What makes you think that these manufacturers got rid of the headphone jack because of an Apple rumor? The designs were most likely finalized before the rumors of the iPhone 7 even came out. Both of these devices use USB C, which can transmit audio (like lightning), so it is not surprising that they opted to get rid of the headphone jack. Especially since USB is a more open standard than lightning, so there will hopefully be some reasonably priced USB C headphones. Honestly I'm surprised Apple didn't kill of the headphone jack in the new MacBook. I wouldn't be surprised if the next update of that laptop gets it knocked out, to make it just have one port.Apple hasn't even announced the iPhone 7 yet and 2 manufacturers are already releasing phones with no headphone jacks based on rumors that Apple was going to remove theirs. How's that for not making any sense?
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/10/11900992/moto-z-specs-no-headphone-jack
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/6/9/11893044/leeco-headphone-jack-usb-c-smartphones
Oh, and that "pathetic non upgradeable" computer is outselling PC's.
http://fortune.com/2016/04/12/dude-youre-getting-a-mac/
That is true. If you have a battery case on then what. And I agree with you that to suggest that a manufacturer did something just because a rumor came out from Apple is non sense as you stated.What makes you think that these manufacturers got rid of the headphone jack because of an Apple rumor? The designs were most likely finalized before the rumors of the iPhone 7 even came out. Both of these devices use USB C, which can transmit audio (like lightning), so it is not surprising that they opted to get rid of the headphone jack. Especially since USB is a more open standard than lightning, so there will hopefully be some reasonably priced USB C headphones. Honestly I'm surprised Apple didn't kill of the headphone jack in the new MacBook. I wouldn't be surprised if the next update of that laptop gets it knocked out, to make it just have one port.
I didn't read through the entire 9 page thread, so forgive me if this has been mentioned, but one issue that might crop up with no headphone jack is in battery cases. People that use battery cases daily wouldn't have any way to get audio out of their phone except wirelessly. Since all of the MFi battery cases (excluding Apple's own) use micro USB, there wouldn't be any possibility of audio out. Even if they moved up to using USB C I kinda doubt that would pass through the audio signal (although it seems feasible).
Negative impacts for Apple:
- The existence of better alternatives with a headphone jack could encourage people to switch, decreasing sales of the iPhone 7. Although this could be counteracted by people opting for the SE/6S instead, no headphone jack and a similar design makes it likely to see a dip in sales compared to other iPhone releases.
There was a time way back in 1999 with the introduction of the iMac that Apple removed the 3.5" floppy disk.
The Apple community at the time screamed bloody murder and buried Apple with negative publicity.
Apple survived.
They will survive this too.
PS. You have to wonder about those who want the iPhone but can't let go of the 19th century technology that is the headphone jack.
Wireless changing would have been nice to mitigate that. Fortunately I don't find that I do that very often.This may not be a big deal, but now you can't charge and have headphones in at the same time.
I agree. I don't need to do it often - but until wireless charging comes to the iPhone, those days are gone.Wireless changing would have been nice to mitigate that. Fortunately I don't find that I do that very often.
That's true because, as you say, the majority of iPhone users can't afford (not in terms of cost) to switch. But those who recently switched to iPhone or who may have been thinking of switching to Android may want to switch to Android. It shouldn't affect sales since the new colors will sell and appeal to more people.My guess is that the majority of iPhone owners will not be pushed to an alternative brand/eco-system because of the headphone jack. My entire family uses Apple products, phones, tablets, computers, Apple TV, Airport, iCloud etc... and the reason we do is because it all works together with minimal hassle. We're not going to throw that away over a 3.5mm connector.
Assuming they ship the next iPad with Lightning EarPods, before you know it you'll have unopened sets of them lying around the house and you'll laugh when you dig out a pair with a 3.5mm jack. I was at my parents house a couple of months ago and noticed a 30 pin dock connector to FW400 cable in a box...
If they've just used the same or similar DAC and amp, but put it in the cable or dongle instead of the phone, the quality will be the same. If headphones use a cheaper DAC or amp than previous iPhones, it will be worse. High impedance headphones using a quality DAC and stronger amp than in previous iPhones will sound better than if equivalent phones were plugged directly into a previous iPhone.My question is will there be the same or better audio quality using the lighting port for headphones??
Negative impacts for Apple:
Positive impacts for consumers:
- A recent YouTube video showed how the lack of headphone jack could reduce music listening either due to having to use an adapter for certain situations or having to charge the headphones which discourages listening. That could decrease Apple Music usage.
- The existence of better alternatives with a headphone jack could encourage people to switch, decreasing sales of the iPhone 7. Although this could be counteracted by people opting for the SE/6S instead, no headphone jack and a similar design makes it likely to see a dip in sales compared to other iPhone releases.
Other impacts:
- Better wireless and more lightning options will hit the market.
- The advantages that come with lightning headphones.
Any possible impacts I haven't mentioned?
- Phone manufactures will think it's acceptable, as they did with camera bumps, and may remove the headphone jack on their phones, as we can already see by phones like the Moto Z.
- More USB-C headphones will be available.
The lightning connector will be long gone in 10-20 years and the 3.5mm jack will still be here...
Won't matter to me because BT tech will be even better in 10-20 years, so I'll be using it then as I am using it now.The lightning connector will be long gone in 10-20 years and the 3.5mm jack will still be here...
I am torn with the headphone jack. I use headphones all the time. Hours and hours per day. So charging is going to be a challenge. I also am excited for a good working set of bluetooth ear buds. I have jumped on the Kickstarter bandwagon for a few different ones that have been dragging there feet to be released. Kanoa is one that I am most excited about. The issue with the wireless BT earbuds is the tech isn't there yet. Braggi has had there earbuds out for a while and they have had a lot of updates in the software due to poor connection between the two ear buds. Hopefully apple ora 3rd party releases a dongle that will allow 3.5 jack and charging. but who knows. I like the specs of the new ip7+ and would love to upgrade. The headphone/Charging questions is one thing that is giving me pause.
Apple will need to start including the air pods with iPhones for that to work, otherwise you'll still have lots of people stuck with either headphones that don't work on their phone without an adapter or won't work on anything but their phone.I think the pain will be short-lived. Next year the air pods will probably get 7-8 hours on a single charge and wireless charging is around the corner. I think it's a pain in the butt until they playback time increases and wireless charging is available, just my thoughts.
No, they could have kept it and made it water resistance. I don't understand why some people are in this Apple only bubble - there are phones that are equally or even more water-proof.. and guess what? They have a headphone jack!Yes, by removing the 3.5 mm jack it has become possible to make the iPhone more water resistant. I know of several cases where an iPhone landed up in a swimming pool, toilet bowl, a lake or the sea….. a costly mistake.
-1 out of 10 for artist ability
but my view on apples £/$15 workaround for 0% battery and wired headphone.
One thing I'm certain someone else can do a better image! its meant to be all while BTW!!
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