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iOS 10 Likely to Include Standalone HomeKit App Designed by Apple [Update: Hoax]
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Yes, but you have to do one or the other: either you bloat the device but you let people remove anything they don't want, either you don't bloat the device and only force apps that are necessary.
Which Android phones comes with a complete installation at less than 1GB?
That's it! None...
Well they evidently see the apps that are present and unremovable, AS necessary. Simple. It's hardly "bloat" - I can't say I have EVER concerned myself about Apple apps that are not removable, nor have I bothered to try to remove them... they're just... there... and unused, and unless you have OCD, who cares!
Oh good another app I won't ever use and I won't be able to delete.
It's probably designed to unify all your Homekit devices in on app, otherwise you will have a separate app for each type of device.
Unless, of course, it is designed by the same UI teams behind the current versions of iTunes, OS X, and iOS....
HomeKit should be optional or a free app like the apps apple give to you when you buy an iPhone/iPad (Pages, Garage Band, etc), why should I get/have something I don't want/use?
Some of you are discussing and attacking others because they have 16g, but instead of that Why don't you blame apple for that? You guys attack Android users with the same about useless apps, but iOS users have these too (compass, podcast, tips, stocks etc). Tbh I don't want HomeKit, it's useless I don't need an app for my house, I need a battery to stay in communication with my family and friends when I need it
Some of you are discussing and attacking others because they have 16g, but instead of that Why don't you blame apple for that? You guys attack Android users with the same about useless apps, but iOS users have these too (compass, podcast, tips, stocks etc). Tbh I don't want HomeKit, it's useless I don't need an app for my house, I need a battery to stay in communication with my family and friends when I need it
This should have been included when HomeKit was first announced.
It's a psychological problem known as "double standard" and often accompanied by denial. Therapy is recommended but those who are afflicted are often unwilling to admit the need for such intervention.
Do these apps really take up that much space on a phone. Stick them in a folder and then you never have to look at them.
Size is not the concern for me, I used to laugh how much bloated apps there were on android when I was using the early versions of iPhone, and how the iPhone experience was refined and simplistic , fast forward, need a folder now just like android , to hide stuff....
[doublepost=1462599145][/doublepost]Had a chat with someone on the weekend who used a number of the HomeKit accessories, it's interesting stuff, a bit gimmicky but cool for those of use that love thier gadgets
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What.....??. Adding bloatware has in no way made operation of iPhone simpler. And there is zero impact for support purposes for apps you will never use. On the contrary, if these apps were to impact support, having them there does the opposite.
HomeKit:
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It's an app, not sure what you're getting at. Apple provides Photo Apps, did they break the jpg standard by doing so?
"there is an app for that" more and more looks like bad design. Things like Apple TV remote and HomeKit should be integrated into OS in a way that there is o need for an app. Now that would be some serious statement in software design.
Best universal HomeKit app in the App Store for me so far is Hesperus (https://appsto.re/de/CCXX5.i).
Advantage over Home is that lights can be directly switched on/ off by tapping on it. It also has nice 3D Touch integration within the app.
As HomeKit already has Siri integration, what could an app made by Apple do better than 3rd party apps?
Advantage over Home is that lights can be directly switched on/ off by tapping on it. It also has nice 3D Touch integration within the app.
As HomeKit already has Siri integration, what could an app made by Apple do better than 3rd party apps?
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Those Apps take very little space, all of them together, they're just front ends for existing back-end services that you can't remove even if Apple allowed people to download the app (like control panels in windows). Many software parts are likely also reused.
I got 2 16GB Phones, the 6s and 3GS.
Another waste of cycles from apple, how about fixing the problems rather than adding more and more bloat.
I don't know...maybe if Apple had offered a good comprehensive control app from the beginning the popularity and adoption rate of HomeKit would of been better.
I'd love to see a more cohesive vision for what Apple imagines is the best case scenarios for smart homes. I have a bunch of Philips Hue light bulbs, and I've seen other gadgets (smart locks, cameras, etc) but it's all a bit piecemeal right now. I'd love to see an inspiring and elegant story or ad that made me want to continue with this "smartifying". Part of me wants to do it but it feels like it's introducing friction rather than removing it and that would be ok, I suppose, if it felt more delightful.
It would be nice if there was a menu in settings from where you can enable/disable (some) Apple apps, deleting all the unnecessary resources. When you want to make it show up again, it just downloads them (wifi only or not, according to your settings). But this would be simply attached to your OS installation and not have anything to do with the app store.
What is the usable space with 16GB? It is 11.9GB... What is 16-11.9? It is 4.1GB... Even if you factoring in the difference between bytes and bits, iOS still takes way more than 1GB...So what is your point?
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