so does this mean i can use my mini with the Belkin accessory that lets you dump digital camera pictures into it ? the media reader thing ?
does it have the "import photos" option ?
does it have the "import photos" option ?
stcanard said:I'll tell you the problem I have with people saying they "would never buy online music until it's provided in a lossless format".
You've been buying music in a lossy format for over a decade. The sampling done to make a CD is lossy, and can introduce some awful harmonics. Fortunately it's too subtle for most people to notice.
The TTL circuits that are probably used in your amp / stereo system (unless you have vacuum tubes) are lossy. They are again sampling and reconstituting the music, creating some awful harmonics.
Heck, odds are the amp used when recording the music was digital. Guess what?
It's not a question of "lossy" vs. "lossless". Everything we are sold is lossy. Walk into a music store and buy a CD, it's encoded in a lossy format. That's okay though, because even if it wasn't your amp will re-encode into a lossy format.
The question is how much are you willing to accept, based on the style of music you listen to and how well attuned your ear is to specific harmonics?
~Shard~ said:... And so there's no confusion, I understand where you're coming from.
jxyama said:i think it's a bit misleading to lump the sampling loss or reconstruction loss (two examples you mentioned) with frequency-based compression losses, such as AAC/mp3 encoding.
there are subjective measures on how the frequency-based compression algorithms decide which frequency to discard - based mostly on psycho-acoustic studies.
stcanard said:I'll tell you the problem I have with people saying they "would never buy online music until it's provided in a lossless format".
AidenShaw said:You're right - I should have explicitly said that I consider the losses in a CD to be acceptable (as if there were a real choice in the matter).
jxyama said:clicker sound through headphone is a nice touch for the mini - wanted that since the beginning...
by the way, 3G owners complaining... you don't have to get over anything. if these minute (imo) improvements in mini and 4G but not 3G mean *that* much to you - so much that all the reasons you bought an iPod from apple to begin with go out the window - remember this in a few years and don't bother buying another apple product.
$$$ speaks louder to apple than any complaints you can log at MR...
beatle888 said:3G ipods arent broken jxyama. what would they be protesting, apple not constantly upgrading the features of their old products? sounds like a rebel without a cause, or otherwise known as immaturity.
jxyama said:. yes, CD is "lossy" compared to theoretical perfect music re-production, i guess...
Geetar said:There is no proof that has stood up to a double-blind test to date that will reliably show red Book 44.1 KHz to be lossy in terms of discarded audible material, when combined with upsampling A/D/As that have been common tech for some time now....you could perhaps point to some studies from the last few years that back this contention up..?
iRez said:Apple not updating the 3rd gen iPod is like them not allowing Panther to run on machines sold two years ago because they're not the current machine being sold.
Geetar said:There is no proof that has stood up to a double-blind test to date that will reliably show red Book 44.1 KHz to be lossy in terms of discarded audible material, when combined with upsampling A/D/As that have been common tech for some time now....you could perhaps point to some studies from the last few years that back this contention up..?
pianojoe said:Come over to my recording studio. This one's easy to prove.
pounce said:agreed, and seconded. when you spend all day working on higher quality audio, and then you knock it down to 16 bit for a cd it's a difference. and don't even get me started about how ****** mp3's sound. really it's not hard to hear the difference. no papers are needed, just listen and it's right there.
ps: i am getting an ipod photo for xmas. looking forward to it.
pianojoe said:Come over to my recording studio. This one's easy to prove.
uv23 said:Shuffle is completely useless. Wow, I can randomly listen to 488 songs on my iPod Mini. Great, there's nothing I like hearing more than jarring hard drum & bass followed by ambient then shoegazer. How about a shuffle feature within playlists? That I'd actually use, and use often. Gah.
You sir are a genius! Either that or I'm an idiot. I'm willing to accept either explanation.mfacey said:As far as I know that's already possible! You just start your playlist, then go to settings and switch on Shuffle Songs. That should do the trick. I'm pretty sure I've done that on my friend's 4G.
uv23 said:Shuffle is completely useless. Wow, I can randomly listen to 488 songs on my iPod Mini. Great, there's nothing I like hearing more than jarring hard drum & bass followed by ambient then shoegazer. How about a shuffle feature within playlists? That I'd actually use, and use often. Gah.