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I think he also plays guitar sometimes.
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iOS 7 to Ship 'On Time' as OS X Engineers Pitch In
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He's the father of paths. Thanks to him we can have nested folders. If it wasn't him, we'd keep all our files in the same folder.
I think he also plays guitar sometimes.
To quote Arcade Fire: You seem to like "using great big words that [you] dont understand. For a product to be "vaporware" it has to 1) be officially announced as such & 2) the stated ship date has to be significantly missed to the point people doubt it ever will. I don't know of any products Apple has announced this year, only broad ambiguous statements & lots of unsourced rumor mill fodder. Do tell us your concrete info & source. Make news here.
You can doubt Tim Cook, fair enough based on his record to-date. But it's a bit far fetched to suggest he is going to start announcing product that will never exist.
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Exactly.If only apple had enough money to hire more engineers
twigman08 said:
It amazes me how short-sighted people are. Every time this straightforward and logical solution is proposed, the same reply comes up defending the idea that the richest tech company in the world can't actually put sufficient resources into properly developing its software and/or online services.
If they are once again pulling people off of one project (OS X) to work on another (iOS), then they simply don't have enough people.
Maybe they can't get people hired and working productively on iOS 7 or OS 10.9 in time to make a difference for this release cycle. Let's just suppose this is the case for the sake of argument. What about preparing for the next release cycle, then? Does this mean they should never hire enough people so they have enough of an iOS team and an OS X team that they don't have to keep pulling people from one project and putting them another (and thus delaying the other project)?
There are 7+ billion people in the world. Some of these people actually write software for a living. I find it hard to believe that there is no one else with the right credentials who, given 6 months or a year at Apple, could be contributing productively to Apple's software development. I'm not saying that no one from OS X should ever help out with iOS, but does one really need to be put on hold so the other can be done properly?
Rogifan said:
If this is true, it's 6 years too late, but still welcome. Maybe in a year's time we may actually be able to see software development for both iPhone/iPad and the Mac going forward without having to assume that if one is being worked on, then the other is being putting on the shelf.
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Apple doesn't give a **** about you. A release date is not for you, it's for people working at Apple in order for the project management to follow the established route.
So yeah there is always a date for any product release.
More evidence.....
about how iOS had grown in importance, at Mac OS X expense. It is a decission with business sense, the money right now is in iDevices.....how much longer, nobody surely knows. And also makes strong my point about 10.9 purring in mid-late 2014....
about how iOS had grown in importance, at Mac OS X expense. It is a decission with business sense, the money right now is in iDevices.....how much longer, nobody surely knows. And also makes strong my point about 10.9 purring in mid-late 2014....
Too bad Apple doesn't have the cash to hire additional engineers.
(yes, I understand it takes time to get new employees up to speed and productive, so it wouldn't help right now; but they've had years to work out this particular issue)
Gah, beaten by 2 minutes.
WWDC sold out during the same timespan that took place between the first post and yours. Amazing!
It's probably scheduled internally at Apple, and a scheduled release can definitely be delayed.
Makes sense...
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
You're very welcome
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Considering a lot of people in the forum are dying to get an iOS7 Beta.... Who cares?
They have been hiring people, they never stopped. Or do you not remember Jobs talking about the bigger space they will need since they keep hiring more and more people and renting more and more space but it is not enough so ghey will need the space ship campus?
september ? I was hoping something would happen in the apple world in the first half year of 2013. but I guess apple has a new tradition, too keep everything to end of each year....just pile it all up. Guess at least its easy to know when to buy/wait
I was hoping something would happen in the apple world in the first half year of 2013. but I guess apple has a new tradition, too keep everything to end of each year....just pile it all up. Guess at least its easy to know when to buy/wait 
So in 2 years Apple will make phones and Microsoft will have the best computer OS again. Some mac users are starting to flirt with Windows 8 already, which is also touch screen. Mac OSX needs many fixes.
He's the father of paths. Thanks to him we can have nested folders. If it wasn't him, we'd keep all our files in the same folder.
I think he also plays guitar sometimes.
Now look at iCloud document folders...
C'mon..everyone is expecting a preview of iOS 7 at WWDC. And although no one knows anything for sure, if WWDC comes and goes with no mention of iOS 7, people will be pissed. And if iOS 7 was delayed, then so would the 5S most likely. "On time" is in line with whenever the 5S is to be released. So internally, "on time" means something. Just because we don't know when that is, doesn't matter one bit.
The issue with Apple having enough money to hire more workers is, actually, not true.
A large portion of Apple's finances are tied up in their overseas projects, locations, etc, etc.
Apple doesn't want to bring that money back to the US because that money would end up getting double-taxed - it was taxed already by the country it was earned in, and would get taxed again by the US government, which has the highest tax % of money being brought into a country from another in the world.
A large portion of Apple's finances are tied up in their overseas projects, locations, etc, etc.
Apple doesn't want to bring that money back to the US because that money would end up getting double-taxed - it was taxed already by the country it was earned in, and would get taxed again by the US government, which has the highest tax % of money being brought into a country from another in the world.
This could be true or . . .
They could have a flexible number. ie instead of having set numbers for OSX and iOS separately, Apple has a total number of workers for OSX and iOS combined. And Apple just take one off one project and put them on the other whenever the need arises. It's happened in the past. And I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.
If only apple had enough money to hire more engineers
This is a very common misconception I've heard many times before.
It's not a question of money it's just not that simple, the talent pool is just not available, and having teams of 1000 engineers is not a good idea.
Unless you're like Samsung, who apparently put 1000 monkeys in a room at typewriters hoping to come up with Shakespeare. Hence, their latest "feature list" that looks like the cat stepped on the keyboard.
When he reviewed the iPad mini, he said it was only $30 more than the nexus 7. This is how informed he is.
Edit: $50, not $30. http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/10/30/review-ipad-mini/
short-sighted? you are the one who is short-sighted if you believe throwing more people into the mix is going to make things right.
1)apple has $145 BILLION in cash. if they thought hiring more people would be the answer, then they would do it. can you give me one good reason why they wouldn't? ill tell you why, because(like many others in this thread) realize throwing more people to develop an already complex OS is just asking for disaster. you stick with the people that know how to do it. how many other companies do you know that have $145 billion in cash? when you work on project management and software development(especially under pressure to hit target dates), simply throwing more people into the mix isn't the best idea.
2)why do you or anyone else care if apple pulls engineers from OSX to IOS? the article states IOS will ship 'on time'. does the article state OSX wont ship on time because of it?
3)they pulled OSX engineers from to develop IOS once before, how did that work out for them? 500 million IOS devices sold to date. i have no problem with them pulling engineers once again because it clearly has worked for them in the past.
not really sure why people in this thread are whining about this, the article states IOS will ship on time. nowhere in the article does it say the next release of OSX will be delayed because of it. i guess people just like to complain.
Bwahahahaha! That gave me a good laugh.
More like back-channel PR mouthpiece/super fanboy.