As of last year, 77% of this country is white. That means it is in our nature to be wary of outsiders and blame them for our ills. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
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Scalpers are now "scalping" INSIDE the apple store (NYC)
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As of last year, 77% of this country is white. That means it is in our nature to be wary of outsiders and blame them for our ills. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
Speak for yourself. Not all white people see non white people as "outsiders" or blame them for anything. What a load of crap generalization.
The Indians were here 1st - everyone else is an immigrant.
It's not? Please explain?
Apple can price however they'd like. They could price at $1500 but they choose not to. If they would sell, they sure as heck would though.
There are laws in place to prevent abuse, and what these ELDERLY CHINESE people are doing is not in violation of any law.
You may not like it, but it's a shining example of all that is wonderful about a free market (or if you must put a qualifier on it (since you seem to want to) a "mostly all-in" capitalist society).
If you DON'T want to pay the "scalpers", DON'T. If no one does, they don't scalp. See how that works? Someone is paying the price, which means it has that value to someone, which means they are providing a service to that person in return for that price.
If no one was, they would quickly go away.
Just because it makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong. They are using the system to their advantage. If you REALLY care about it, contact your congressman and change the law.
Thank god USA is not a "total capitalist" country, take a look at Hong Kong for example.
Students not withstanding, you could drop dead on the street and everyone will just walk on by. Majority of Hong Kong residents are not protesting with the students because they are "too busy" making money and thinking about themselves. Big cities in China are probably worse, but with a strange mix of communism.
I'm not speaking for all white people. I'm just calling a spade a spade. If that were not true, you wouldn't see dozens upon dozens of threads railing against the asian/indian/middle eastern scalpers.
Personally, I don't care. Whites are just about already a minority in Chicago, so I've been long used to seeing all kinds of people scalping or hustling. In other parts of the country, probably not so much.
Yeah, it really is getting ridiculous. This country is becoming so sissified. It weirds me out when people say they don't see color. Like, what is the person, non-transparent?
Its even worse than that, we're not supposed to see "American" either, a person who sneaks into the country illegally is supposed to be treated equally as those who have waited in line for years to get in legally.
They're capitalists?
I admire their spunky attitudes. If Apple sold them those phones, they have every right to sell them again.
I generally don't care for scalpers, but at least these will show their faces instead of just hitting eBay.
Agreed that they have the right to resell them. However, they shouldn't be doing it in an Apple store.
This is exactly as planned, their time is worthless and have nothing better to do. Lining up for 6 hours can yield 4 phones, 4 x $50 (assuming no bites at $80) = $200 a day.
Do this for 2 weeks = $2,800 TAX FREE
so even at $25 over they make $1,400 for 2 weeks. They probably have another 2-3 weeks before supply catches up to demand
If this is an issue, Apple will throw them out, no?
Should they sell them outside the Apple store? On the sidewalk? Around the corner? Where?
If the Apple store has a very long line and/or no stock of the phone that someone wants and a person is standing there with the phone in an unopened box, why should the person not buy the phone if they want to buy it?
I wouldn't buy from a scalper, but I think that until Apple tosses them out, it's completely their right to sell whatever they want.
Yea, but I bet they thought they'd get $3-500.00 per phone. Also, if they loose or one "shows up missing", they are screwed.
Ha!
I agree with you. The local electronics store can also go into the Apple Store and sell Samsung phones and media devices and tvs. Actually you can do pretty much what you want until you can't anymore.
Yup. Selling electronic goods is legal in the US until the proprietor of the business where you're selling them tells you to quit and/or leave.
Im not illegal so I wouldnt know....quit being naive and politcally correct there illegal scalpers face it.
Me neither. I don't think not assuming they are illegal is naive. I think assuming someone of a certain nationality is an illegal simply for reselling iphones is ridiculous. Plenty of people buying and selling in this country - and they aren't all illegal - in fact most of them aren't.
And this country isn't enforcing it's own immigration laws. Have a problem with that? Take it up with your elected officials who are letting it happen & greeting them with big screen TVs in five star resorts most people couldn't afford with a menu catered to their demands while our poor are starving in the streets.
What exactly did these scalpers produce that is of value to the economy? They did not add anything to make the iPhone better. They did not deliver it to an area of America where iPhones are in short supply.
This is actually related to a touchy debate I've had with some anarchist capitalists outside of MacRumors. They believe that illegal aliens should have the right to work in America, and that business should be able to hire anyone willing to work regardless of legal status. Complete free movement of capital and labor.
Of course, they don't care when illegals use the social services and sap taxpayer dollars. Their business earned big profits and screw everyone else. The only reason most illegals come here is because people hire them. I concede that some are refugees fleeing gang violence.
I note the sarcasm... I think we both know how much income tax is likely to be paid on scalping profits.
When you guys say illegal immigrants and INS, the elderly Chinese women don't care because most of them are legal. It's the Mexicans who are afraid.
I actually will agree with this. Ignoring the in-store scalpers will show them the futility of their strategy.
As iPhone 6 and 6 plus supplies rise in the next few weeks, this will all be a non-issue until next year
patience is the ally of the consumer and the doom of the scalper.your looking to far into this bud....95% of them are illegal its a fact face it. I dont care about being politically correct thats for the tree hugging democratic hippies