Just don't play that numbers game with Samsung. Dumbing down a system to a few numbers is not the way to go. Give it another month and someone, somewhere will build a smartphone with a cpu far more powerful than the A6.
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iPhone 5 A6 Processor - Neither Cortex A9 nor A15
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FWIW, the iPhone 4S now gets over 100,000 with iOS 6 due to improvements in Safari. So the iPhone 5 CPU (on this particular test) should be in the realm of the international Galaxy S3 (and well ahead of the US version). And yes the GPU in the iPhone 5 should blow away anything else as nothing was anywhere near twice as fast as the A5 in graphics.
Maybe on some GSM carrier with Faux-G. Certainly not on Verizon 3G where 1mbps is the norm around here on a good day with down to 300 not unheard of and 2mbps is the max your going to get.
I've gotten over 170000 on my galaxy nexus. In cpu benchmarks rather than browser benchmarks the snapdragon s4 completely wipes the floor with cortex a9.
Err...
Even if 2 months less the original point stands.
No, the original post said the S3 was older
Probably just a brainfart type of unintentional mistake.
But at what cost. Obviously we are going to have to wait until some real world reviews come in but from the looks of things Apple has made a faster phone with better battery even with an juice sucking LTE chipped attached. Building a faster CPU isn't difficult, it's keeping power use low while making a fast chip is the tricky part.
Browsermark is a web browser based benchmark and results can change with software update.
Do it using an iPhone 4S running iOS 6. You won't have the same results.
From iOS 5 to iOS 6, it went from 8X,XXX to this:
http://twicsy.com/i/ggU9Jb
And again, all that with a simple software update on a 800mhz dualcore phone vs a 1.4Ghz quadcore phone.
The iPhone 5 will destroy this score. Believe me.
even after reading books like computer architecture: a quantitative approach, I am still finding their tutorials and reviews fun to read
I don't know what to tell you, Anandtech says the Galaxy Nexus (probably running Android 4.0) gets around 90,000. It seems unlikely the Galaxy Nexus would get the same score as the international Galaxy S3. You must be running a different test or something? Or is there a different version of the Galaxy Nexus that doesn't have the 1.2 ghz ARM A9 (and relatively underpowered GPU).
A5X is twice as fast as A5 in graphics
Ha, of course I meant "of contemporary smartphones"
It will probably be better. Note that power is completely related to power consumption. In fact, the only thing holding back process power in mobile phones (as well as desktops/servers) is power consumption. In mobile this is true directly because they run off batteries, so you have limited power. In servers this is essential because electricity is one of your largest costs. In desktops, the heat being generated has reached a point where CPUs cannot really function (this was the reason Intel had to reduce clock speeds and end their Pentium line).
Additionally, if what the article says about the A15 actually being developed for servers initially, then it is very likely that the Apple variant will be better for cellphones.
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Apple pays for both, since they are still using the A5 (and variants) in other products. I don't believe it is a per device license either, so I expect Apple will continue to pay for both even after they are exclusively using their own designs simply so they have the option of switching to the ARM design.
"Prioritizing power and efficiency" over what, good looks?
Would you have preferred priority of exterior appearance over internal substance? This thread being about a processor, can you explain how and why a chip package should look any different?
"Prioritizing power and efficiency" over what, good looks?
Clock speed bragging rights. Think 900MHz with great battery life vs 1.7GHz with 2 mins battery life.
You're right. 2 CPUs that I'm aware of. The Qualcomm and Nvidia chips. Nvidia being the inter nation model. I have both phones as we test these devices at work. I carry these around as well as iPhones. The S3's are not great on battery life. I'm interested to see how the iPhone 5 fairs.
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Yup. It's a back and forth thing. Truth is, as soon as you buy something, it's obsolete. It's the game.
You're right. I'm far more interested in what this will allow for *iPhone* apps and games and things than a mostly meaningless comparison to what Samsung will be shipping. It's just interesting from a techhy perspective which chip is theoretically faster or whatever. But far less important than what third party iOS devs will be able to do with a huge amount of additional performance and double the RAM.
The GPU in the galaxy nexus isn't underpowered. Its not as fast as the one in the exynos but its still fast and does very well in overall performance. Software updates for the nexus have increased its browser performancs significantly.
If you look back to the way computers were designed and build in the 1960s and 1970s, back then ALL companies made there one CPUs and each had it's own operating system. Every company had total control over their line of computers.
Apple did not invent this. It is just the only way it was done. Apple one of the few "vertical" computer companies who make everything. I think IBM was first.
IBM started in the late 1880's (yes in the 19th century) with mechanical computers then moved into vacuum tubes in the mid 20th century but always they controlled the entire "experience", sales, repair, training and so on.
I hope more companies get back to this idea.
Apple did not invent this. It is just the only way it was done. Apple one of the few "vertical" computer companies who make everything. I think IBM was first.
IBM started in the late 1880's (yes in the 19th century) with mechanical computers then moved into vacuum tubes in the mid 20th century but always they controlled the entire "experience", sales, repair, training and so on.
I hope more companies get back to this idea.
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Exactly, looking at real world use and real bottle necks and adapt after that is a much better approach than premature optimization for the sake of bullet point lists in marketing material.
It is. It has a PowerVR SGX540 GPU which is not in the same class as the SGX543MP2 in the iPhone 4S. Anandtech called it "dated" as it was used in phones from 2010- the old Galaxy S had it in a lower clocked version.
This is one of those times when you wonder why people jump all over Apple for somehow using "old hardware" when the marquee "SuperGeek Google Experience" phone used a somewhat old and underpowered GPU (compared to what was available at the end of 2011- I should have said this before as adjectives like "underpowered" are meaningless without an explanation). If you don't care about graphically intense games or certain kinds apps of course it might not matter.
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Ha.Ha..We will have to have Anand lecture them on that and see if they turn around
Anand and his team rock big time! Compared to the zillions of parasite link bloggers, they do original work.
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This has all be highly technical, at least for me, and very interesting to read...
But, when we're scoring a Benchmark of any kind 90,000-160,000 whatever... WTH is that? Really, do we need to inflate our ego's by comparing our BENCHMARKS are "THIS BIG..."?
The point is, these phones are getting to be so fast and powerful, it's like having a laptop in your pocket...
Coachingguy
But, when we're scoring a Benchmark of any kind 90,000-160,000 whatever... WTH is that? Really, do we need to inflate our ego's by comparing our BENCHMARKS are "THIS BIG..."?
The point is, these phones are getting to be so fast and powerful, it's like having a laptop in your pocket...
Coachingguy
Word around is that an ARM architecture license (allowing a company to do their own custom version) is way way more expensive than a license to just use one of their standard cores. But rumor is that Apple has been licensing all of the above since long ago.
If this hypothesis is correct, an interesting question is whether Apple has just turned up some frequencies and cache sizes, or whether they doing something fancier, such as out-of-order multiple instruction issue and the like. With control of LLVM technology, they may have the capability to do some targeted higher accuracy branch prediction as well.