Lol, I get that you're cracking wise.. but, honestly for YEARS iTunes ran at "break-even". They were VERY transparent about why they would do that, btw. It was to create an ecosystem that worked seamlessly enough ONLY with their own branded hardware to lock in users and encourage them to continue using more and more Apple products and services (the halo effect..). It is only over the last few years that economy of scale has turned iTunes into a "for profit" venture.. & the very latest data I've seen still pegs it at about $2.2 billion per year, so just over $500 million per quarter.. scarcely significant in light of their near $44 billion in revenue last quarter, wouldn't you agree?
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Lol, I get that you're cracking wise.. but, honestly for YEARS iTunes ran at "break-even". They were VERY transparent about why they would do that, btw. It was to create an ecosystem that worked seamlessly enough ONLY with their own branded hardware to lock in users and encourage them to continue using more and more Apple products and services (the halo effect..). It is only over the last few years that economy of scale has turned iTunes into a "for profit" venture.. & the very latest data I've seen still pegs it at about $2.2 billion per year, so just over $500 million per quarter.. scarcely significant in light of their near $44 billion in revenue last quarter, wouldn't you agree?
No, you've posted all OS X together against Windows 8. It's not the same. If you go for all OS X, you must add up all versions of windows as well.
Yes. Best OS I can use for my work. I have a three screen setup at work, and probably one of the best interfaces I can use.
Decades ahead of XP, years ahead of Win7. Haven't used Metro though. No point. No Expose, but very polished otherwise.
Who are you to say what can be compared? I didn't make up the claim. Multiple posters in this thread have said that more people use windows 8 than OS X. I'm looking for evidence as to whether or not its true.
As a previous employee of a major retail chain that sold PCs, I know these things are not selling very well. And you are right, they're stocking more of them but only because its a relatively new category. And most of them are just collecting dust in the top shelf. Also, consider that PC shipment/sales was in decline last year. And some brick and mortar stores are bleeding money because of poor sales, forcing them to close some stores across the nation. Just take a look at Staples. Their plan for "growth" was really just to close stores and pull a "Walmart" and "Amazon" trying to sell virtually any product in every category in-store and online.
" PC industry efforts to offer touch capabilities and ultraslim systems have been hampered by traditional barriers of price and component supply, as well as a weak reception for Windows 8. The PC industry is struggling to identify innovations that differentiate PCs from other products and inspire consumers to buy, and instead is meeting significant resistance to changes perceived as cumbersome or costly."
"While some consumers appreciate the new form factors and touch capabilities of Windows 8, the radical changes to the UI, removal of the familiar Start button, and the costs associated with touch have made PCs a less attractive alternative to dedicated tablets and other competitive devices."
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24065413
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It's a WIN-WIN for Apple, 30% cut in AppStore and a presence in the Windows Store->more iTunes users (although not a significant bunch)->revenue from iTunes Store.
Apple is just being Apple.
From what I hear, the earth is flat, heavier objects fall faster than light objects, and the moon is made of green cheese.
Don't believe everytrhing you hear.
Windows 8 isn't that bad. I installed it via bootcamp and I like it a lot.
The integration of tablet environment with desktop is pretty impressive.
But bandwagoners keep saying it is crap. Half of the people I know saying it is bad haven't even used it before.
I think it's a bad move on Apple's part. On one hand you could easily ask the quest of why should Apple help Microsoft, but on the other hand you can see it actually hurts Apple if Windows users have no way to transfer their music and data to their iDevices.
If Microsoft was to go all "Modern UI" in the next few years what choice would Apple have than either to support the OS or snub a huge device base?
If Microsoft was to go all "Modern UI" in the next few years what choice would Apple have than either to support the OS or snub a huge device base?
Except windows 8 users can still use iTunes.
If that happened (as unlikely as it is) Apple could revisit their decision. Not a big deal.
I'm pretty sure we can all agree that iTunes is crap.
Windows or Mac, it just falls short.
On Windows it's really bloated and that is not part of the forward thinking associated with the METRO style Apps in Windows 8
Windows or Mac, it just falls short.
On Windows it's really bloated and that is not part of the forward thinking associated with the METRO style Apps in Windows 8
This rubs me the wrong way. Got an iphone 5 a while back and love it. I also love windows 8. Was meh with it at first but once I used it for a bit I was hooked. 8.1 is all the sweeter. If it comes down to it my next phone will be wp8. I want the itunes tile.
Yes, they do. Surface RT and Surface Pro. and many 3rd parties do as well.
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Couldn't agree more. And Apple is indeed shooting themselves in the foot. Customers will simply look for alternatives if Apple fails to support their customers.
How are they not supporting their customers? iTunes will still run in the desktop mode on Windows 8 proper machines. It just won't run on a competing Windows RT tablet.
A Best Buy Asus G Series is usually a special variant of the other models with a lower resolution panel and a specialty GPU. (128 vs.192-bit or DDR3 vs. GDDR5)
That is a web browser. A relatively simple UI(s). I was just pointing out that there two versions of Adobe Reader. I never said that it was impossible to have one app and two UIs depending on device. But it is impossible to rid this forum of ignorant idiots.
I do. But I jump right to desktop mode and never look at the Start menu again, which obviously isn't how Microsoft wants me to use it.
I also do not desire a Metro version of iTunes.
Then again, I also refuse to upgrade to iTunes 11, so maybe there's something "wrong" with me.
It's funny that some people try to justify that Win 8 isn't that bad on an Apple fan site. Seriously, one doesn't really expect an objective answer on the qualities/shortcomings of a competing product in here?
It IS a Win8 sale, basically because most at computer stores the PC's arrive with Win8 already pre-installed. The license is often glued to the case of the PC. In fact, just because of this many stores refuse to remove the Windows copy when asked.
A friend of mine had such a situation. The local store manager got angry, just because my friend insisted that the store should deduct the price of the Windows license since wouldn't use it anyway. He wanted to build a new Linux based server, so why pay for software he never will use?
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iTunes needs a diet. Apple should remove all the iOS app garbage from it. That belongs in the App-store application. iTunes is for music and no other crap.
And if Apple really wants add new stuff... add a serious equivalent of VolumeLogic. That's more important than crappy Windows tiles.
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Apple does a lousy job supporting software for their own platform, they care even less about Windows. Although it would be nice if they played nice with others.
Considering Macs only make up 10% of the PC market from a purely financial and statistical perspective I would bet they get a much larger percentage of iTunes sales from Windows users than Mac users.
Apple does a lousy job supporting software for their own platform, they care even less about Windows. Although it would be nice if they played nice with others.
Considering Macs only make up 10% of the PC market from a purely financial and statistical perspective I would bet they get a much larger percentage of iTunes sales from Windows users than Mac users.
Aging population and all. Seriously WWDC ticket sales show enough still want to develop on OS X and iOS. Plus the fact that the majority of users are not tech nerds. They appreciate the low learning curve OS X and iOS have.
Apple have no want to sell high volume at razor thin margins. Their lower sales but way higher margins keeps Apple at the profit leader in the desktop+notebook market. Why sell tons of a product when you can sell way less but make more profit.
I'm using StartIsBack, and it's made Win8 usable. Can't say I prefer it to Win7, but it is fast and stable.
Microsoft has not even made a metro version of Office. Until Windows 8 gains significant market share (and it will in time), a metro version of iTunes is the least of Apple's worries.
Out of curiosity, what exactly have they taken away for you? I haven't noticed anything missing from the desktop interface other than the Start Menu (which is obviously replaced with the Start Screen).
I can understand if the issue is due to workflow as Windows 8 changes a lot of things, but I haven't noticed a reduction of features. If anything, I find the desktop interface now more focused for pro users with its emphasis on keyboard shortcuts and the added stuff such as the improved task manager.
Or am I totally missing your point here?
Apps that used to launch automatically and run services would only do so once you load up the Start Menu screen, which slows things down quite drastically (because we deal with lots of large files and our systems have an auto start-up system, by the time you get to your system it's ready to go). Lots of pro software isn't built to support that panel view. It's basically useless - there's no need in upgrading from 7 in a work environment.