. Hopefully at Macworld they will finally fulfil that promise.
You have been consistently spreading false information in this thread. Both the HD-A# series of HD DVD players and all Blu-ray players including the PS3 will upconvert Standard Definition DVDs.
Had Toshiba not rejected Sony and Panasonic's overture outside of the DVD Forum to support Blu-ray long before HD DVD was even a spec, the war would have never happened.
Good question.
Do you have any data on this.
That would be nice.
Nope, and I don't plan on getting any until much later.you've obviously don't have a 1080p tv and a blu ray player
Xmas sales showed that standard def was beating both HD's hands down.Good question.
Do you have any data on this.
That would be nice.
Nope, and I don't plan on getting any until much later.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/IBD-0001-21882911.htm
I guess you do and need to feel good about the money you spent on it.you've obviously don't have a 1080p tv and a blu ray player
Lethal
I dunno, I own a ps3 and a 360 with the HD DVD player, and I haven't watched a single Blu Ray movie that looks as good as the HD DVD movies I have. This is on a 720p television, but 1080i looks the best on it, since then it shows native at 1300whatever by 800whatever pixels.
HD DVD just looks better to me, period. Is it the h.264? Blu Ray does mpeg2 like DVD, right? Can't Blu Ray do h.264 also? Are any of them using it yet?
HD DVD just looks better to me, period. Is it the h.264? Blu Ray does mpeg2 like DVD, right? Can't Blu Ray do h.264 also? Are any of them using it yet?
Not really...
Actually, having many friends in the porn industry, I can personally tell you that my buddies at Vivid Entertainment have chosen both formats, which was interesting to say the least. For a while, Sony wouldn't allow adult titles to be published under Blu-Ray for moral reasons. However, Sony gave in an allowed them to pay up a hefty licensing fee just to publish on a Blu-Ray disc. This is the best part... Vivid cannot do any of their own in house encoding for Blu-Ray. They have to send the final product over to Germany to get it done, as part of the agreement.
While, with HD-DVD, they didn't have to pay the royalty fees. Nor do they have to send anything anywhere to get encoded. Actually, their HD-DVD production is all done in house. So it's cheaper in the long run for Vivid, and for consumers.
Even on that note of the porn industry choosing the next format... you're forgetting the missing contender. Online distribution, my friend. And porn has already chosen it. Who wants to watch HD porn anyway, and see the pimples & razor burn in a ridiculously amazing video quality? Not me... count me out!
Blu-Ray has the cooler name. I'll give it that. "HD-DVD" sounds old and dated. We've heard the term "DVD" thrown around for more than a decade now. It's not as appealing to hear the acronym "HD-DVD" because of that. And the Blu-Ray camp advertises that it can hold up to 50GB (25GB per layer). But what makes that interesting is that the Blu-Ray format is having a hard time accessing that second layer, meaning that there realistically only utilizing 25GB. HD-DVD is having no problems using both of their layers, giving them 30GB total (15GB per layer).
Even better yet, both formats are using the same codec (h.264) with nearly the same compression... which means... similar file sizes in the end!!! So what does it matter that Blu-Ray advertises more space? It's not utilized. It's wasted, unless you're storing data on burned Blu-Ray media.
What I really want to get at is that we don't want Sony to win. We know how expensive Sony is to license anything, based upon past examples. Mini-Disc lost. Beta lost. It was expensive for anyone to license. And you know what happens to expensive media? The price gets passed onto the consumer - that's what. And guess what else Sony is involved in? Oh yeah... they're also a movie studio with competition, such as Warner, Universal, New Line, Disney, etc. It's like Apple endorsing and backing WMV. It's stupid, if you ask me. If Blu-Ray wins, you're going to pay more later, as prices WILL MOST DEFINITELY go up.
So guess how much Sony will charge studios to use Blu-Ray if they win the format war? I'll let you use your wildest imagination...
And, for the record, I work in production. When I chose to go HD at the house, I did my homework testing equipment. HD-DVD looked a hair bit better than Blu-Ray, IMHO. It may have had to do with the converters. But I saw better coloring, and smoother pans in HD-DVD. So, yes, I'm on the HD-DVD camp. It's makes better sense economically, and in quality.
That's my rant.
Actually, having many friends in the porn industry, I can personally tell you that my buddies at Vivid Entertainment have chosen both formats, which was interesting to say the least. For a while, Sony wouldn't allow adult titles to be published under Blu-Ray for moral reasons. However, Sony gave in an allowed them to pay up a hefty licensing fee just to publish on a Blu-Ray disc. This is the best part... Vivid cannot do any of their own in house encoding for Blu-Ray. They have to send the final product over to Germany to get it done, as part of the agreement.
While, with HD-DVD, they didn't have to pay the royalty fees. Nor do they have to send anything anywhere to get encoded. Actually, their HD-DVD production is all done in house. So it's cheaper in the long run for Vivid, and for consumers.
Even on that note of the porn industry choosing the next format... you're forgetting the missing contender. Online distribution, my friend. And porn has already chosen it. Who wants to watch HD porn anyway, and see the pimples & razor burn in a ridiculously amazing video quality? Not me... count me out!
Blu-Ray has the cooler name. I'll give it that. "HD-DVD" sounds old and dated. We've heard the term "DVD" thrown around for more than a decade now. It's not as appealing to hear the acronym "HD-DVD" because of that. And the Blu-Ray camp advertises that it can hold up to 50GB (25GB per layer). But what makes that interesting is that the Blu-Ray format is having a hard time accessing that second layer, meaning that there realistically only utilizing 25GB. HD-DVD is having no problems using both of their layers, giving them 30GB total (15GB per layer).
Even better yet, both formats are using the same codec (h.264) with nearly the same compression... which means... similar file sizes in the end!!! So what does it matter that Blu-Ray advertises more space? It's not utilized. It's wasted, unless you're storing data on burned Blu-Ray media.
What I really want to get at is that we don't want Sony to win. We know how expensive Sony is to license anything, based upon past examples. Mini-Disc lost. Beta lost. It was expensive for anyone to license. And you know what happens to expensive media? The price gets passed onto the consumer - that's what. And guess what else Sony is involved in? Oh yeah... they're also a movie studio with competition, such as Warner, Universal, New Line, Disney, etc. It's like Apple endorsing and backing WMV. It's stupid, if you ask me. If Blu-Ray wins, you're going to pay more later, as prices WILL MOST DEFINITELY go up.
So guess how much Sony will charge studios to use Blu-Ray if they win the format war? I'll let you use your wildest imagination...
And, for the record, I work in production. When I chose to go HD at the house, I did my homework testing equipment. HD-DVD looked a hair bit better than Blu-Ray, IMHO. It may have had to do with the converters. But I saw better coloring, and smoother pans in HD-DVD. So, yes, I'm on the HD-DVD camp. It's makes better sense economically, and in quality.
That's my rant.
It could be handy for the porn to be HD and everything else BluRay, all the wife would see would be "disc error"
Now, where can I get a portable dual format player???
Great, but that doesn't mean ****.
Go back to when DVD was first being adopted and you'll be able to find articles about VHS still outselling DVD.
You should tell them that it's 2008 and people get their porn from bittorrent now.
Oh, and Sony isn't the only one who developed blu-ray (they were pretty much the sole developers of betamax)
Perhaps you would have been happy with this format. It is SD after all. I'm sure it would have looked great being upconverted to 1080p.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VCD
Big difference, You did not need a new TV. Until a person is going to buy a new TV there is no reason to get an HD format player.
Had VCD taken off it would have buried DVD. It was just 10 years ahead of its time. When VCD's came out people were not ready for them. DVD came in at the right time and took a few years to even grab ahold of the market.