who gives a $#!+
it's still going to be utter crap.
still going to have antiquited system layers, causing in a massive overhead.
it's still going to be utter crap.
still going to have antiquited system layers, causing in a massive overhead.
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Windows Longhorn? 3-D?
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one thing nobody else has noticed.
What hunts longhorn......jaguar!!!!
I wonder if microsoft thought of this before they named their OS after a large cow???
What hunts longhorn......jaguar!!!!
I wonder if microsoft thought of this before they named their OS after a large cow???
if this is the new MS OS then jaguar isnt hunting longhorn at all. Longhorn is already dead and being eaten for tea.
For the num-nut user, XP makes things easier (i use a mac), it is a whole lot friendlier in keeping the user out of places where they shouldn't be and helps them with the task pane in all explorer windows.
For experienced users, they can switch it off and go back to the old ways of doing things. But experienced users know where to look to turn the crap off.
Those who can, will. Thos that can't, wont.
For the num-nut user, XP makes things easier (i use a mac), it is a whole lot friendlier in keeping the user out of places where they shouldn't be and helps them with the task pane in all explorer windows.
For experienced users, they can switch it off and go back to the old ways of doing things. But experienced users know where to look to turn the crap off.
Those who can, will. Thos that can't, wont.
It's not a cow. It's named after a place at the base of the mountain called Whistler (Windows XP) in British Columbia not far from Microsoft's campus.Originally posted by smegdude
one thing nobody else has noticed.
What hunts longhorn......jaguar!!!!
I wonder if microsoft thought of this before they named their OS after a large cow???
What overhead? Mac OS X taxes processors a lot. From what I've seen, Longhorn is just as fast as Windows XP on a moderate computer.
And how is it still going to be utter crap? You haven't used it.
Windows Longhorn's dock/sidebar isn't even turned on by default. It's far more customizable than the Mac OS X dock.
Besides, it's a friggin Alpha. We've got a plenty while before it's officially released.
Even the pinstripes...
Wow, they even took the OS X Pinstripes. Look at the "display properties" window.
Wow, they even took the OS X Pinstripes. Look at the "display properties" window.
Mac OS X does not "tax" processors at all! Where'd you get that from?
That's the entire point! Windows XP is incredibly bloated and has a massive overhead. As much as M$ like to pretend that there's not, there is in fact still a DOS system layer in there. M$ has got tons of layers in there... What happens when one gets busy? You wait.
That's why the Macs don't look so incredibly slow compared to machines running Windows -- Windows is so damn inefficient. You throw Linux on a PC and wow. Goodbye OS X.
You make that assumption based on what? I have actually used it FYI.
um... who makes their decision as to what OS to use based on what the fricking sidebar or dock is like???
The Mac OS X DP's were *far* more promising than this thing is. And as we all know, M$'s actual releases are *so different* to their alphas
Apple really need to start advertising OS X on TV, Show off the interface, the transitions, playing quicktime movies in the dock and stuff like that.
M$ are just going to beat them to it otherwise, look at all the ads for XP that show people stuff we've had in OS 9 already.
It's stupid how apple are more focused on a petty "windows sucks!" type campaign (in the US at least) when they've got that beautiful OS to show off to the world and it's enough to draw new people into buying a mac just for user experience.
M$ are just going to beat them to it otherwise, look at all the ads for XP that show people stuff we've had in OS 9 already.
It's stupid how apple are more focused on a petty "windows sucks!" type campaign (in the US at least) when they've got that beautiful OS to show off to the world and it's enough to draw new people into buying a mac just for user experience.
And the winner of the biggest M$ rip off Apple in the history of history goes to...
This is insane. M$ has ripped off Apple before, but this is just going too far.
http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/lh_alpha_043.gif
This is the new Plex theme, integrated into Longhorn.
This is insane. M$ has ripped off Apple before, but this is just going too far.
http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/lh_alpha_043.gif
This is the new Plex theme, integrated into Longhorn.
Oh, indeed it does tax the processors a lot! I'm not saying just the PowerPC G4, but also the GPU, the memory controller, etc. because Mac OS X is so damn big and the GUI is so bloated so it requires a gigahertz G4 and 2GB RAM to run Mac OS X's GUI as fast as Windows XP's on a 500 MHz PIII.
Tell me again, WHAT massive overhead? Mac OS X has an incredibly slow microkernel, a slow UNIX, a slow processor. DOS doesn't exist on NT at all, just a "command line" (cmd.exe) window that people rarely run and programs rarely require. Yes, Microsoft's OS has a lot of layers, but so does Mac OS X. In fact, a PII 300 MHz or so would run Windows XP just fine, let's see, I'd need a 1 GHz G4 to run OS X satisfactorily. I've overflowed my Windows XP available RAM (I have 512MB, and have hit nearly 1GB with so many programs open and yet it's responsive, never had to wait because my processor is so much faster than the G4s. I'd be lucky to get that kind of performance out of Mac OS X on a "fast" 1 GHz. Just my experience.
Yeah, when I interact with a Mac it's all slow thanks to the PowerPC G4's status plus Mac OS X's overheads and so on, yet I'm much more productive on a PC (for now).
And Linux, as a desktop OS, haha, you've got to be kidding me. It's not going there anytime soon. Stick with Linux for servers.
So you've used Longhorn? Where did you get it from? On what hardware did you install it on? etc.
If their dock proves to be more useful than a competitors, then that's the benefit and my money is to that company who makes more useful products. PC's have been cheaper for me, more productive for me, faster, and provide the same level, if not more, of "usability."
Yeah, because they've gone so far in the development cycle. When Windows XP was in alpha, it wasn't that much different from Windows 2000. But what do we have now? A different beast. That's a good thing. In fact, if I recall correctly, Mac OS X 10.0 and 10.1 did not have a GUI for a firewall, it was introduced in 10.2. Yet Windows XP had that in late 2001.The Mac OS X DP's were *far* more promising than this thing is. And as we all know, M$'s actual releases are *so different* to their alphas
Btw, stike, in the About Windows for Windows Longhorn, it says version 2003. Who knows. It might be late 2003. No one knows yet what the final release date will be. 2005 is just an old date that the original NT 6.0 was scheduled for, but since they dropped 5.2 and moving straight to 6.0. It could be earlier.
Now back to kicking Motorola's ass for not producing faster G4s and waiting for the next Mac OS X version as it should be much more refined in speed and usability.
Some people just have higher expectations, some have lower expectations.
Can you say Quartz and Extreme?!!
Hmmm... this is old hat now, at least for us Mac folk! I love it when Mac OS X is 3 years ahead of Windows XP and anything else Microsoft tries to come up with that others have been there, done that, and got the teeshirt!
Hmmm... this is old hat now, at least for us Mac folk! I love it when Mac OS X is 3 years ahead of Windows XP and anything else Microsoft tries to come up with that others have been there, done that, and got the teeshirt!
They could make it pink, and send it out with photos of Bill Gates in drag for all I care. It will always carry MS anti-privacy ideas with it, not to mention they will be bringing along Palladium technology with it. If you do not know what Palladium is, I suggest you look it up and so good bye to any form of privacy you think you have on your PC.
If it was just an anti piracy measure it would not be that big of a deal, its the exta "innovative features" that you get along with it when combined with windows that should be looked into.
But im sure the public will jump all over it, "Wow new version of Windows is out and it has Palladium Technology!!!!! I need that, whatever it is"
i could not even make it through point 4 of the palladium faq before my brain hemmoraged and my eyes began to bleed. i never thought that someone might actually read 1984 and think, "hey, that's a good idea". do you think that people will actually buy into this technology? i'm sure that there are those out there who think, "improved security, it must be good!".
Re: Re: Re: Windows Longhorn? 3-D?
Well file systems are not that easily designed. As far as SQL server is concerned..well infact the real concern is about it's scalability. It sure as a hell does not scale well.
Any body notice in the screen shot above how MS$ seems to have stolen the idea of virtual desktops from Unix/Linux UI's?
IMHO virtual desktops are a very versitile thing and apple should add it to OS X in the next release itself if possible.
Also when I was using Linux some years back there used to be a feature wherein you could be logged in as one user but you press alt+f1/f2/f3 and you would get a login prompt to login as a who new user. I think this too is a useful feature and should be added to OS X
Well file systems are not that easily designed. As far as SQL server is concerned..well infact the real concern is about it's scalability. It sure as a hell does not scale well.
Any body notice in the screen shot above how MS$ seems to have stolen the idea of virtual desktops from Unix/Linux UI's?
IMHO virtual desktops are a very versitile thing and apple should add it to OS X in the next release itself if possible.
Also when I was using Linux some years back there used to be a feature wherein you could be logged in as one user but you press alt+f1/f2/f3 and you would get a login prompt to login as a who new user. I think this too is a useful feature and should be added to OS X