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AidenShaw

macrumors P6
Feb 8, 2003
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The Peninsula
Nobody is going to accidentally type a corporate secret into their address bar or the search box on Google.

Oh, I disagree.

What if I'm working on a patent proposal? It could be quite easy to deduce a lot about my patent based on my searches for prior art or overlapping patents.

Or "there are a lot of searches from Apple about Lala and other cloud music providers -- including lots for Lala financials, patents and other core issues that merger&acquisitions folks care about".

Again, I just hope that Google has a strong ethics program, and they wouldn't consider looking at search requests from a competitor.
 

cmaier

Suspended
Jul 25, 2007
25,405
33,471
California
Oh, I disagree.

What if I'm working on a patent proposal? It could be quite easy to deduce a lot about my patent based on my searches for prior art or overlapping patents.

Patent applications aren't secret (unless requested) and patents are never secret. I'm just sayin'.
 

Goona

macrumors 68020
Mar 11, 2009
2,268
0
Perhaps you've also noticed that the Droid and iPhone look similar from a distance, yet neither look anything like a G1, Blackberry, or Pre?

The screen is far superior. The UI is the best I've seen outside of the iPhone, and is very comparable. Yes, the physical keyboard sucks, however the predictive virtual keyboard is superior to the iPhone's.

But yes, the Droid is not the iPhone killer. AT&T is. The more people experience issues with their service and potential "policies" for limiting bandwidth, the more they will seek out alternatives.

Seeing as how Apple is on track to sell 10 million iphones this quarter, it seems they don't mind if y'all go out and seek an alternative.
 

Terminal.app

macrumors 6502
Sep 29, 2009
266
0
Seeing as how Apple is on track to sell 10 million iphones this quarter, it seems they don't mind if y'all go out and seek an alternative.

I wouldn't mind if they kept up with the competition myself. I'd like a 1 GHz processor in my iPod touch! :eek:
 

polaris20

macrumors 68020
Jul 13, 2008
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767
Seeing as how Apple is on track to sell 10 million iphones this quarter, it seems they don't mind if y'all go out and seek an alternative.

I think people will, the worse AT&T gets and the closer they get to implementing their ridiculous caps.

I never said the iPhone isn't an outstanding phone. It is. It's just that it's not so good that I'd ever go back to AT&T. And I'm not alone.

The better Android gets as a platform, the less the differences between the iPhone and Android matter, especially when factoring in the provider.

The Droid is so good that it's worth sticking with Verizon and having a phone that's 90% as good as the iPhone but that never experiences dropped calls, has more 3G areas, etc.
 

DMann

macrumors 601
Jan 13, 2002
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Warning: Asking Google where to find something may result in Google knowing what you're looking for. :D

I'm sorry Aiden, I normally agree with much of your commentary but this post just makes you look retarded. Yeah, Google suggest works as you type. But it has nothing to do with Chrome logging your keystrokes while you have it open or whatever tinfoil hat theory you're trying to suggest with this. Because this feature works in Internet Explorer, and Firefox too.

It's only reading what you type in the search box. So, why is this a problem? Do you often type things into the Google search box that you don't intend to search for and don't want Google to know? Are you one of these AOL idiots?

It's quarter to five in the morning here and I'm trying hard not to laugh out loud at you.

in a paranoid tone: "They're all Commies, I tell you , Communist Red bastards - they'll collect your search fields for porn sites info, and use it to conquer the world...."
 

Goona

macrumors 68020
Mar 11, 2009
2,268
0
I think people will, the worse AT&T gets and the closer they get to implementing their ridiculous caps.

I never said the iPhone isn't an outstanding phone. It is. It's just that it's not so good that I'd ever go back to AT&T. And I'm not alone.

The better Android gets as a platform, the less the differences between the iPhone and Android matter, especially when factoring in the provider.

The Droid is so good that it's worth sticking with Verizon and having a phone that's 90% as good as the iPhone but that never experiences dropped calls, has more 3G areas, etc.

- Not every iphone user is on At&T.
- Not everyone likes Verizon like everybody here wants us to believe.
- The iphone keeps selling more and more meaning it's still in demand in the US on one carrier.
 

megadon

macrumors 6502
Dec 5, 2008
350
9
Fight back - set your search engine to Yahoo!. Or Bing. Or Ask. Or anything but Google.

Did you know that Chrome sends every keystroke that you type into the search bar to the Googleplex? How do you think that it comes up with those suggestions - it's watching everything that you type.

Some Apple fans love to use the phrase "convicted monopolist" right before they type "Microsoft" - yet many of the same people are helping to build the Google monopoly. Didn't we learn anything from the Microsoft years?

It must suck to be as paranoid as you are, especially when your country has the "patriot act"

you got bigger things to worry about than google knowing which site you jack off to.
 

jlc1978

macrumors 603
Aug 14, 2009
5,509
4,288
It would be a watershed for Google. Paying for ads to try to sell this phone instead of receiving money for ads. And given that HTC makes the handset, how much of the revenue would go Google? And for what? Android is Open Source, so it must be for Google Apps & Services.

Google could very well advertise the phone on Google without impacting other advertising revenue.

As for making money, Google could contract out the manufacturing and sell the phone and get all the revenue; depending on the pricing they may even make a profit.

Alternatively, open source does not mean you can't sell the software. Phone companies may be willing to pay Google to develop and maintain the software; or even add proprietary features. As long as Google doesn't add other developer's code (or licenses it) they could even maintain an open source and non-open source customized versions of Android OS.
 

cumanzor

macrumors 6502
May 14, 2009
432
1
Oh, I disagree.

What if I'm working on a patent proposal? It could be quite easy to deduce a lot about my patent based on my searches for prior art or overlapping patents.

Or "there are a lot of searches from Apple about Lala and other cloud music providers -- including lots for Lala financials, patents and other core issues that merger&acquisitions folks care about".

Again, I just hope that Google has a strong ethics program, and they wouldn't consider looking at search requests from a competitor.

Seriously man, I usually agree with you on everything, but this is just paranoia.

Do you really think Google is actively involved in corporate spying? Dig, and all you will find is a an automated system showing you some results, or maybe many many monkeys doing a lot of typing. Either way, they won't ever trace information back to you.

Please!
 

polaris20

macrumors 68020
Jul 13, 2008
2,493
767
- Not every iphone user is on At&T.

No, but all of the US is, and the US is a big market for the iPhone.

Not everyone likes Verizon like everybody here wants us to believe.

Yet AT&T and Verizon are in opposite ends of the customer satisfaction spectrum.

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/...sumer-reports-best-cell-phone-service-survey/

- The iphone keeps selling more and more meaning it's still in demand in the US on one carrier.

It sure is in demand, it's a great phone. But you're fooling yourself if you think many people wouldn't jump the AT&T ship as soon as they're given the chance.
 

nilk

macrumors 6502a
Oct 18, 2007
691
236
As a developer, I've been pretty excited about Android, but I've been waiting for a phone worth getting. Apple has made the iPhone something I don't care to develop for. I understand that there are profits to be made through Apple's App Store, but I'm more interested in creating useful apps than profits and something open like Android (or Nokia's N900) is more likely to allow me to do that.

My next phone purchase will likely be an unlocked Android phone that supports AT&T's 3G. Then I can swap sim cards between it and my iPhone 3G and let the best phone win. This Google-branded phone could be the phone I purchase.

I haven't had any problems with AT&T. Coverage is fine in Tampa, and I travel occasionally without problems. My gf is on T-Mobile (currently with a iPhone 2G) and I've had better coverage. T-Mobile is cheaper, though, she has an unlimited plan that is ridiculously cheap.
 

cmaier

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Jul 25, 2007
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California
As a developer, I've been pretty excited about Android, but I've been waiting for a phone worth getting. Apple has made the iPhone something I don't care to develop for. I understand that there are profits to be made through Apple's App Store, but I'm more interested in creating useful apps than profits and something open like Android (or Nokia's N900) is more likely to allow me to do that.

My next phone purchase will likely be an unlocked Android phone that supports AT&T's 3G. Then I can swap sim cards between it and my iPhone 3G and let the best phone win. This Google-branded phone could be the phone I purchase.

I haven't had any problems with AT&T. Coverage is fine in Tampa, and I travel occasionally without problems. My gf is on T-Mobile (currently with a iPhone 2G) and I've had better coverage. T-Mobile is cheaper, though, she has an unlimited plan that is ridiculously cheap.

I agree - as a developer I can't ignore the potential of Android, and this may be the first Android phone worth playing with.
 
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