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Sector 5 from Element Case order thread.
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Sorry but I would not ever entertain the notion of buying a aluminum bumper case with plastic corners for $150.00 and up regardless of how good it looks!
well since ALL android phones are made out of the same kind of plastic, I guess your opinion isn't in the general consensus whatsoever. But im sure you already know that!
Correction @$#% Plastic
whatever you say bud
the plastic isnt terrible but clearly its not anything special. this is not a case designed for protection. If you drop your phone even from pocket height I would not expect the case or its "polycarbonate" corners to survive.
well since ALL android phones are made out of the same kind of plastic, I guess your opinion isn't in the general consensus whatsoever. But im sure you already know that!
The point was that for spending a $199.00 on a Black Ops Case I would like to think that plastic should not be an acceptable part of the integral build and construction.
You would think so wouldn't you?
well since ALL android phones are made out of the same kind of plastic, I guess your opinion isn't in the general consensus whatsoever. But im sure you already know that!
not to mention
although made out of plastic...
ughh i'm pretty sure you can buy a Complete android phone for $199
lol
wow talk about assumptions.
do you think they just fall apart or explode or something? lol
ive dropped my sector 5 plenty of times, and the corners take the brunt force 75% of the time. mines still are fantastically in tact, and with little scratches.
yeah now that I think about it every time my sector 5 hits the ground a starving child is teleported a happy meal
agree to disagree
I just want better build quality for a case $100 and above
hopefully element keeps improving upon their materials and design
im not arguing with you, so theres nothing to agree to disagree about. im just saying that the plastic corners can "survive" a drop easily and all the time
Does this mean you don't like the case?????
I get a case to protect against incidental nicks and bangs. I don't drop my phone or throw it. If that happens I'm pretty sure the case will work well enough without making the phone look like a flat hand grenade. I like the design about as much as the phone in appearance. I obviously am willing to pay for the design talent that conceived it.
Was the term "bud" meant to be berating? It felt like it.
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What material would you use that doesn't block the signal?
Sounds like it could deflect bullets. I'm definitely up for that. If I'm threatened I could just hold up my phone.
Yes, that too! Seriously though, for the cost and the quality this case is supposed to taught a Kevlar Composite would be in order and provide the strength needed and prevent the reception issue. That is unless you think that $200.00 for 11oz of aluminum and some cheap plastic corners are adequate on a case that you just spent that kind of money on
Yes, that too! Seriously though, for the cost and the quality this case is supposed to taught a Kevlar Composite would be in order and provide the strength needed and prevent the reception issue. That is unless you think that $200.00 for 11oz of aluminum and some cheap plastic corners are adequate on a case that you just spent that kind of money on
I agree the price is to high by far. The materials aren't the only thing you pay for. Design and creativity have value. a thousand dollar painting is made of wood and canvass and an ounce of paint. You will probably say that the design isn't worth anywhere near two hundred and I would agree, but I have a little extra money and It pleases me to have this case. There are obviously others who feel the same.
Well you obviously have not looked back at my original post where I made direct reference to my intimate understanding of CNC Machinery due to the fact that I was a wood worker for almost 18 years and 1 out of maybe a couple of hundred in the entire country that specialized in hand reproduced 18th & 19th Century Period Furniture. So believe me when I tell you, I do understand the work involved and I definitely know about precision and high quality workmanship and the amount of time that it takes to produce such.
As a matter of fact, here is the very post I am referring too. Think I don't know about quality? Take a look at my work that is accurate within 0.005. of an inch which I might ad was done exclusively by hand with the tools that you see in my hanging Tool Cabinet
Take a look and eat you words there my man>> https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/16933555/
My whole point is that ELEMENT is set up as a production shop with CNC equipment , etc , etc. Their prices could and should be lower (marginally) and for claiming to be so high end than why would you use that cheap sh&&t plastic on the corners of such High Dollar work?>>>>>>>>>>>>WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
Well you obviously have not looked back at my original post where I made direct reference to my intimate understanding of CNC Machinery due to the fact that I was a wood worker for almost 18 years and 1 out of maybe a couple of hundred in the entire country that specialized in hand reproduced 18th & 19th Century Period Furniture. So believe me when I tell you, I do understand the work involved and I definitely know about precision and high quality workmanship and the amount of time that it takes to produce such.
As a matter of fact, here is the very post I am referring too. Think I don't know about quality? Take a look at my work that is accurate within 0.005. of an inch which I might ad was done exclusively by hand with the tools that you see in my hanging Tool Cabinet
Take a look and eat you words there my man>> https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/16933555/
My whole point is that ELEMENT is set up as a production shop with CNC equipment , etc , etc. Their prices could and should be lower (marginally) and for claiming to be so high end than why would you use that cheap sh&&t plastic on the corners of such High Dollar work?>>>>>>>>>>>>WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
I'm fine with the polycarbonate. I'd prefer G10 or a composite on the black cases, but they're using polycarbonate as a design element for its visual transparency. And the case is really, as I've said before, more of a design statement than hardcore protection.
Yes, they're expensive. They are also, comparatively, a low volume luxury positioned product.
I sincerely doubt Element is set up as an actual full production CNC shop. They're probably more of a design house that outsources production to a facility that specializes in these things.
In the world of iPhone case manufacture, they are truly small fries. You don't see their product in retailers, at the apple store, etc. They don't have the economy of scale of inCase or Belkin. They're probably even smaller the guys in China faking them.
It's a medium production luxury item. It's never going to make sense as a purchase to you from a materials or practicality standpoint.
It's like designer jewelry for your phone.. You can't justify a ring from a designer based on the spot silver price. You can rage all you want about how little silver is in it, and how you could get a better ring at Walmart that has stronger metal and is more durable, or how you could buy a fake ring from china, but that's not the point.
You buy something like this because you like the design and you're able and willing to pay for it. Not because you need it or because your phone needs the protection.
Can you get 99% of the look and function with a $30 replica? Yeah. Why pay nearly 5 times that for the real thing? Because that's what it costs for the real thing and for enough people its worth it. If you don't get it, it's like raging on about people who buy designer purses or watches. I can buy a replica watch with the same freaking internal Swiss movement as an original for a quarter or less of the price. Would I be seen dead with it?
Real bad support
WITHOUT CONFIRMING THE FACT YOU ARE WRITING I HAVE A FAKE PRODUCT? HM?
You sent me this garbage:
Barna, you need to read the many, many responses to your support ticket more carefully.
YOU HAVE PURCHASED A COUNTERFEIT FAKE CASE OFF OF EBAY.
We're sorry that you fell prey to someone's scam to sell you a fake product as genuine, but that is why we recommend only shopping on our website or through our authorized retailer network. We do not sell the pieces that you're looking for separately and they most likely will not fit since you do not have an authentic case.
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Barna Bernard Fekete
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Customer Service at Element,
You refuse to supply me with a plastic connector (which broke)
[Ticket#308-8955] Broken clear polymer bridge on Sector 5.
As a manufacturer you need to acknowledge that parts do break. You guys need to step up to the plate and carry and make available part to replace broken pieces to your product. I will contact BBB, State attorney and many other consumer protection agencies to prove my point.
Why don't you just say send this up here, we take look, if it is ours, we replace that 50 cent part for $20, I would be happy and not spread the news about horrible after sale support of Element. That is all to it. Nothing travels faster that bad news, remember that! Let me send it up to you and charge me for the replacement. That is all to it!
You should learn from Ray-Ban:
"As a courtesy to our valued Ray-Ban USA customers, we provide repair service for any product not covered or past our warranty period. A repair charge will be assessed depending upon the style of your returned product. We will notify you of any charges and request payment in advance prior to any repair."
I'm really disturbed by you not standing by your product!
Regards, Barna Bernard Fekete
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Barna, you need to read the many, many responses to your support ticket more carefully.
YOU HAVE PURCHASED A COUNTERFEIT FAKE CASE OFF OF EBAY.
We're sorry that you fell prey to someone's scam to sell you a fake product as genuine, but that is why we recommend only shopping on our website or through our authorized retailer network. We do not sell the pieces that you're looking for separately and they most likely will not fit since you do not have an authentic case.
Bernard Fekete, GM.
Kolibri Art Studio, Inc.
http://www.kolibriartstudio.com
Ph 310.538.4855 - Fax 310.538.4911
333 E. 157Th Street, Gardena, CA 90248
Unparalelled Quality Fine Art Printing Since 1990 1990
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From: "support@elementcase.com" <support@elementcase.com>
To: bernard@kolibriartstudio.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 8:30 AM
Subject: [EC Support] Thank you for your submission
Thank you for contacting Element Case. Our goal is to respond to all inquiries within 2 business days. However, we are currently experiencing extremely high demand for our products and services, and may take up to 5 business days to respond to your inquiry. We thank you for your patience and understanding. Element Case Customer Support Team.
WITHOUT CONFIRMING THE FACT YOU ARE WRITING I HAVE A FAKE PRODUCT? HM?
You sent me this garbage:
Barna, you need to read the many, many responses to your support ticket more carefully.
YOU HAVE PURCHASED A COUNTERFEIT FAKE CASE OFF OF EBAY.
We're sorry that you fell prey to someone's scam to sell you a fake product as genuine, but that is why we recommend only shopping on our website or through our authorized retailer network. We do not sell the pieces that you're looking for separately and they most likely will not fit since you do not have an authentic case.
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Barna Bernard Fekete
posted toElement Case
2 hours ago
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Customer Service at Element,
You refuse to supply me with a plastic connector (which broke)
[Ticket#308-8955] Broken clear polymer bridge on Sector 5.
As a manufacturer you need to acknowledge that parts do break. You guys need to step up to the plate and carry and make available part to replace broken pieces to your product. I will contact BBB, State attorney and many other consumer protection agencies to prove my point.
Why don't you just say send this up here, we take look, if it is ours, we replace that 50 cent part for $20, I would be happy and not spread the news about horrible after sale support of Element. That is all to it. Nothing travels faster that bad news, remember that! Let me send it up to you and charge me for the replacement. That is all to it!
You should learn from Ray-Ban:
"As a courtesy to our valued Ray-Ban USA customers, we provide repair service for any product not covered or past our warranty period. A repair charge will be assessed depending upon the style of your returned product. We will notify you of any charges and request payment in advance prior to any repair."
I'm really disturbed by you not standing by your product!
Regards, Barna Bernard Fekete
Promote
Element Case
Barna, you need to read the many, many responses to your support ticket more carefully.
YOU HAVE PURCHASED A COUNTERFEIT FAKE CASE OFF OF EBAY.
We're sorry that you fell prey to someone's scam to sell you a fake product as genuine, but that is why we recommend only shopping on our website or through our authorized retailer network. We do not sell the pieces that you're looking for separately and they most likely will not fit since you do not have an authentic case.
Bernard Fekete, GM.
Kolibri Art Studio, Inc.
http://www.kolibriartstudio.com
Ph 310.538.4855 - Fax 310.538.4911
333 E. 157Th Street, Gardena, CA 90248
Unparalelled Quality Fine Art Printing Since 1990 1990
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "support@elementcase.com" <support@elementcase.com>
To: bernard@kolibriartstudio.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 8:30 AM
Subject: [EC Support] Thank you for your submission
Thank you for contacting Element Case. Our goal is to respond to all inquiries within 2 business days. However, we are currently experiencing extremely high demand for our products and services, and may take up to 5 business days to respond to your inquiry. We thank you for your patience and understanding. Element Case Customer Support Team.
Can you post pictures of this break? I'm curious as to where it broke and how it happened.
This.
Not to mention, short of Tekcases and a select few other eBay stores, counterfeits are everywhere. Just because they charge you $150 doesn't guarantee you're getting a legitimate product.
Additionally, for conversation, lets say you (bernardkahuna) do have a legitimate case, you can go through your seller and utilize the ElementCase warranty. ElementCase forces it's resellers / redistributors to have the exact same warranty terms they themselves use. So for conversation, lets say you bought it from "X's eBay Store", if they are legit then you can go through them (not even ElementCase) and get the part / your case replaced via warranty.
I have a serious feeling you've blown this way out of proportion bernardkahuna.
On topic though, ElementCase just released the side grips in clear and black. Just ordered the black grip for my Sector 5 FE. Free shipping too, so an easy spent $5
This.
Not to mention, short of Tekcases and a select few other eBay stores, counterfeits are everywhere. Just because they charge you $150 doesn't guarantee you're getting a legitimate product.
Additionally, for conversation, lets say you (bernardkahuna) do have a legitimate case, you can go through your seller and utilize the ElementCase warranty. ElementCase forces it's resellers / redistributors to have the exact same warranty terms they themselves use. So for conversation, lets say you bought it from "X's eBay Store", if they are legit then you can go through them (not even ElementCase) and get the part / your case replaced via warranty.
I have a serious feeling you've blown this way out of proportion bernardkahuna.
On topic though, ElementCase just released the side grips in clear and black. Just ordered the black grip for my Sector 5 FE. Free shipping too, so an easy spent $5
please do post the picture with the grip on once you had it
am disappointed when they released the grip two days after i bought the attack back plate from them. argh! have to pay for the delivery again
please do post the picture with the grip on once you had it
am disappointed when they released the grip two days after i bought the attack back plate from them. argh! have to pay for the delivery again
Ah you're overseas
Will do though
