Mac App Store - Essentially kills sites like MacUpdate, etc....!

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    anim8or

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    Am I correct in thinking that the Mac App Store does in fact kill websites such as MacUpdate and the like???

    If people want free mac apps then they will surely go through the mac app store as they will know that apple has approved them and therefor they should be safe as well as good apps.

    I know some devs will still choose not to sell through the Mac App store but most probably will???
     
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    angelwatt

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    Yes, unfortunately it will reduce the need for such sites. Many new Mac users don't know about those sites, so the App Store will help a lot of people. I rarely go to them myself. The ramifications of the App Store are still to be known, but sites like MacUpdate will not be happy.
     
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    rKunda

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    Hurt yes. Kill? I don't know. A lot of apps won't qualify for the store.
     
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    anim8or

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    Its a shame really... I admit i don't visit those sites much anymore as i pretty much feel that i have all the apps i need and have done for a while....

    But they really helped me find some really great apps back in the day!
     
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    I'm guessing devs will do what artists do through iTunes. They'll list on the Mac App Store for the publicity, advertising and ratings and also sell through their own site to maximize the profits. Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of MacUpdate and the like anyway.
     
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    Apple already promotes 3rd party apps on their site and it doesn't hurt MacUpdate. I suspect that Apple's new Mac store will hurt a bit, but only for people who are new to the Mac - who really aren't using MacUpdate anyway.
     
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    biggd

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    Most people that visit that site wont need the app store.

    But my mom would never know to go there, and she'll use the app store. And it will be marvelous for her.
     
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    goobot

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    it will just have all the non approved apps. and trust me there will be a lot of them
     
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    pineapple216

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    Indeed. The mac store will be like the app store on iOS.
    Apple checks the applications developers submit, and Apple decides wether to approve those apps or not.

    I bet we won't see applications like Onyx, and Secrets, in the app store, because apps like these are applications that the normal mac user won't use.
     
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    applemagic123

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    well yah, but...

    When "normal" mac users find out about cool apps like SECRETS, or, what I like better, TINKER TOOL, they will think it's so cool. The mac app store is going to have millions of retarded apps just like the iphone/ipod touch's app store having millions of bu$# S*$( apps that are a total waste of code.

    I was once a "normal" mac user myself, then I educated myself and learned how to think outside of the box.
     
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    PurrBall

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    Sites like MacUpdate and VersionTracker will just be like the Cydia for OS X. They'll feel a bit of hurt, but not enough to shut down.
     
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    SDAVE

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    Fart App controlled by your keyboard....ftw!
     
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    mrsir2009

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    Yes, I feel sorry for them :( Maybe they will make their own app for Mac users to download?
     
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    kernkraft

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    In the long run, there is even a chance that MacUpdate will profit from this segment of the market being exposed to the same market techniques as in the iTunes App Store. Expect a lot of silly apps appearing and the OS X software market extending the range towards the bottom.

    However, I hope that some of these greedy developers will stop selling absolutely useless applications for the current price that they charge. I am more curious about Apple application bundles. The last MUPromo was so lame that I thought that the developers made a pact against the bundle organisers.

    Apple's cut is around 35% in the App Store I think, so I don't expect everybody agreeing to that. Let's not forget that it's much easier to ignore Apple when it comes to purchasing applications for the Mac. You don't have to jailbreak your computer, to start with...
     
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    maflynn

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    Hurt, yes, kill no.

    There are many developers that will be unwilling or unable to successfully pass the submission review. While there are benefits to having your app hosted by apple in their app store, there is a cost, and that cost may be too high for some developers.

    Take panic, they sell transmit directly, and you can download it via macupdate, or rapidweaver from realmacsoftware. I highly doubt that they'll go the app store route and basically cut 30% of their income (yes I'm sure they have overhead from directly selling their apps).

    the small guy that wants to write the next ifart app, he'll have it hosted by apple, but some of the larger more established authors probably won't
     
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    A major part of taking an application to market is figuring out how to get the product to the customer. The Mac App Store takes the place of a traditional publisher and there are a number of good reasons that a developer would want to have his or her products listed. One of the most compelling reasons is that one gets the distribution and update infrastructure for free. If having a reliable mechanism for updates kills sites like Mac Update it will be because they are no longer needed.
     
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    MattInOz

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    The AppStore is only going to work for App's I decided to buy.
    What about all those Apps I tried but found not quite there yet, at least for me?

    Or finding demo's of similar products as the first one I found wasn't fully what I wanted. Even if I finally go and buy via the AppStore there is still a lot of room for those sites to adapt instead of die.
     
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    I don't think it'll be an all-or-nothing kill thing. A few smaller websites that just have basic apps might close down. Other websites, like Macupdate, might see less traffic. Other web sites that sell pro applications, like Adobe, might be about the same.
     
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    roadbloc

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    Who cares about MacUpdate, it's this badboy that's gonna go. :(
     

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    Mal

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    Ooh, hadn't thought about that, but yeah, would love to see that replaced with a Mac App Store link instead, or go away completely.

    jW
     
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    Ive never even used that link before today haha.
     
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    mrsir2009

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    True, a tons of the developers from sites like that might not even bother moving all or any of their apps to the app store.
     
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    I think what he meant by "normal" users aren't people like you, but people like my parents. People who never used computers for anything but work, and perhaps a bit of photo editing. Those people wouldn't think of stuff like Secrets or Tinker Tool to be cool, they just wouldn't see any need for them, let alone understand them…
     
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    arnop

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    Absolutely ! For my part, I've never used MacUpdate, so...
     
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    sites like macupdates is good u know, we can download many "free" things from there.
    even we can download Mac OSX 10.6.x updater file.

    i hope that sites still running while mac app store is released
     

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