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Dual 2.5GHz PowerMacs Shipping
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wdlove said:
I too was a member without any assets (except to download PDF and the occasional QuickTime presentation).
Saw the banner ads for Tiger, and heard that they were offering the coveted Hardware Purchase Platform out of the box (worth more than the $500 USD, baby). So now I'm a developer. I do hope to make good on the promise. I'm really keen to develop some Dashboard Widgets for 10.4+
But I don't think they have a means of auditing who has written a program and who hasn't.
Go for it. It's worth it!
Grebo
New PowerMac G5?
Hello here,
I plan to buy two new PowerMac G5 (top model) but I am worried about a possible release of a new upgraded one... any idea about this? I bought a G4 in 2002 and after only one month a new model was released! I'd like to not repeat the same experience...
Thank you in advance for any thought.
Fab.
Hello here,
I plan to buy two new PowerMac G5 (top model) but I am worried about a possible release of a new upgraded one... any idea about this? I bought a G4 in 2002 and after only one month a new model was released! I'd like to not repeat the same experience...
Thank you in advance for any thought.
Fab.
The earliest I think you'll see a Powermac upgrade will be in June again, and that means September if your lucky - so if you need the top Mac, get it, it's not like you'll be playing cathup with anything. 
You should purchase what you need when you have a need. Since you are getting the top line 2.5 GHz, you will still feel that you have the best. Beside delivery will be a lot quicker if you order now. You will have a couple of months of enjoyment before you could even order something else.
never ending cycle
You should buy now. This is a cycle that can have you using a dated mac for years - it never ends. be an early adopter and get the most out of a model - but wait six months it is a gamble. MEasure the potential gains of two months with current model or the potential 'potential' if you wait 2, 4 or 6 months for new new model. Not to mention Apple's notorious for release now and get in three months your order....
I played this game for 4 years.... I LOVE MY 2.5!
just my 2c
You should buy now. This is a cycle that can have you using a dated mac for years - it never ends. be an early adopter and get the most out of a model - but wait six months it is a gamble. MEasure the potential gains of two months with current model or the potential 'potential' if you wait 2, 4 or 6 months for new new model. Not to mention Apple's notorious for release now and get in three months your order....
I played this game for 4 years.... I LOVE MY 2.5!
just my 2c
fabrizio said:
iriejedi said:
Q: Do you fold on your 2.5? Do you find that the fan revs much more than previous machine while folding?
I too love my machine (and would probably recommend it to certain colleagues), but I can't say that I think the thermal issues have been fully resolved. The dual 2 reacts better (and only a wee bit slower) when put through the same tasks. Maybe this goes without saying, but is surprising for me to see the big difference in terms of fan time, CPU temp, etc and the relatively small difference in terms of performance.
Has anyone noticed that Apple is now showing same business day shipping for all powermacs including the 2.5?
Maybe this is a sign that IBM in ready for 3ghz at WWDC.
Maybe this is a sign that IBM in ready for 3ghz at WWDC.
iriejedi said:
I am not in a hurry, so I can wait 1-2 months... but actually six months starting today would be too much... I really don't know what to do. I don't want to make the same error I made three years ago: just bought a G4, after one month a new model REALLY faster came out... (I bought the last QuickSilver model DUAL 1Ghz, then the new mirrored doors one was released after one month). And actually that computer was much faster than the previous one.
Do you think the next release will be definitively "advanced" than the current one or simply a little upgrade such as a few Mhz more? For "advanced" I mean: a major frontbus upgrade, cache and RAM?
I have already read all the posts here, but I'd like to know more thoughts about this issue...
Thank you folks!
Fab.
fabrizio said:
I think most people would agree that we won't see Dual Core Chips in the next Power Mac revision. Dual Core probably won't be ready to ship in signifigant quatities until the ending of the year. I am guessing the Power Mac will be updated again in June at WWDC or at most a month before that. The next revision will probably sport a 3Ghz Single Cored G5 variant of the 970FX. Even at 3Ghz it is only a 20% bump in speed from the 2.5Ghz Machines shipping now which may in realworld performace perform only 10-15% faster. Remember that even though the 2.5Ghz 970FX was a 25% increase over the original 2Ghz 970 there is actually only a 14-25% increase in real world Application speed. However the fabled 970GX is said to have double the L2 cache to 1MB and an improved memory controller that might get us an actual 20%-30% real world speed improvement over the current 2.5Ghz 970FX.
Dual Core will Come this year though just not in time for the next PowerMac Update as most sources seem to indicate that it would not be available in a Shipping machine untill the last Calendar quarter of the year. Even then Dual Core Chips may only ship in Xserves or may only be available on the highest end PowerMacs and who knows at what price. Dual Core won't Completely set itself apart from where we are today until they start shipping Dual Processor Dual core chips and then even then it might be a wash if Single Cored Dual Proccessor Machines can run at higher Clock speeds.
So the bottom line is to buy now as the next revision is probably 4-6 months away from introduction not to mention ship wait times after announcement. It most likely will be an incremental update even if it uses the 970GX. Other than the Processors expect larger standard Hardrives and better stock video cards. 160GB and 250GB may become standard over the current 80GB& 160GB standards. Stock Video Cards would be better but not a whole lot better as I doubt Apple would use the 6800 or X800 series Cards or even the 9800 as they are still to expensive to be used as a stock video card. I am guessing they may use the Geforce 6200-6600 or Radeon X300-X700 variants as a stock Video Card. Although those cards are not available for the Mac now I think they will eventually because Apple would be crazy to still be Shipping 5200Ultras and 9600 as a stock card after the next update.
RAM increases would be nice perhaps they would bump the whole PowerMac line to include 512MB stock and if we are lucky they may even make 1GB standard on the Highest end model.
Superdrive must deffinitely be updated as well to a 16X Dual Layer Capable drive.
Thank you Little Endian for your kind reply and information.
Yes, I agree with you about a new revision, I don't think it will be released with the next upgrade.
I think I will buy now. I will let you know my final move.
Thank you again!
Sincerely,
Fab.
Yes, I agree with you about a new revision, I don't think it will be released with the next upgrade.
I think I will buy now. I will let you know my final move.
Thank you again!
Sincerely,
Fab.
daveway00 said:
That's definitely a good sign. But I'd imagine that after the initial rush, demand could have decreased. Secondly, some potential buyers might already be waiting for the next revision. As for the 3 GHz, I heard some rumours, the next revision would top out at 2.8 GHz. It would be great to see a 3 GHz PM in 2005, though.
zwida said:
I seem to be in a similar boat as Fabrizio...a Dual 1G MDD owner -except I've had nothing but trouble w/ my box....( I'm on my 2nd motherboard, 3rd superdrive...still- the thing reeks of LEMON!) ...Anyhow - I've got to get some work done- and I'm about to plop for a G5...
My question is: Is it true what Zwida says in his post regarding the difference between a Dual2 and a Dual 2.5?... I mostly run MOTU Digital Performer and Logic...And my needs with those apps are pretty conservative...don't really do much in the way of video...
After years of happy Mac-ing - I'm not sure my soul could take another "windtunnel" experience.....
Thanks!
I actually cancelled my G5 2.5 order just before Christmas on the advice from a friend who works on the Apple advertising account here in the UK. He was spot in about the new ATI card which was justification enough as I can't afford to lose PCI slots.
Whilst he is kept in the dark on specific specs, an updated G5 will be emerging 'shortly'.
If you can wait till then do so. I'm hoping that certianly the top end Powermac will bring realworld performance increases with an increased cache.
Also, the G5 2.5 is quickly approaching its 1st Birthday....a very long time in the computer market.
Of course, if you need one now for work then just get one. I'm sure eventually those with dual 3GHZ machines will be wishing they held out for the Quad processor machines at the back end of this year....If it happens.
Best
J
Whilst he is kept in the dark on specific specs, an updated G5 will be emerging 'shortly'.
If you can wait till then do so. I'm hoping that certianly the top end Powermac will bring realworld performance increases with an increased cache.
Also, the G5 2.5 is quickly approaching its 1st Birthday....a very long time in the computer market.
Of course, if you need one now for work then just get one. I'm sure eventually those with dual 3GHZ machines will be wishing they held out for the Quad processor machines at the back end of this year....If it happens.
Best
J
Little Endian said:
If we get Rev. C in June, the wait time is almost a year. Then is your prediction of a dual core in the last quarter of '05 is correct that would only be six months. If so that could mean good news of Apple going back to 6 month updates.
It is disappointing about the amount of upgrade with are getting. They certainly need to add something more like memory.
It's way overdue for a new thread folks...please start a new discussion or discussions. Thanks
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