so did gruber do apple a favor by saying this??
Also apple now cant complain others are copying them.
Also apple now cant complain others are copying them.
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John Gruber: Apple Invented USB Type C
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I guess they wanted to conform to the USB-C standard and that that meant not having a magnet.
The MBA was already too light for MagSafe 2 in that they had to make the magnet for it so weak for it to be safe that the cable fell out all the time by accident. I'd still prefer a slightly overpowered magnet over no magnet at all, though.
Only if you're in the minority of users that are going to be connecting a lot of things.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/6/7505187/apple-macbook-2015-usb-type-c-reversible
Yep, they "invented" it, just like all the other things Apple has invented (like rectangular phones).
Lightning was already perfect for what USB-C does and more. It's frustrating that they're making yet another port now. The problem is that nothing else could have a Lightning port because Apple didn't allow it.
Lol... the "MagSafe" technology is not a port, it's a feature added on a port that's called magnetism. It probably couldn't have been added to USB-C because it lacks a surface to put the magnets on, but it'd be sad to see such a great technology fade away.
To be fair, that reference board is missing a whole lot of stuff such as storage and networking.
You mean just ONE thing. Yeah, you're safe as long as you don't want to connect anything to it that uses regular USB (or anything besides USB-C), and if you want to connect something that uses USB-C, you can't be charging your laptop at the same time. I don't have the numbers, but I think the majority of users would need a dongle.
Exactly. Apple have not said this. And it's not confirmed until Apple say it.
Let MacRumors and all the others confuse what is rumour and what is fact. We all know this IS a rumour till Apple confirm or deny it.
And Gruber is not Apple.
Couldn't give a monkeys bare rear end who 'invented' it! It's a COMPLETE FAIL that they ditched MagSafe!!!
Such innovation thrown away in the new look Apple.
Such innovation thrown away in the new look Apple.
Lol unfortunately yeah... this is such a good summary... #
And maybe the price? Lightning cables were overly expensive and the lightning technology itself was also overly expensive.
I'm really dreaming of the day we only see one type of port do absolutely everything. As of USB2 I thought we were getting closer and closer.
You don't want your data cable to be as easily detachable as a MagSafe cable. If the cable came undone during transfer it could seriously corrupt files.
Yes, it can. Apple sells an adaptor from Lightning to HDMI that handles 1080p here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD826ZM/A/lightning-digital-av-adapter
Now, could they have added data to MagSafe (ie, created a new connector that disconnects as easily as MagSafe and by extension also connects as easily as MagSafe)? There are a few good reason why that might not have been possible:
- MagSafe is disconnected by tilting the connector, ie, using leverage to overcome the magnets force. Directly pulling it out requires quite a lot of force. Pulling at the cable is thus not something recommended and pulling at the plug requires quite a lot of finger strength. This tilting is possible because the actual electric connection inside the MagSafe connector is head-on, ie, like fingertips touching each other. All data connections I know make the connection by 'fingers' touching each other by parallel overlapping. This allows to use a spring type force pressing them together. It also allows many more 'pins' that what a head-on connection of the MagSafe type allows.
Therefore tilting is out for data connections, which would make a MagSafe data connector much harder to unplug. On top of that, as strong as the magnets are, they are still not strong enough to provide the force that one currently needs to push in existing data plugs. And the overlapping fingers type of of plugs are sitting so tight (needed to ensure the fingers properly touch each other) that they are harder to pull out that the current MagSafe connector.
- Having a data connection inside the MagSafe connector might be difficult because the magnets might interact with the data signal.
- We still don't want data storage volumes to be disconnected before unmounting them (hot-disconnection is fine for monitors and network connections). A MagSafe type connector that is designed to be connected without warning cannot guarantee this.
Isn't it only expensive because of Apple's fees? If you buy unlicensed Lightning to USB adaptors in batches of 10 off eBay, as I have been doing, they're less than $1 per cable. They're like $15 minimum per cable elsewhere. By the way, USB to mini USB cables and such are about that price in retail stores; they're only cheap online.
But their WILL be people who will, and they will no doubt blame Apple then for having corrupt data.
MagSafe was and is perfectly happy dealing with your power and charging, just use other ports for anything else..
Of course if Johny Ive wasn't so utterly obsessed with driving things to be as thin as a man hair, we wouldn't have these issues.
Really? It doesn't seem like a negative with iPhones and iPads...
I expect this to be the same. The days of charging your laptop while you use it are over.
Fair enough, I realize Apple has to dumb down alot of stuff for the majority of non tech people.
I'll be pretty happy if Apple starts adopting this more as well as other hardware manufacturers. It's been a long time coming for apple to adopt a standard even if they created it.