This. I was really happy that the two sizes were finally the same in specs. I never bought into the whole "flagship" thing. I wanted the same features in a smaller package. Thought we finally had that, but not quite. Still, I've played with the retina mini in store twice and I don't think the gamut will prevent me from buying. Maybe it helps that I never look at the Air because that screen size has never interested me.
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Retina iPad Mini's Display Criticized Over Poor Color Gamut and Accuracy
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This. I was really happy that the two sizes were finally the same in specs. I never bought into the whole "flagship" thing. I wanted the same features in a smaller package. Thought we finally had that, but not quite. Still, I've played with the retina mini in store twice and I don't think the gamut will prevent me from buying. Maybe it helps that I never look at the Air because that screen size has never interested me.
I would have preferred non-retina with A7 and dedicated the additional battery to run-time. I'm still getting the retina mini due to the amazing size and power. I doubt seriously that I will see any screen issues to my eye. They look great in the apple store.
Stupid stupid apple, there was no need for this dense a screen on the already dense screen iPad mini other than to appease the people who think they can see a difference (or are holding the iPad mini to close to their faces).
i would rather have had the same iPad mini screen with a MUCH better battery life and the new 64bit GPU than a crappy screen with issues at a higher resolution that i wont notice because i hold my iPad mini at a sensible distance from my face during use. Maybe saving Retina for the next model when they could do it properly ?
Retina iPad mini = Gold plated digital cables IMO, utterly useless and offers no real world difference, but people will SWEAR they can see/hear a difference after forking out for them.
i would rather have had the same iPad mini screen with a MUCH better battery life and the new 64bit GPU than a crappy screen with issues at a higher resolution that i wont notice because i hold my iPad mini at a sensible distance from my face during use. Maybe saving Retina for the next model when they could do it properly ?
Retina iPad mini = Gold plated digital cables IMO, utterly useless and offers no real world difference, but people will SWEAR they can see/hear a difference after forking out for them.
That's actually a really good question. To me, it's a screen I'm going to be staring at all day long and if I'm going to spend $600+ on a tablet, I better be happy with it. I certainly wasn't with the original Mini's screen, so I didn't buy one. I must say, the resolution on the new Mini is amazing - that part is definitely solid. But you can't just fix one problem and still have another glaring one. To me, personally, it's not just "a little inferior;" it's painfully bad. But I realize we all have different tolerances and priorities. I don't think I will be keeping mine... I thought maybe I just got a lemon so I was going to try exchanging it first, but if it's this widespread then it's probably not going to get much better. Mine has pretty severe image retention too. I may just wait yet another year before I get into this whole tablet thing...
I messed with one at the apple store and couldn't notice anything wrong. I guess I'm the idiot......
The average consumer wouldn't really care because they wouldn't notice.
Not to let Apple off the hook, other devices have clearly an advantage over the Mini.
Still, the Mini is a very nice device.
Clearly, if colour accuracy is a must, then the Mini isn't for you, get the Air or some other tablet.
Not to let Apple off the hook, other devices have clearly an advantage over the Mini.
Still, the Mini is a very nice device.
Clearly, if colour accuracy is a must, then the Mini isn't for you, get the Air or some other tablet.
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I agree with you there. Every time they shrink a device, and make it "thinner" I think that... would be awesome if they kept a version with the same old thickness, but a bigger better battery.
This is perhaps the best comment I have ever read on any forum/article. It's darkly comical and also beautifully sums up how much us geeks overplay things like this.
I agree it's sad to see another slip in quality from Apple, especially as they routinely state that that is paramount to their ethos, but ultimately it's still a great product.
what is Color Gamut
A color gamut is roughly speaking the color span of a device. The bigger the gamut, the purer the colors. The most pure colors are generated with lasers. Everything else is just a more or less good mixture of an illumination with absorption. And it looks like the screen of the new iPad Mini Retina achieves a far smaller gamut than what is expected nowadays.
Is this a problem? Well, as long as you are not buying clothes on the web, you must not really care. EDIT: Though I have to say this is really a disappointing small gamut.
PS: I am positively surprised that they are showing YUV and not Yxy. Good!
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I love my retina mini. It's a huge upgrade over the original and I couldn't give a crap about gamut or the fact it's not as vibrant as the Air or other devices. For me, the fact that I can read on it and have super-sharp text and images is all I need to justify the upgrade.
Unless you're a professional that needs the color gamut to be better for your photo/video business, is this really a huge deal breaker? Besides, if you're a professional and you're using a 1st generation iPad Mini w/retina to do this work, you probably should look up the definition of professional.
Unless you're a professional that needs the color gamut to be better for your photo/video business, is this really a huge deal breaker? Besides, if you're a professional and you're using a 1st generation iPad Mini w/retina to do this work, you probably should look up the definition of professional.
Can you really not see a marked difference, even at modest viewing distances? I'm with you on the Monster Cable thing, but retina vs. non-retina is night vs. day to me. It's astonishingly better.
I knock Apple often, but color accuracy on a tablet is definitely not one of those things I will knock them for. For all intensive purposes the Mini is a toy that is used for email, internet, and streaming music/video.
There is always room for improvement, but (as a videophile myself with an understanding of color accruacy on high end home theater projector setups) I have no problems with the Mini from a color perspective and I typically notice these things.
I can guarantee most of you complaining about the new retina Mini screen that you check your main television first. It is probably setup much, much worse from a color and color temperature perspective. if your tv's were setup properly, you would probably change them back to the way they were in the first place
There is always room for improvement, but (as a videophile myself with an understanding of color accruacy on high end home theater projector setups) I have no problems with the Mini from a color perspective and I typically notice these things.
I can guarantee most of you complaining about the new retina Mini screen that you check your main television first. It is probably setup much, much worse from a color and color temperature perspective. if your tv's were setup properly, you would probably change them back to the way they were in the first place
It is a little washed out relatively, but a minor quibble when you take what the rMini is as a whole. Love mine!
Sadly, most who complain about the colors now, only do so because it was pointed out to them. Like looking for yellow tint on screens. Most would never even spend the time pulling up a fully white screen to check for yellow tint unless they read something here and decided to look for it.
I can pretty much tell you that none of my electronics at my house are without faults. Some caused by me (oops), some by the manufacturer, some are physical limitations that the physical world can not over come (yet).
Get what makes you happy. Frankly for me it will be an rMini. It's faster than the original, higher resolution, with barely any additional weight and thickness (virtually imperceptible). What I would say is the biggest draw back is actually the price. $350 would have been a nicer target. Could Apple have given us the A6 instead and dropped it $50? I would have been happy with that.
I can pretty much tell you that none of my electronics at my house are without faults. Some caused by me (oops), some by the manufacturer, some are physical limitations that the physical world can not over come (yet).
Get what makes you happy. Frankly for me it will be an rMini. It's faster than the original, higher resolution, with barely any additional weight and thickness (virtually imperceptible). What I would say is the biggest draw back is actually the price. $350 would have been a nicer target. Could Apple have given us the A6 instead and dropped it $50? I would have been happy with that.
I am so glad they found at least something to criticize the new iPad Mini.
I will wait for the next class-action lawsuit against Apple for ChromaPergaMutatizationNOT-gate of iPad Minis.
BTW, the next GREAT thing with iPads will be <<WIDESCREEN>>
Getting ready to ditch my entire iPad collection.
I will wait for the next class-action lawsuit against Apple for ChromaPergaMutatizationNOT-gate of iPad Minis.
BTW, the next GREAT thing with iPads will be <<WIDESCREEN>>
Getting ready to ditch my entire iPad collection.
Stupid stupid apple, there was no need for this dense a screen on the already dense screen iPad mini other than to appease the people who think they can see a difference (or are holding the iPad mini to close to their faces).
i would rather have had the same iPad mini screen with a MUCH better battery life and the new 64bit GPU than a crappy screen with issues at a higher resolution that i wont notice because i hold my iPad mini at a sensible distance from my face during use. Maybe saving Retina for the next model when they could do it properly ?
Retina iPad mini = Gold plated digital cables IMO, utterly useless and offers no real world difference, but people will SWEAR they can see/hear a difference after forking out for them.
Huh? The difference between the retina and non-retina mini display is very noticeable. Perhaps you should get your eyes checked.
No. It is not as vibrant, which is what the main complaints are. Those devices use different technology.
Accept that no one is getting an android or using an android. They are buying the closer to 8" iPad mini.
this was intentionally done by apple I don't know why but the rMinis are shipping with 3 different display brand and all are showing poor color reproduction
good thing is a lot of people don't give a C" about color accuracy and they enjoy the device but a lot of people who got the Air already is returning the rMini once they compare both side by side
good thing is a lot of people don't give a C" about color accuracy and they enjoy the device but a lot of people who got the Air already is returning the rMini once they compare both side by side
I'm in the same category. I thought the display was stunning and wicked fast.
All this was suggested. If this color gamut thing wasn't presented as a topic no one would be calling Apple out on it.
I have the original iPad mini and watching videos on it is amazing. So after this so called brouhaha about the retina mini's supposed resolution flaw am I suppose to change my mind? Hell no!
Stay out my head!
I'll go to the Apple store today to see what all the bs is about. I'm sure ti ain't nothing but losers trying to hurt mini sales.
Hey Bezos, get lost!!!!
I have the original iPad mini and watching videos on it is amazing. So after this so called brouhaha about the retina mini's supposed resolution flaw am I suppose to change my mind? Hell no!
Stay out my head!
I'll go to the Apple store today to see what all the bs is about. I'm sure ti ain't nothing but losers trying to hurt mini sales.
Hey Bezos, get lost!!!!